From: Lizard Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:38:13 -0700 Organization: Ferengi Academy of Business Ethics Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-379.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12954 Steve Miller wrote: > > SD Anderson wrote: > > << I believe that "The National Enquirer" is the best selling newspaper. >> > > Shall we start comparing RPGs to cars while we're at it? > Sure. D&D:The old hand-me-down you started driving in. It was pretty cool when it first rolled off the assembly line, but now it's a bit clunky and old, though there's a lot of nostaliga factor and sometimes you're tempted to take it out for a spin just one more time. The manufacturer promises to take the same basic frame and put an all-new engine it. GURPS:This vehicle can drive, fly, float, or travel underwater. Unfortunately, it's not as good at any of these as an actual car, plane, boat, or sub, but it offers a lot of flexibility. One warning -- any accident is likely to be fatal. FUDGE:Here's a pile of wheels, pistons, gears, pipes, and metal. Build a car. Or a plane. Or a tank. We don't care. Palladium:Starting the blueprints for the D&D car, the Palladium has a lot more bells and whistles. It has a very odd drivers side setup, though, so it's favored mostly by very small people with high pitched voices. ("We represent the lollipop guild...") ###### From: Blackberry Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Date: 21 Jul 2000 12:59:51 -0700 Organization: Europa.com Lines: 45 Message-ID: <8laa3n$7mb@edrn.newsguy.com> References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-382.newsdawg.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!edrn Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12958 In article <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com>, Lizard says... > >Steve Miller wrote: >> >> SD Anderson wrote: >> >><< I believe that "The National Enquirer" is the best selling newspaper. >> >> >> Shall we start comparing RPGs to cars while we're at it? >> >Sure. > >D&D:The old hand-me-down you started driving in. It was pretty cool when >it first rolled off the assembly line, but now it's a bit clunky and >old, though there's a lot of nostaliga factor and sometimes you're >tempted to take it out for a spin just one more time. The manufacturer >promises to take the same basic frame and put an all-new engine it. > >GURPS:This vehicle can drive, fly, float, or travel underwater. >Unfortunately, it's not as good at any of these as an actual car, plane, >boat, or sub, but it offers a lot of flexibility. One warning -- any >accident is likely to be fatal. > >FUDGE:Here's a pile of wheels, pistons, gears, pipes, and metal. Build a >car. Or a plane. Or a tank. We don't care. > >Palladium:Starting the blueprints for the D&D car, the Palladium has a >lot more bells and whistles. It has a very odd drivers side setup, >though, so it's favored mostly by very small people with high pitched >voices. ("We represent the lollipop guild...") Rolemaster: It's huge! This thing even dwarfs the Ford Excursion and the Hummer. In actuality, once you sit down and get used to all the dials, buttons, switches, levers, and pedals, you realize that they all work the same way. Just don't run over a cat or your tires will bleed (air) to death. Aftermath!: It's not pretty, it's not fun to drive, but it's a real 4WD workhorse. You can hop in and start going, but there's a 30-step flowchart to shift gears. -------------------- "It's enough to make you wonder sometimes if you're on the right planet." -- Frankie Goes to Hollywood Brian -- lepus@europa.com -- http://www.europa.com/~lepus ###### From: bokman7757@aol.com (Bokman7757) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 22 Jul 2000 01:49:00 GMT References: <8laa3n$7mb@edrn.newsguy.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000721214900.23656.00000297@ng-cj1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12967 << >D&D:The old hand-me-down you started driving in. It was pretty cool when >it first rolled off the assembly line, but now it's a bit clunky and >old, though there's a lot of nostaliga factor and sometimes you're >tempted to take it out for a spin just one more time. The manufacturer >promises to take the same basic frame and put an all-new engine it. > >GURPS:This vehicle can drive, fly, float, or travel underwater. >Unfortunately, it's not as good at any of these as an actual car, plane, >boat, or sub, but it offers a lot of flexibility. One warning -- any >accident is likely to be fatal. etc. >> The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen: We're still not sure whether this is a car or rather some kind of hovercraft. Paranoia: Knowledge of the owner's manual is treason. This car always behaves according to its specifications, except when it doesn't. ###### From: Scott Taylor Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha References: <8laa3n$7mb@edrn.newsguy.com> <20000721214900.23656.00000297@ng-cj1.aol.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) Message-ID: Lines: 23 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:40:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.157.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rochester.rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.nyroc.rr.com 964233644 204.210.157.190 (Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:40:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:40:44 EDT Organization: Time Warner Road Runner - Rochester NY Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!24.92.226.72!cyclone-0.nyroc.rr.com!typhoon.nyroc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12977 In article <20000721214900.23656.00000297@ng-cj1.aol.com>, bokman7757@aol.com (Bokman7757) wrote: > << >D&D:The old hand-me-down you started driving in. It was pretty cool > when > >it first rolled off the assembly line, but now it's a bit clunky and > >old, though there's a lot of nostaliga factor and sometimes you're > >tempted to take it out for a spin just one more time. The manufacturer > >promises to take the same basic frame and put an all-new engine it. > > > >GURPS:This vehicle can drive, fly, float, or travel underwater. > >Unfortunately, it's not as good at any of these as an actual car, plane, > >boat, or sub, but it offers a lot of flexibility. One warning -- any > >accident is likely to be fatal. > > etc. >> > > The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen: We're still not sure > whether > this is a car or rather some kind of hovercraft. And why there are so many eels in the boot is a question only the Baron himself (or possibly James Wallis) could answer.... ###### Message-ID: <39796FD3.C3744CE1@silcom.com> From: Eric Tolle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha References: <8laa3n$7mb@edrn.newsguy.com> <20000721214900.23656.00000297@ng-cj1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:56:35 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.71.218.172 X-Complaints-To: abuse@avtel.com X-Trace: newsfeed.avtel.net 964259949 207.71.218.172 (Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:59:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:59:09 PDT Organization: None X-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:59:10 PDT (newsfeed.avtel.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news-feeder.wcg.net!WCG!newsfeed.avtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12950 Bokman7757 wrote: > > Paranoia: Knowledge of the owner's manual is treason. This car always behaves > according to its specifications, except when it doesn't. Please note: stating that this car does not perform according to specifications is treasonous. Observing this car not performing according to specifications is treasonous. Any injuries or fatalities sustained when this car is operating within specifications are treasonous. All drivers of this car are satisfied customers. unsatisfied customers are treasonous. Thank you citizen and have a nice day... -- Eric Tolle schaduw@silcom.com People tend to underestimate the impact of scientific progress. Why just fifty years ago, only a few people had even heard of DNA, and now everybody who is somebody uses it! ###### From: bokman7757@aol.com (Bokman7757) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 22 Jul 2000 16:31:30 GMT References: <39796FD3.C3744CE1@silcom.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000722123130.16069.00000237@ng-fx1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.csl-gmbh.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.129!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:12997 WORLD OF SYNNIBAR: Any deviation from proper operation of this automobile can cause the trip to be rendered null and void and the car to return to its point of origin. If this is challenged by the driver, the tires inflate to 2 times their proper size. SENZAR: An SUV. ###### Message-ID: <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> From: Eric Tolle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:33:38 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.71.218.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@avtel.com X-Trace: newsfeed.avtel.net 964312329 207.71.218.57 (Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:32:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:32:09 PDT Organization: None X-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:32:10 PDT (newsfeed.avtel.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.avtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13016 Lizard wrote: > > Steve Miller wrote: > > > > SD Anderson wrote: > > > > << I believe that "The National Enquirer" is the best selling newspaper. >> > > > > Shall we start comparing RPGs to cars while we're at it? > > > Sure. > > D&D:The old hand-me-down you started driving in. It was pretty cool when > it first rolled off the assembly line, but now it's a bit clunky and > old, though there's a lot of nostaliga factor and sometimes you're > tempted to take it out for a spin just one more time. The manufacturer > promises to take the same basic frame and put an all-new engine it. > > GURPS:This vehicle can drive, fly, float, or travel underwater. > Unfortunately, it's not as good at any of these as an actual car, plane, > boat, or sub, but it offers a lot of flexibility. One warning -- any > accident is likely to be fatal. > > FUDGE:Here's a pile of wheels, pistons, gears, pipes, and metal. Build a > car. Or a plane. Or a tank. We don't care. > > Palladium:Starting the blueprints for the D&D car, the Palladium has a > lot more bells and whistles. It has a very odd drivers side setup, > though, so it's favored mostly by very small people with high pitched > voices. ("We represent the lollipop guild...") Big Eyes Small Mouth: This is the best damn car on the road, and extremely cheap. Of course if you want air conditioning, you have to buy it separately. If you want power windows, you have to buy them separately too. If you want a transmission, you have to buy _that_ separately... -- Eric Tolle schaduw@silcom.com People tend to underestimate the impact of scientific progress. Why just fifty years ago, only a few people had even heard of DNA, and now everybody who is somebody uses it! ###### From: "Sidhain" Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 11 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 02:53:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.133.92.137 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 964320783 206.133.92.137 (Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:53:03 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:53:03 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13025 > Big Eyes Small Mouth: This is the best damn car on the road, and > extremely cheap. Of course if you want air conditioning, you have > to buy it separately. If you want power windows, you have to buy > them separately too. If you want a transmission, you have to buy > _that_ separately... But rumors exist that soon a newer car from the makers of BESM will roll off the assembly line, called a "2 Edition" with all the most preffered parts in one book--its a little more expensive but you get it all... ###### From: myridian@aol.com (Myridian) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 23 Jul 2000 03:12:58 GMT References: <20000721214900.23656.00000297@ng-cj1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000722231258.19633.00000146@ng-cp1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeedZ.netscum.dQ!netscum.int!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13037 Alternity: Unusual intrumentation, but responsive and handles well. Unfortunately the buying public hated the company and/ or were scared by the design, so the company scrapped it in favor of redeisigning the wheel ( with a brand new Paintjob!) ###### Message-ID: <397A716B.A5CA9DEC@silcom.com> From: Eric Tolle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:15:39 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.71.218.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@avtel.com X-Trace: newsfeed.avtel.net 964325645 207.71.218.57 (Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:14:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:14:05 PDT Organization: None X-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:14:05 PDT (newsfeed.avtel.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.avtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13018 Sidhain wrote: > > > Big Eyes Small Mouth: This is the best damn car on the road, and > > extremely cheap. Of course if you want air conditioning, you have > > to buy it separately. If you want power windows, you have to buy > > them separately too. If you want a transmission, you have to buy > > _that_ separately... > > But rumors exist that soon a newer car from the makers of BESM will roll off the assembly line, > called a "2 Edition" with all the most preffered parts in one book--its a little more expensive > but you get it all... Which means of course that BESM will issue a recall for all the old cars and replace them with the new ones free of charge, right? Right? Hello? -- Eric Tolle schaduw@silcom.com People tend to underestimate the impact of scientific progress. Why just fifty years ago, only a few people had even heard of DNA, and now everybody who is somebody uses it! ###### From: thantos@chancel.org (Alexander Williams) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:01:38 GMT Organization: Wyvern Enterprises/Palantir Heavy Industries Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> <397A716B.A5CA9DEC@silcom.com> Reply-To: thantos@gw.total-web.net X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.7 (UNIX) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feeder.qis.net!sn-xit-01!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!thantos Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13048 On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:15:39 -0700, Eric Tolle wrote: >Which means of course that BESM will issue a recall for all the old >cars and replace them with the new ones free of charge, right? >Right? Hello? Immediately after Ford recalls all 1999 cars sold without AC and replaces them with 2000 models with AC, soley because they built them. Reducido ad absurdiam. -- Alexander Williams (thantos@gw.total-web.net) | In the End, "I think sex is better than logic, | Oblivion but I can't prove it." | Always http://www.chancel.org | Wins ###### Message-ID: <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com> From: Eric Tolle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> <397A716B.A5CA9DEC@silcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:33:16 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.71.222.236 X-Complaints-To: abuse@avtel.com X-Trace: newsfeed.avtel.net 964373484 207.71.222.236 (Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:31:24 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:31:24 PDT Organization: None X-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:31:25 PDT (newsfeed.avtel.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.avtel.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13017 Alexander Williams wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:15:39 -0700, Eric Tolle > wrote: > > >Which means of course that BESM will issue a recall for all the old > >cars and replace them with the new ones free of charge, right? > >Right? Hello? > > Immediately after Ford recalls all 1999 cars sold without AC and > replaces them with 2000 models with AC, soley because they built them. Though a recall of all the ones they sold without a transmission would be nice. -- Eric Tolle schaduw@silcom.com People tend to underestimate the impact of scientific progress. Why just fifty years ago, only a few people had even heard of DNA, and now everybody who is somebody uses it! ###### Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha From: silver+news@phoenyx.net (Karen J. Cravens) References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> <397A716B.A5CA9DEC@silcom.com> <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com> Message-ID: <8F7AD5B3Cphoenyx@209.134.108.33> User-Agent: Xnews/03.04.11 Lines: 14 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:23:35 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.134.108.33 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 964407490 209.134.108.33 (Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:58:10 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:58:10 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!codeine.org!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!lists.wirebird.com!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13059 schaduw@silcom.com (Eric Tolle) wrote in <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com>: >Though a recall of all the ones they sold without a transmission >would be nice. Hey, they finally managed to recall all the ones they sold without a head gasket. I'm hoping they'll manage the trannies *before* ours goes out. (Now, if they'd just pay us the *interest* on the $1400 we basically loaned them for a year.) -- Karen Cravens (silver@phoenyx.net) Phoenyx Play-by-Email Roleplaying - http://www.phoenyx.net/ Phoenyx PBeM Banner Exchange - http://www.phoenyx.net/bp/ ###### X-Originating-Host: 194.192.22.33 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 11 From: metal-dog Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Message-ID: <0b121198.dd3cad14@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com> References: <8l8vhl$v7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000721105554.02792.00000614@ng-md1.aol.com> <3978A6A5.AE67E241@mrlizard.com> <397A3D62.B5A200B7@silcom.com> <397A716B.A5CA9DEC@silcom.com> <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com> <8F7AD5B3Cphoenyx@209.134.108.33> Bytes: 372 X-Wren-Trace: eO7L4+L7vPa9o//y6qKi4/P63vHv5Kvs5uPo4an5+KOhufe7rv+isqy9uKWz/Q== Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:55:58 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.34 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon3 964447831 10.0.2.34 (Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:10:31 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:10:31 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!telocity-west!TELOCITY!sn-xit-01!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!WReNclone!WReNphoon3.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13086 Cyberpunk 2020: Very nice vehicle, comfy seats, S..tloads of attitude. 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Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com ###### From: triad3204@aol.com (Justin Bacon) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 25 Jul 2000 18:15:51 GMT References: <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler Message-ID: <20000725141551.02864.00003447@nso-cm.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13281 In article <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com>, Eric Tolle writes: >Though a recall of all the ones they sold without a transmission >would be nice. The BESM game is a completely functional, playable system in a $14 package. The second edition adds a bunch of bells and whistles (and full color). Justin Bacon triad3204@aol.com ###### Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: dana00000@aol.comdiespam (Bwahahahaha) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Date: 25 Jul 2000 19:00:05 GMT References: <20000722123130.16069.00000237@ng-fx1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Message-ID: <20000725150005.05160.00000089@ng-fg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!howland.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13264 >SENZAR: An SUV. No, no, Senzar is not an SUV. It is a riceboymobile. If you don't know what that is, check out www.riceboypage.com D. Jorgensen Alternate Realities Publications http://world-of-barador.com ###### From: bokman7757@aol.com (Bokman7757) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 26 Jul 2000 02:33:55 GMT References: <20000725150005.05160.00000089@ng-fg1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000725223355.01999.00000202@ng-ci1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.129!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13269 << >SENZAR: An SUV. No, no, Senzar is not an SUV. It is a riceboymobile. If you don't know what that is, check out www.riceboypage.com >> You make a good case. Of course, I happen to think my original comparison still has merit- built like a truck, makes the driver feel superior, gets lousy mileage, steers like a cow.... Of course, 3 out of 4 also applies to the riceboymobile. Like I said, you make a good case. ###### From: guppyshark@quakeclan.net (Brad Carletti) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: RPGs as cars, Re: Dune to d20 - You betcha Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:39:17 GMT Message-ID: <397e5d57.890020@news.adelaide.on.net> References: <397B2C5C.17CD1E06@silcom.com> <20000725141551.02864.00003447@nso-cm.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp787.adelaide.on.net.au X-Trace: 26 Jul 2000 13:03:41 +0950, ppp787.adelaide.on.net.au Lines: 10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!yorrell.saard.net!duster.adelaide.on.net!ppp787.adelaide.on.net.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:13283 >>Though a recall of all the ones they sold without a transmission >>would be nice. > >The BESM game is a completely functional, playable system in a $14 package. The >second edition adds a bunch of bells and whistles (and full color). I move to strike this post as it is not in the spirit of the thread. :) Brad Carletti