Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hub.org!news.thuntek.net!not-for-mail From: "Hollyanne" Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: New to this group and curious. Date: 21 Mar 1998 08:51:45 GMT Organization: Thunder Network Technologies, Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> Reply-To: "Hollyanne" NNTP-Posting-Host: abq-041.thuntek.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Well, to be honest I guess I am more looking for advice. Since I was a small child I had not felt "right." Being more interested in sewing, cooking, and such than I was in hunting, fishing (though I do like to fish), and other "male" pastimes, I realized that something was different about me. Then in the third grade my mom and my best friends older sister decided to dress me up as a little girl for halloween and I loved every minute of it (though I was a bit embarrassed.) When I went to school on halloween day my teacher thought I was a new student, not recognizing me at all, and while trick or treating that night many people asked me what I was dressed up as, themselves not realizing that I was actually male. Shortly after that halloween I began to pray (silly, but at 8 years old what do you expect) that I may wake up as a girl, instead of a boy. I have always felt more at ease with women than men (though I find men as appealing sexually as I do women) and can talk to them more readily. Many of my female friends have commented that I am not the "typical male" and my girlfriend (hopefully soon to be wife) actually enjoys the fact that I am more comfortable in a more female role sometimes ( I do all the cooking - I adore cooking.) Now, I am almost 30 (and looking more and more like my mother everyday) and I don't know where I am going or how I am going to get there. I was hoping that people here may be able to give me some advice, or at least some words of encouragement (and even criticism can be helpful.) Thank you. HollyAnne ###### Message-ID: <3513D20E.19838341@bga.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:43:26 -0600 From: Julie Haugh Organization: Girls "R" Good X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: apm7-208.realtime.net Lines: 17 Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.128.214!feed1.realtime.net!apm7-208.realtime.net Hollyanne wrote: > Now, I am almost 30 (and looking more and more like my mother everyday) and > I don't know where I am going or how I am going to get there. I was hoping > that people here may be able to give me some advice, or at least some words > of encouragement (and even criticism can be helpful.) Well, you've come to the right place to ask =that= question. Now, where would you =like= to go? We have cross-dressers of various types, transgenderists, transsexuals, and a few supportive non-transpeople. So pull up a chair, plonk yourself down and chat away. -- Julianne Frances Haugh Life is either a daring adventure Mail: jfh AT bga.com or nothing at all. -- Helen Keller ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.metronet.de!news.metronet.de!not-for-mail From: "Amy" Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:47:02 +0100 Organization: none Lines: 39 Message-ID: <6f1bd0$3d5$3@news.metronet.de> References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> NNTP-Posting-Host: muenchen2.pop.metronet.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hi. although I usually ask questions in here, I feel, like I should participate on the other side,too. >Well, to be honest I guess I am more looking for advice. Problem with all that kind of questions is, nobody really can tell you, what is the thing. Everybody has to find out, what's inside him and how to deal with it. But it's great to talk to others and very informative, too It seems, you have a good and happy life and no serious problems. For me it looks like you have a nice and friendly female side, like every man has. (Kind of a 'ying and yang') That's a great thing and as long as it doesn't give you any trouble, enjoy the great unity of your 'little persons' in yourself. Many men seem to be not the 'typical man' and that's great, because if we only had stereotypical men, we'd be in constant trouble... I always wished to get a 'girl-costume' for our equivalent for halloween when I was young. Never happened until now and I never dared asking for it. Ever notived, that most cooks are men? Think about it. >I don't know where I am going or how I am going to get there. I guess, that depends on who you are, what you want and where you're coming from. If you want to learn more about your 'soft side', do so. If you want to express feminity, do so. There's plenty of information on the internet about every shade of it and many people in this NG will be willing to help you in any ways. Bye Amy ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news.linkline.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.65.142!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!news@tiac.net From: "Nicole Hamilton" Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. Date: 22 Mar 1998 04:51:32 GMT Organization: Hamilton Laboratories Lines: 17 Message-ID: <01bd554e$4ad64b90$e9953ccf@toshiba> References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> NNTP-Posting-Host: p8.ts1.marlb.ma.tiac.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hollyanne wrote in article <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes>... > Since I was a small child I had not felt "right." ... > ...in the third grade ... I began to pray (silly, but at 8 years old > what do you expect) that I may wake up as a girl, instead of a boy. What you're describing is a classic transsexual experience. Get a copy of _True Selves: Understanding Transsexualism for Families, Friends, Coworkers and Helping Professionals_ by Mildred L. Brown and Chloe Ann Rounsley, 1996, Jossey-Bass, ISBN 0-7879-0271-3. This is a marvelous, very sensitive book that will help you sort out what you're feeling. Plan to read it in a one long sitting; you will, whether you plan to or not. Have a box of Kleenex handy. For me, each page was memory and I cried at every one. After you've read _True Selves_, I think things will be much clearer. --Nicki Hamilton ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!cosy.sbg.ac.at!wuff.mayn.de!news.idt.net!nntp.abs.net!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.state.mn.us!news1.mr.net!news.mr.net!not-for-mail From: "Amy Pratt" Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:59:18 -0600 Organization: [poster's organization not specified] Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6f52dk$55m$1@news3.mr.net> References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> <01bd554e$4ad64b90$e9953ccf@toshiba> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.10.26.103 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Have a box of >Kleenex handy. For me, each page was memory and I cried at every one. > >After you've read _True Selves_, I think things will be much clearer. > >--Nicki Hamilton No doubt about that. A friend gave me that book and I did the same thing. Never have I read a book that so completely described me. I started crying early and didn't stop til I finished the book later that day. Amy Pratt ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!sackheads.org!ibm.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!supernews.xara.net!xara.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!newsfeed.wli.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: freedomtodream@hotmail.com Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:18:38 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6f8m86$5i5$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> <01bd554e$4ad64b90$e9953ccf@toshiba> <6f52dk$55m$1@news3.mr.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.71.20.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Mar 24 16:18:38 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) In article <6f52dk$55m$1@news3.mr.net>, "Amy Pratt" wrote: > > > Have a box of > >Kleenex handy. For me, each page was memory and I cried at every one. > > > >After you've read _True Selves_, I think things will be much clearer. > > > >--Nicki Hamilton > > No doubt about that. A friend gave me that book and I did the same thing. > Never have I read a book that so completely described me. I started crying > early and didn't stop til I finished the book later that day. > > Amy Pratt It wasn't until reading 'True Selves' that I actually believed I was not alone in this! Part of me knew that all the other stories were fakes or something but I could have written most of 'True Selves' myself. Sarah -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!sackheads.org!ibm.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!198.138.0.5!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsreader.jvnc.net!jordana From: jordana@m-net.arbornet.org (Jordana) Newsgroups: soc.support.transgendered Subject: Re: New to this group and curious. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:33:13 -0500 Organization: Verio Northeast Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.107.29.168 X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4 In article <01bd54a5$a1f88e00$293442cf@hermes>, "Hollyanne" wrote: > Well, to be honest I guess I am more looking for advice. > > Since I was a small child I had not felt "right." Being more interested in > sewing, cooking, and such than I was in hunting, fishing (though I do like > to fish), and other "male" pastimes, I realized that something was > different about me. This sounds all too familiar. > Then in the third grade my mom and my best friends > older sister decided to dress me up as a little girl for halloween and I > loved every minute of it (though I was a bit embarrassed.) When I went to > school on halloween day my teacher thought I was a new student, not > recognizing me at all, and while trick or treating that night many people > asked me what I was dressed up as, themselves not realizing that I was > actually male. > Consider yourself VERY lucky. I wanted to do that and I had seen a couple other boys in my class go to school as girls for halloween the year before so I thought I'd ask my mom if I could be a girl or a witch for Halloween the next year and I was shamed by her and told that boy's shouldn't want to be such things and that I should never ask her again. My dad also made fun of me. You don't know how lucky you were. > Shortly after that halloween I began to pray (silly, but at 8 years old > what do you expect) that I may wake up as a girl, instead of a boy. I did this too when I was 7 years old. It never worked of course...I did however get a rather thin, soft, curvy and fairly hairless body (just wish I had larger hips) and a face with very fine features. > I have > always felt more at ease with women than men (though I find men as > appealing sexually as I do women) and can talk to them more readily. Many > of my female friends have commented that I am not the "typical male" and my > girlfriend (hopefully soon to be wife) actually enjoys the fact that I am > more comfortable in a more female role sometimes ( I do all the cooking - I > adore cooking.) Are you sure we aren't twins seperated at birth? My girlfriend is with me BECAUSE she doesn't see me as a guy or the "typical male". She said she thinks I'm a "male lesbian". I tend to agree. > > Now, I am almost 30 (and looking more and more like my mother everyday) I guess we aren't twins, I'm 26. > and > I don't know where I am going or how I am going to get there. Neither do I. I have resolved that this is to be "my year" to be honest with myself and to take steps to living the way I want. Luckily, I have a very supportive girlfriend. I think I may actually start living as a woman this year. > I was hoping that people here may be able to give me some advice, or at least some words > of encouragement (and even criticism can be helpful.) Me too though I suppose I should post my own intro here. > > Thank you. > > HollyAnne Jo