From: "Christian Walker" Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Open Source RPGs? Date: 04 Jun 2000 23:13:16 EDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> Reply-To: "Christian Walker" NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.1.211.155 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8015 Hello, I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? Many thanks! -- -Christian gaming fun at http://users.deltanet.com/~antissa ###### Reply-To: "EP Healy" From: "EP Healy" Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Lines: 20 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 03:27:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.10.118.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.nj.home.com 960175656 24.10.118.103 (Sun, 04 Jun 2000 20:27:36 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 20:27:36 PDT Organization: @Home Network Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.netcologne.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.nj.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8014 > I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the > direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone > know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? Christian, You should check out the FUDGE [ http://www.fudgerpg.com/ ] license and Dominion Games [ http://www.dominiongames.com/ ] for some open license games. I'm not sure, but I think The Window http://www.mimgames.com/window/ ] might be open license as well. If you are simply looking for some listings of free / indie games, you could check one of the many listings on the web. I have a small one at Hephaestus' Forge [ http://www.indierpgs.com/ ] which you can look at. EP Healy Gaming Outpost.com ###### From: fantasyrealms@mindspring.com (Joseph Teller) Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:38:51 GMT Organization: Fantasy Library (www.fantasylibrary.com) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <393b9f3c.4130608@news.mindspring.com> References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> Reply-To: joeteller@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.0a.a1 X-Server-Date: 5 Jun 2000 12:31:49 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8007 On 04 Jun 2000 23:13:16 EDT, "Christian Walker" wrote: >Hello, > >I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the >direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone >know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? Drop on by the fantasylibrary.com website and take a look at Cosmic Synchronicity..... Joe Joseph Teller joeteller@mindspring.com "Put Some Fantasy Back In Your Life!" The Fantasy Library http://www.fantasylibrary.com ###### From: Peter Knutsen Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:17:07 +0200 Organization: http://www.knutsen.dk Lines: 47 Message-ID: <393C0AC3.AB923A88@knutsen.dk> References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: msx-esp-3a-10.ppp.cybercity.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.cybercity.dk 960236073 61808 212.242.17.203 (5 Jun 2000 20:14:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cybercity.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 2000 20:14:32 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.datacomm.ch!newscore.gigabell.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!zur.uu.net!ams.uu.net!news.cybercity.dk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:7983 Christian Walker wrote: > > Hello, Hi > I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the > direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone > know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? The best collection of links to freeware RPG rules systems is http://www.ps.uci.edu/~jhkim/rpg/freerpgs.html However, I'm not sure that they live up to your expectations about "open source". I've published variant rules for Quest RPG and Powergame RPg v5.5, and I'm 110% certain that I could publish variant rules for FUDGE without Steffan complaining. What I have not done (and do not intend to do) is to steal original text from other people's rulebooks and make modifications and then publish the modified text under my name. Instead I write and publish independent documents that boils down to "take the Quest RPG rules system and change A and B in his way and C into D". And that's fine with me. Why do you want open source? What's the good thing about open source compared to systems that allows you to publish your own additions and supplements and optional rules? I see no legitimate need to steal parts of a text and modify it. Since the original text is free, it's extremely simple to just tell people "First go to the Quest (or FUDGE, or Powergame) website and read and understand the original rules, then come back here and read my additional rules". > -- > -Christian -- Peter Knutsen ###### From: Frank J. Perricone Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Organization: http://www.sover.net/~hawthorn/ Message-ID: References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: support@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:19:50 EDT Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:20:26 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!portc03.blue.aol.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!news-east.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8144 On 04 Jun 2000 23:13:16 EDT, "Christian Walker" wrote: > I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the > direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone > know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? Try http://www.unclebear.com/ for a good list of free games. There are hundreds of them. -- * Frank J. Perricone * hawthorn@sover.net * http://www.sover.net/~hawthorn Prism: http://www.sover.net/~hawthorn/Prism/ Just because we aren't all the same doesn't mean we have nothing in common Just because we have something in common doesn't mean we're all the same ###### From: Jerry Stratton Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Organization: Negative Space References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) X-Face: $!..L~)V627k~Fp@ojChOSX"5f@Jv=Wi;2I?!oAQgdUyNO8cFFdEefO#1jn#) v!PG?:'3/TZt/-*.7nNOij7TX9qL0j*mqZ^7qqOov0gG=Uyd9?f4:~,ce9 Message-ID: Lines: 19 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 01:05:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.130.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 960253542 24.0.130.131 (Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:05:42 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:05:42 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8056 In article <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net>, "Christian Walker" wrote: >I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the >direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone >know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? I have a list of 'free' and 'shareware' RPGs at http://www.hoboes.com/html/RPG/netgames.html And I released my superhero game under the Gnu Free Documentation License (see http://www.hoboes.com/html/RPG/BrandX/) about a month ago. There's also FUDGE, which is not "open source" per se (depending on your definition) but as I recall from discussions in this group, does offer free or nearly so licenses. Look on the net RPG list link above for a link to FUDGE. Jerry http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/ ###### From: Peter Knutsen Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:51:25 +0200 Organization: http://www.knutsen.dk Lines: 29 Message-ID: <393C672D.7B5AC9B8@knutsen.dk> References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: msx-esp-39-1.ppp.cybercity.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.cybercity.dk 960260492 10532 212.242.17.130 (6 Jun 2000 03:01:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cybercity.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Jun 2000 03:01:32 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!bignews.mediaways.net!skynet.be!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.cybercity.dk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8048 Jerry Stratton wrote: > And I released my superhero game under the Gnu Free Documentation > License (see http://www.hoboes.com/html/RPG/BrandX/) about a month ago. Are you the creator of the BrandX superhero RPG system? I downloaded that rules system from a BBS many, many years ago, like in 1994 or 1995. I didn't particularly like or dislike it, though, I just think it's kinda cool to bump into something so ancient :-) > There's also FUDGE, which is not "open source" per se (depending on your > definition) but as I recall from discussions in this group, does offer > free or nearly so licenses. Look on the net RPG list link above for a > link to FUDGE. There was another simplistic freeware RPG system floating around on BBSes in the early 90's, called "Epic" made by a guy named Kevin Buchanan, but I haven't been able to locate it on the Internet. Do you know where it might be? > Jerry -- Peter Knutsen ###### From: Jerry Stratton Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? Organization: Negative Space References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> <393C672D.7B5AC9B8@knutsen.dk> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) X-Face: $!..L~)V627k~Fp@ojChOSX"5f@Jv=Wi;2I?!oAQgdUyNO8cFFdEefO#1jn#) v!PG?:'3/TZt/-*.7nNOij7TX9qL0j*mqZ^7qqOov0gG=Uyd9?f4:~,ce9 Message-ID: Lines: 41 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 00:19:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.130.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 960337183 24.0.130.131 (Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:19:43 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:19:43 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8189 In article <393C672D.7B5AC9B8@knutsen.dk>, Peter Knutsen wrote: >Jerry Stratton wrote: >> And I released my superhero game under the Gnu Free Documentation >> License (see http://www.hoboes.com/html/RPG/BrandX/) about a month ago. > >Are you the creator of the BrandX superhero RPG system? That's me. "Brand X" was originally "Men & Supermen circa 1981, 1982. About three or four years ago in a fit of political correctness, I changed the name, but "Men & Supermen" was too cool a name to stay away from, so I changed it back about a year or two ago. >I downloaded that rules system from a BBS many, many years >ago, like in 1994 or 1995. I didn't particularly like or dislike >it, though, I just think it's kinda cool to bump into something >so ancient :-) You should see its author :*) >> There's also FUDGE, which is not "open source" per se (depending on your >> definition) but as I recall from discussions in this group, does offer >> free or nearly so licenses. Look on the net RPG list link above for a >> link to FUDGE. > >There was another simplistic freeware RPG system floating >around on BBSes in the early 90's, called "Epic" made by a >guy named Kevin Buchanan, but I haven't been able to locate >it on the Internet. Do you know where it might be? The computer doesn't seem to be up right now, but it looks like an RPG of some type called "Epic" can be found with the following host: aust1159.sig.net: http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=host%3Aaust1159.sig.net It was last modified on Jan 30 of this year, and presumably last indexed by altavista sometime after that. Jerry http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/ ###### Message-ID: <393F8F7E.12023ABD@fudgerpg.com> From: Ann Dupuis Reply-To: ghostgames@fudgerpg.com Organization: Grey Ghost Press, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: Open Source RPGs? References: <8hf5sc$5tr@chronicle.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:14:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.32.35 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 960466473 24.147.32.35 (Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:14:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:14:33 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.games.frp.misc:8488 Christian Walker wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm hoping the good folks of this newsgroup could point me in the > direction of open source RPG systems published on line. Or, does anyone > know of any online systems that offer free, or inexpensive, licenses? The Fudge commercial license is free, and Fudge itself is almost infinitely malleable. :-) There have been some discussions as to whether Fudge really qualifies as "Open Source" or not (it doesn't if your definition of "open source" includes the requirement that derivatives of and additions to the Fudge system also be available as "open source" material), but even if it's not "open source" it *is* free to use, free to adapt and customize, and has a built-in fan base. You can find Fudge online at http://www.fudgerpg.com. The application for a commercial license is at: http://www.io.com/~sos/rpg/fudlic.html If you're not going to be selling the resulting work, just follow the Legal Notice provided with Fudge (it simply requires that you include the About Fudge and Disclaimer paragraphs). -- Best regards, Ann Dupuis (ghostgames@fudgerpg.com) Grey Ghost Press, Inc. (http://www.fudgerpg.com) "Take that, you blasted game!" - Fourth most common use of the Computer Control Cybernetic Enhancement. (From the "Gatecrasher" roleplaying game; http://www.fudgerpg.com/gtcrasher)