From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:13:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1026972786 216.232.187.37 (Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:13:06 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:13:06 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:385 Got some questions for you regarding Kahvi and Cutter: 1) I'm getting mixed messages from Kahvi here, does she like Cutter or Rayek? I understand she had a child with Rayek (Venka) but she seduced Cutter during the long wait (when Leetah, Skywise and the Cubs were taken into the palace). 2) Do you think Cutter fits the chieftain role right or is he just as pompous and hot tempered in his old age than in his youth? 3) Are there any baby pictures of Cutter? 4) If Cutter is not your favorite, tell me what his faults are in your opinion. 5) Do you think that Cutter would have been better off for Kahvi than with Leetah or no? Why or why not? That's all, if you have any Cutter pics, any romantic scenes between either him with Kahvi or him with Leetah, please post it! I'm collecting Cutter pics of all sorts (he's my favorite Elfquest character)! ###### From: rah2@duke.edu (Ralf Haring) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <3d36baab.31974987@news-server.optonline.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 27 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:59:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.186.137.226 X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1026997057 24.186.137.226 (Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:57:37 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:57:37 EDT Organization: Optimum Online Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!news01.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:390 On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:13:06 GMT, "Kris" wrote: > >Got some questions for you regarding Kahvi and Cutter: > >1) I'm getting mixed messages from Kahvi here, does she like Cutter or >Rayek? I understand she had a child with Rayek (Venka) but she seduced >Cutter during the long wait (when Leetah, Skywise and the Cubs were taken >into the palace). They shared a unique bond by both being chiefs. I don't think she "seduced" him. She left with Tyldak after Venka was grown. She's attracted to men who can get her what she wants, Rayek for the magic, Cutter for being able to raise Venka with the Wolfriders, Tyldak for transportation. ;-P Tyldak was finally the one to stand up to her and tell her she was being an ass when she was being an ass and I think she respected that. So she stuck with him. >2) Do you think Cutter fits the chieftain role right or is he just as >pompous and hot tempered in his old age than in his youth? He grew into it. I'd like to see a flare of the old idealism every now and again. -Ralf Haring "The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon ###### Lines: 8 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 18 Jul 2002 13:34:25 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020718093425.02016.00000891@mb-md.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:381 Just FYI, pics aren't supposed to be posted here by anyone. There's a newsgroup around designed for that, though I forget the name. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020718093425.02016.00000891@mb-md.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <4fJZ8.4645$8D4.247575@news2.telusplanet.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:41:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1027039296 216.232.187.37 (Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:41:36 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:41:36 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:384 What is FYI? "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020718093425.02016.00000891@mb-md.aol.com... > Just FYI, pics aren't supposed to be posted here by anyone. There's a > newsgroup around designed for that, though I forget the name. > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 19 Jul 2002 01:11:17 GMT References: <4fJZ8.4645$8D4.247575@news2.telusplanet.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020718211117.20728.00000140@mb-fo.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:379 Kris: >What is FYI? FYI = For Your Information James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <4fJZ8.4645$8D4.247575@news2.telusplanet.net> <20020718211117.20728.00000140@mb-fo.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:11:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1027059087 216.232.187.37 (Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:11:27 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:11:27 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:386 Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020718211117.20728.00000140@mb-fo.aol.com... > Kris: > >What is FYI? > > FYI = For Your Information > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Lines: 15 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 19 Jul 2002 06:13:58 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news2.euro.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:382 Kris: >Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? They're binaries here, which are highly frowned upon. I can't explain the specifics as well as others, so hopefully someone else will chime in. But posting pictures to a newsgroup is one of the fastest ways to get on the bad side of a lot of people. It's better to point people to a picture on a website. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: "James Stacey" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 31 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:13:58 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.168.150.70 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net 1027070035 194.168.150.70 (Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:13:55 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:13:55 BST Organization: ntl Business News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:391 as far as I know its a speed issue. People on slow connections have enough of a headache downloading crappy html filled spam emails offering get rich quick schemes (its not a dogey pyramid scheme - its a trapezoid scheme), loans, porn or the like, a non binary newsgroup shouldn't contain anything other than plain text. makes it easier to download all your messages without punching the screen in annoyance. -- James Stacey "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com... > Kris: > >Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? > > They're binaries here, which are highly frowned upon. I can't explain the > specifics as well as others, so hopefully someone else will chime in. > > But posting pictures to a newsgroup is one of the fastest ways to get on the > bad side of a lot of people. It's better to point people to a picture on a > website. > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Date: 19 Jul 2002 14:00:58 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 72 Message-ID: <6uheiwsz9h.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 1027080058 657 10.0.3.2 (19 Jul 2002 12:00:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jul 2002 12:00:58 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:392 "Kris" writes: > 1) I'm getting mixed messages from Kahvi here, does she like Cutter or > Rayek? Most likely both. At least some part in either of them. > I understand she had a child with Rayek (Venka) but she seduced > Cutter during the long wait (when Leetah, Skywise and the Cubs were taken > into the palace). Apropos "seduced": Elves simply don't think that way. They do not regard sex as something that only the "possessing" lifemate is allowed. So they don't look at sharing as seduction/stealing. For more insight into the Elves views on this issue (and why they have them) try Richards response on the letters page of the 18th issue of the original series. Online at: http://www.rwhirled.com/eq/eqletter/eq18.htm Scroll down to: "***** Nor has the emotional bond between Cutter and Leetah been lessened" > 2) Do you think Cutter fits the chieftain role right or is he just as > pompous and hot tempered in his old age than in his youth? Who else would? He is the only one who is really fit for it. > 3) Are there any baby pictures of Cutter? I have seen one with child Cutter and his parents, but can not remember where. > 5) Do you think that Cutter would have been better off for Kahvi than with > Leetah or no? Why or why not? He ist best off with both and all others. The way it actually is. > That's all, if you have any Cutter pics, any romantic scenes between either > him with Kahvi or him with Leetah, please post it! Do not post pictures (or any other binary files) to Usenet. They bloat the data volume and annoy readers with slow modems (leading to them leaving groups), and annoy server operators with little disk space (leading to them deleting groups). Only post picures or binaries in groups whtich have "pictures" or "binaries" in their group name. Such groups are reserved for this, and only available/subscribed by people who accept the volume involved. > I'm collecting Cutter > pics of all sorts (he's my favorite Elfquest character)! Go to your favourite search engine and search on "elfquest cutter picture". You should get flooded. P.S. search engines are allways the fastest way to find stuff. No waiting for answers. And you get the entire content of the Web that is just waiting for you to come by. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Programmer, Archer, Roleplayer - Make your code truely free: put it into the public domain ###### Message-ID: <3D37FB9A.7AD7@dmcom.net> From: bard@dmcom.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions References: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:42:12 EDT Organization: WebUseNet Corp. http://corp.webusenet.com - ReInventing the UseNet Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:44:26 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.siscom.net!easynews!ps01-sjc1!news.webusenet.com!pc01.webusenet.com!atlpnn01.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:394 James Stacey wrote: > > as far as I know its a speed issue. People on slow connections have enough > of a headache downloading crappy html filled spam emails offering get rich > quick schemes (its not a dogey pyramid scheme - its a trapezoid scheme), > loans, porn or the like, a non binary newsgroup shouldn't contain anything > other than plain text. makes it easier to download all your messages without > punching the screen in annoyance. It is not a speed issue. What the issue is is retention. A misplaced binary often equals many text posts. Providers maintain only so much spool (space) for articles. A 500 K image could force 500 1k text posts to expire. Of course a stealth binary does include the download limits and time constraints. > > -- > James Stacey > > "Flashfire" wrote in message > news:20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com... > > Kris: > > >Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? > > > > They're binaries here, which are highly frowned upon. I can't explain the > > specifics as well as others, so hopefully someone else will chime in. > > > > But posting pictures to a newsgroup is one of the fastest ways to get on > the > > bad side of a lot of people. It's better to point people to a picture on > a > > website. Or announce that the binary was posted to a binary group. If posting one there please post it to the correct binary group. Off topics posts anywhere will get people upset. > > > > James > > > > ----------- > > > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. -- news:alt.pagan FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/altpag.txt news:alt.religion.wicca FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/arwfaq2.txt news:news.groups FAQ at http://www.dmcom.net/bard/ngfaq.txt ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Date: 19 Jul 2002 14:45:35 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6uadonnaxc.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> <3D37FB9A.7AD7@dmcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 1027082739 823 10.0.3.2 (19 Jul 2002 12:45:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jul 2002 12:45:39 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:395 bard@dmcom.net writes: > > "Flashfire" wrote in message > > > Kris: > > > >Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? > > > > > > They're binaries here, which are highly frowned upon. I can't explain th> > Or announce that the binary was posted to a binary group. If posting > one there please post it to the correct binary group. Off topics posts > anywhere will get people upset. Or put the picture on your website (you surely have one :-)) and then post the URL. Then interested people can just click and get the picture in their browser. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Programmer, Archer, Roleplayer - Make your code truely free: put it into the public domain ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> <3D37FB9A.7AD7@dmcom.net> <6uadonnaxc.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 29 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 03:58:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 1027137480 216.232.187.37 (Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:58:00 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:58:00 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!torn!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:400 Fine, fair enough. So can someone post a URL referrer in regards to the Kahvi and Cutter pics I desire? "Neil Franklin" wrote in message news:6uadonnaxc.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch... > bard@dmcom.net writes: > > > > "Flashfire" wrote in message > > > > Kris: > > > > >Why are pics not allowed to be posted here? > > > > > > > > They're binaries here, which are highly frowned upon. I can't explain th> > > > Or announce that the binary was posted to a binary group. If posting > > one there please post it to the correct binary group. Off topics posts > > anywhere will get people upset. > > Or put the picture on your website (you surely have one :-)) and then > post the URL. Then interested people can just click and get the > picture in their browser. > > > -- > Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ > Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Programmer, Archer, Roleplayer > - Make your code truely free: put it into the public domain ###### Lines: 11 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 20 Jul 2002 04:17:44 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020720001744.14409.00000552@mb-dh.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!proxad.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:396 Kris: >Fine, fair enough. So can someone post a URL referrer in regards to the >Kahvi and Cutter pics I desire? Why don't you just use a search engine like Yahoo and do a query yourself? James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020720001744.14409.00000552@mb-dh.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 17 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:29:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1027250974 216.232.187.37 (Sun, 21 Jul 2002 05:29:34 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 05:29:34 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:403 Well, thought I might save time and ask it here. No harm done right? "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020720001744.14409.00000552@mb-dh.aol.com... > Kris: > >Fine, fair enough. So can someone post a URL referrer in regards to the > >Kahvi and Cutter pics I desire? > > Why don't you just use a search engine like Yahoo and do a query yourself? > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Lines: 11 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 21 Jul 2002 16:02:34 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020721120234.14622.00001072@mb-fp.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:401 Kris: >Well, thought I might save time and ask it here. No harm done right? It'd actually be faster if you did the checking yourself. Otherwise, like what's happening now, you're waiting and nobody has any sites to show you. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: rah2@duke.edu (Ralf Haring) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <3d3add40.302972451@news-server.optonline.net> References: <20020720001744.14409.00000552@mb-dh.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 22 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:13:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.186.137.226 X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1027267889 24.186.137.226 (Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:11:29 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:11:29 EDT Organization: Optimum Online Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!64.152.100.70!ps01-sjc1!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!news01.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:404 On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:29:34 GMT, "Kris" wrote: >Well, thought I might save time and ask it here. No harm done right? It's always fastest if you do it yourself. The internet offers a wealth of information to *everyone*. That includes you. The choices are: 1) You search or 1) You ask someone else to search 2) Someone else searches 3) They tell you what they found Which do you think goes faster? -Ralf Haring "The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020720001744.14409.00000552@mb-dh.aol.com> <3d3add40.302972451@news-server.optonline.net> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 28 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:29:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 1027326596 216.232.187.37 (Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:29:56 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:29:56 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:409 Well you don't have to be snide about it. Fine I get the point, god! "Ralf Haring" wrote in message news:3d3add40.302972451@news-server.optonline.net... > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:29:34 GMT, "Kris" wrote: > > >Well, thought I might save time and ask it here. No harm done right? > > It's always fastest if you do it yourself. The internet offers a > wealth of information to *everyone*. That includes you. The choices > are: > > 1) You search > > or > > 1) You ask someone else to search > 2) Someone else searches > 3) They tell you what they found > > Which do you think goes faster? > > -Ralf Haring > "The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, > the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." > -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon ###### Lines: 14 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 22 Jul 2002 14:15:23 GMT References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!mango.news.easynet.net!easynet.net!newspump.sol.net!nntp1.roc.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:406 Kris: >Well you don't have to be snide about it. Fine I get the point, god! What was snide about it? He gave you a comparison and asked which you think would be faster. It's always faster if you do the digging yourself. If you can't find anything, then come ask. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: rah2@duke.edu (Ralf Haring) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <3d3c974a.416134429@news-server.optonline.net> References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 19 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:49:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.186.137.226 X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1027385246 24.186.137.226 (Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:26 EDT Organization: Optimum Online Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!ps01-sjc1!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!news01.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:413 On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:04:18 +0200, "Taemon" wrote: > >This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said, >what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has >one themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient. Hi, I'm looking for information on Norwegian duck migration patterns. Can you find some info and post it for me? And now imagine every newbie asking for something different. After a while it gets a bit tiring to look everything up for them when it is so easy to find any scrap of information you could possibly want. Personally, I would rather learn how to do something myself than continually have to ask someone else. -Ralf Haring "The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon ###### From: "Gun-Knight" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:07:56 -0400 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb8Ue3PY71cuUHy2gQMiWmo3dTtrC825Ebh+WdhhyMgNbJBNVgY/J0F X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Jul 2002 02:10:47 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!bigboote.WPI.EDU!sidehack.gweep.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:410 > > > Kris: > > >Well you don't have to be snide about it. Fine I get the point, > god! > > What was snide about it? He gave you a comparison and asked which > you think > > would be faster. > > This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said, > what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has > one themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient. > Also remember, Kris probably wanted "active" sites. Search engines can't tell you that. ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:38:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 1027424304 216.232.187.37 (Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:38:24 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:38:24 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:412 Exactly! Thanks for agreeing with me! =) "Gun-Knight" wrote in message news:ahidv7$f6f$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > > > > Kris: > > > >Well you don't have to be snide about it. Fine I get the point, > > god! > > > What was snide about it? He gave you a comparison and asked which > > you think > > > would be faster. > > > > This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said, > > what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has > > one themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient. > > > Also remember, Kris probably wanted "active" sites. Search engines can't > tell you that. > > ###### Lines: 20 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 23 Jul 2002 14:19:19 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020723101919.19439.00000294@mb-fo.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:411 >> Also remember, Kris probably wanted "active" sites. Search engines can't >> tell you that. That's what clicking on the results is for. (Yes, THAT was meant to be snide) What's so hard about people doing the digging themselves? It's easy to see Kris is very new to this kind of format (asking about posting pics and wondering why people weren't answering her earlier), so a couple of us have tried to give her a pointer or two. If someone has a ready list of sites that answer her question handy, great. Otherwise, she's better off learning a thing or two and searching for the info herself. How else is she going to learn the tricks for good searches if others always do it for her? James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Message-ID: <3D3E0FAF.8090400@mn.rr.com> From: Tim Goetsch Reply-To: TGOETSCH1@mn.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011022 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> <3d3c974a.416134429@news-server.optonline.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080404090104080605060307" Lines: 84 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:23:43 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.163.192.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.kc.rr.com 1027477928 24.163.192.243 (Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:32:08 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:32:08 CDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!opentransit.net!proxad.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:430 --------------080404090104080605060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Done much searching lately? The search engines are becoming more and more commercialized. They list commercial sites first, the people who pay to have their sites listed first. Chances are Amazon and eBay will seven of the the first ten hits. Hobbyists and fans who are in for the love of it are listed way down on the list, lost among the pornographers, if they get listed at all. Here's the best way to do it: 1: Do your own search. 2: Ask others about their favorites. What's so hard about understanding that, Kris? What's so annoying about that, Ralf? Ralf Haring wrote: >On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:04:18 +0200, "Taemon" wrote: > >>This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said, >>what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has >>one themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient. >> > >Hi, I'm looking for information on Norwegian duck migration patterns. >Can you find some info and post it for me? > >And now imagine every newbie asking for something different. After a >while it gets a bit tiring to look everything up for them when it is >so easy to find any scrap of information you could possibly want. >Personally, I would rather learn how to do something myself than >continually have to ask someone else. > >-Ralf Haring >"The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, > the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." > -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon > --------------080404090104080605060307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Done much searching lately? The search engines are becoming more and more commercialized. They list commercial sites first, the people who pay to have their sites listed first. Chances are Amazon and eBay will seven of the the first ten hits. Hobbyists and fans who are in for the love of it are listed way down on the list, lost among the pornographers, if they get listed at all.

Here's the best way to do it:

1: Do your own search.

2: Ask others about their favorites.

What's so hard about understanding that, Kris? What's so annoying about that, Ralf?

Ralf Haring wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:04:18 +0200, "Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> wrote:
This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said,
what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has
one themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient.

Hi, I'm looking for information on Norwegian duck migration patterns.
Can you find some info and post it for me?

And now imagine every newbie asking for something different. After a
while it gets a bit tiring to look everything up for them when it is
so easy to find any scrap of information you could possibly want.
Personally, I would rather learn how to do something myself than
continually have to ask someone else.

-Ralf Haring
"The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener,
 the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less."
                    -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon

--------------080404090104080605060307-- ###### From: rah2@duke.edu (Ralf Haring) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <3d3e2502.518085898@news-server.optonline.net> References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> <3d3c974a.416134429@news-server.optonline.net> <3D3E0FAF.8090400@mn.rr.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 19 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:55:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.186.137.226 X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1027482950 24.186.137.226 (Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:55:50 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:55:50 EDT Organization: Optimum Online Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.vmunix.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeeds-atl2!news.webusenet.com!news01.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:428 On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:23:43 -0500, Tim Goetsch wrote: First off, please don't e-mail me. I will see your post if it appears on the newsgroup. >Done much searching lately? The search engines are becoming more and >more commercialized. They list commercial sites first, the people who >pay to have their sites listed first. Chances are Amazon and eBay will >seven of the the first ten hits. Hobbyists and fans who are in for the >love of it are listed way down on the list, lost among the >pornographers, if they get listed at all. Yes, I have done much searching. http://www.google.com -Ralf Haring "The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, the spirit the greater, as our strength grows less." -Byrhtwold, The Battle of Maldon ###### Reply-To: "Chasm" From: "Chasm" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020719021358.20736.00000162@mb-fo.aol.com> <3D37FB9A.7AD7@dmcom.net> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <5bs%8.385$XG5.103@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:54:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.121.84.81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1027493697 165.121.84.81 (Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:54:57 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:54:57 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!ae04fa85!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:414 > > as far as I know its a speed issue. > > It is not a speed issue. What the issue is is retention. Actually, it's: speed -> if you're downloading an entire text newsgroup, you don't want to be bogged down w/ binary posts. If you wanted that, you'd download from a binaries group retention -> different newsgroup providers handle retention differently, but the binaries sure help the chances that other's text posts get lost faster courtesy -> mostly, see speed. But even with a broadband connection, you want to get text if you were expecting it, binaries if you were expecting those common sense -> see those newsgroups with "binaries" in them? That's what they're there for! (Tip: alt.binaries.misc is there for just that purpose if you don't have a website and want to post a binary!) accessibility -> many news providers actively filter out binaries, so posting a link to a website or even posting to an "accepted" binaries group makes the most sense and helps ensure your binary will be accessible to all those interested. There are many more reasons if one thinks hard enough. And I just don't feel like it. Granted, I'm just amusing myself, but still.... Chasm ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020723101919.19439.00000294@mb-fo.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:22:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 1027502566 216.232.187.37 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:22:46 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:22:46 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:422 Okay, fine. But how do you know I haven't searches prior to my request? "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020723101919.19439.00000294@mb-fo.aol.com... > >> Also remember, Kris probably wanted "active" sites. Search engines can't > >> tell you that. > > That's what clicking on the results is for. > > (Yes, THAT was meant to be snide) > > What's so hard about people doing the digging themselves? It's easy to see > Kris is very new to this kind of format (asking about posting pics and > wondering why people weren't answering her earlier), so a couple of us have > tried to give her a pointer or two. If someone has a ready list of sites that > answer her question handy, great. Otherwise, she's better off learning a thing > or two and searching for the info herself. How else is she going to learn the > tricks for good searches if others always do it for her? > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <6uheiwsz9h.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 81 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:24:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 1027502677 216.232.187.37 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:24:37 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:24:37 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:424 Alright, thanks for the info, I'll follow what you said! =) "Neil Franklin" wrote in message news:6uheiwsz9h.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch... > "Kris" writes: > > > 1) I'm getting mixed messages from Kahvi here, does she like Cutter or > > Rayek? > > Most likely both. At least some part in either of them. > > > > I understand she had a child with Rayek (Venka) but she seduced > > Cutter during the long wait (when Leetah, Skywise and the Cubs were taken > > into the palace). > > Apropos "seduced": Elves simply don't think that way. They do not > regard sex as something that only the "possessing" lifemate is > allowed. So they don't look at sharing as seduction/stealing. > > For more insight into the Elves views on this issue (and why they have > them) try Richards response on the letters page of the 18th issue of > the original series. Online at: > > http://www.rwhirled.com/eq/eqletter/eq18.htm > > Scroll down to: "***** Nor has the emotional bond between Cutter and > Leetah been lessened" > > > > 2) Do you think Cutter fits the chieftain role right or is he just as > > pompous and hot tempered in his old age than in his youth? > > Who else would? He is the only one who is really fit for it. > > > > 3) Are there any baby pictures of Cutter? > > I have seen one with child Cutter and his parents, but can not > remember where. > > > > 5) Do you think that Cutter would have been better off for Kahvi than with > > Leetah or no? Why or why not? > > He ist best off with both and all others. The way it actually is. > > > > That's all, if you have any Cutter pics, any romantic scenes between either > > him with Kahvi or him with Leetah, please post it! > > Do not post pictures (or any other binary files) to Usenet. They bloat > the data volume and annoy readers with slow modems (leading to them > leaving groups), and annoy server operators with little disk space > (leading to them deleting groups). > > Only post picures or binaries in groups whtich have "pictures" or > "binaries" in their group name. Such groups are reserved for this, and > only available/subscribed by people who accept the volume involved. > > > > I'm collecting Cutter > > pics of all sorts (he's my favorite Elfquest character)! > > Go to your favourite search engine and search on "elfquest cutter > picture". You should get flooded. > > P.S. search engines are allways the fastest way to find stuff. No > waiting for answers. And you get the entire content of the Web that is > just waiting for you to come by. > > > -- > Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ > Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Programmer, Archer, Roleplayer > - Make your code truely free: put it into the public domain ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <8oP_8.12307$Vl5.482885@news0.telusplanet.net> <20020722101523.14297.00000025@mb-fp.aol.com> <3d3c974a.416134429@news-server.optonline.net> <3D3E0FAF.8090400@mn.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 112 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C232DB.E79ABE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <3ex%8.7767$Xb2.238693@news2.telusplanet.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:39:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1027514367 216.232.187.37 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:39:27 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:39:27 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!news-x2.support.nl!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!xmission!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:423 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C232DB.E79ABE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh its understandable, its just how he wrote it that seemed snide. We're = talking about snide. I already searched the Internet. I really don't = know why everyone is making such a big deal outta this..sheesh! "Tim Goetsch" wrote in message = news:3D3E0FAF.8090400@mn.rr.com... Done much searching lately? The search engines are becoming more and = more commercialized. They list commercial sites first, the people who = pay to have their sites listed first. Chances are Amazon and eBay will = seven of the the first ten hits. Hobbyists and fans who are in for the = love of it are listed way down on the list, lost among the = pornographers, if they get listed at all. Here's the best way to do it: 1: Do your own search. 2: Ask others about their favorites. What's so hard about understanding that, Kris? What's so annoying = about that, Ralf? Ralf Haring wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:04:18 +0200, "Taemon" wrote: This time I agree with Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris = said,what's the harm in asking? Could be some knows of a good site or = hasone themselves. Search engines are far from omniscient. Hi, I'm looking for information on Norwegian duck migration patterns.Can = you find some info and post it for me?And now imagine every newbie = asking for something different. After awhile it gets a bit tiring to = look everything up for them when it isso easy to find any scrap of = information you could possibly want.Personally, I would rather learn how = to do something myself thancontinually have to ask someone else.-Ralf = Haring"The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener, the spirit the = greater, as our strength grows less." -Byrhtwold, The = Battle of Maldon ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C232DB.E79ABE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh its understandable, its just how he = wrote it=20 that seemed snide. We're talking about snide. I already searched the = Internet. I=20 really don't know why everyone is making such a big deal outta=20 this..sheesh!
"Tim Goetsch" <TGOETSCH1@mn.rr.com> wrote = in message=20 news:3D3E0FAF.8090400@mn.rr.com<= /A>...
Done=20 much searching lately? The search engines are becoming more and more=20 commercialized. They list commercial sites first, the people who pay = to have=20 their sites listed first. Chances are Amazon and eBay will seven of = the the=20 first ten hits. Hobbyists and fans who are in for the love of it are = listed=20 way down on the list, lost among the pornographers, if they get listed = at=20 all.

Here's the best way to do it:

1: Do your own=20 search.

2: Ask others about their favorites.

What's so = hard=20 about understanding that, Kris? What's so annoying about that,=20 Ralf?

Ralf Haring wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:04:18 +0200, =
"Taemon" <Taemon@zonnet.nl> =
wrote:
This time I agree with =
Kris. It was pretty snide. And, as Kris said,
what's the harm in =
asking? Could be some knows of a good site or has
one themselves. =
Search engines are far from omniscient.

Hi, I'm looking for information on Norwegian duck =
migration patterns.
Can you find some info and post it for =
me?

And now imagine every newbie asking for something different. =
After a
while it gets a bit tiring to look everything up for them =
when it is
so easy to find any scrap of information you could =
possibly want.
Personally, I would rather learn how to do something =
myself than
continually have to ask someone else.

-Ralf =
Haring
"The mind must be the harder, the heart the keener,
 the =
spirit the greater, as our strength grows less."
                    =
-Byrhtwold, The Battle of =
Maldon

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C232DB.E79ABE60-- ###### From: "Kris" Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest References: <20020723101919.19439.00000294@mb-fo.aol.com> Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:41:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.232.187.37 X-Trace: news2.telusplanet.net 1027514484 216.232.187.37 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:41:24 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:41:24 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news2.telusplanet.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:426 Yah well, who are you to say that posting a request was bad? And why are we making such a big deal when all I did was simply ask for some pictures? "Flashfire" wrote in message news:20020723101919.19439.00000294@mb-fo.aol.com... > >> Also remember, Kris probably wanted "active" sites. Search engines can't > >> tell you that. > > That's what clicking on the results is for. > > (Yes, THAT was meant to be snide) > > What's so hard about people doing the digging themselves? It's easy to see > Kris is very new to this kind of format (asking about posting pics and > wondering why people weren't answering her earlier), so a couple of us have > tried to give her a pointer or two. If someone has a ready list of sites that > answer her question handy, great. Otherwise, she's better off learning a thing > or two and searching for the info herself. How else is she going to learn the > tricks for good searches if others always do it for her? > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Lines: 13 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 24 Jul 2002 13:20:38 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020724092038.03876.00000719@mb-cu.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:417 Kris: >Okay, fine. But how do you know I haven't searches prior to my request? We don't, but that's where you could be more specific and say "Hey, I've tried to find this, but I couldn't. Can someone help?" Instead, all you did was ask if anyone had any pics to post. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### From: Richard Pini Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:54:57 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 24 Message-ID: <240720021254572216%rpini@elfquest.com> References: <20020724092038.03876.00000719@mb-cu.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 43.f3.af.e1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 24 Jul 2002 16:58:42 GMT Mail-Copies-To: poster User-Agent: YA-NewsWatcher/5.0.1 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!rpini Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:419 To everyone, but particularly the "big three" involved in this thread: Why assume the worst of whoever wrote last, whether that assumption is of laziness or snideness or impatience or whatever? I feel like putting on my best Chef voice and saying "Now, children, children..." Debating matters of taste and/or courtest from a fixed position never wins. In article <20020724092038.03876.00000719@mb-cu.aol.com>, Flashfire wrote: > Kris: > >Okay, fine. But how do you know I haven't searches prior to my request? > > We don't, but that's where you could be more specific and say "Hey, I've tried > to find this, but I couldn't. Can someone help?" > > Instead, all you did was ask if anyone had any pics to post. > > James > > ----------- > > Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail. ###### Lines: 15 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: wolf031877@aol.commotion (Flashfire) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.elfquest Date: 25 Jul 2002 01:41:33 GMT References: <240720021254572216%rpini@elfquest.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Kahvi and Cutter questions Message-ID: <20020724214133.03876.00000981@mb-cu.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.comics.elfquest:431 Richard: >To everyone, but particularly the "big three" involved in this thread: > >Why assume the worst of whoever wrote last, whether that assumption is >of laziness or snideness or impatience or whatever? I feel like putting >on my best Chef voice and saying "Now, children, children..." Debating >matters of taste and/or courtest from a fixed position never wins. Point taken, Richard - and a good one it is. James ----------- Remove 'motion' from e-mail address to reply via e-mail.