From: willie.meikle@btinternet.com (Willie Meikle) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Thought for the day Date: 22 Oct 2003 06:17:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.20.246.65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066828671 6534 127.0.0.1 (22 Oct 2003 13:17:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124731 Give someone a fish... and he eats for a day. Teach someone to fish... and he finds the One Ring, goes bananas, tunnels under the Misty Mountains and eats fish all by himself in the caves for hundreds of years. :) Willie Lake monsters kelpies and men in skirts....what more do you need? http://www.willie.meikle.btinternet.co.uk ###### From: "The American" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:27:31 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!nntp.infostrada.it!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124754 "Willie Meikle" wrote in message news:1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com... > Give someone a fish... and he eats for a day. > > Teach someone to fish... and he finds the One Ring, goes bananas, > tunnels under the Misty Mountains and eats fish all by himself in the > caves for hundreds of years. > > :) > LOL! T.A. ###### From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: 22 Oct 2003 14:25:49 -0400 Organization: PANIX -- Public Access Networks Corp. Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1066847149 6835 166.84.1.2 (22 Oct 2003 18:25:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124756 In article <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com>, Willie Meikle wrote: >Give someone a fish... and he eats for a day. > >Teach someone to fish... and he finds the One Ring, goes bananas, >tunnels under the Misty Mountains and eats fish all by himself in the >caves for hundreds of years. Not bad! But I still prefer the traditional version: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him to fish and you will be fighting over the damn fishing hole for the rest of your lives. (Well I didn't say whose tradition I was referring to.... :-) -- John Brock jbrock@panix.com ###### From: Hasdrubal Hamilcar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:52:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.139.135.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1066859531 63.139.135.29 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:52:11 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:52:11 EDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news2.telebyte.nl!newsfeed.mountaincable.net!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124770 Willie Meikle wrote: > Give someone a fish... and he eats for a day. > > Teach someone to fish... and he finds the One Ring, goes bananas, > tunnels under the Misty Mountains and eats fish all by himself in the > caves for hundreds of years. > Give him a fish in the morning, and you don't have to offer him the ring you find in the evening of his birthday. Hasan ###### From: Joe K Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:43:14 -0700 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sfr-tgn-sfc-vty13.as.wcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ngspool-d02.news.aol.com 1066879966 29941 216.192.5.13 (23 Oct 2003 03:32:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:32:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124787 I remember seeing something like this in someone's .signature: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will go off and look for someone else to give him a fish." ###### From: "Robert J. Kolker" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:15:12 -0400 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: h00c0a88ba22d.ne.client2.attbi.com (24.62.143.251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066882519 31751770 24.62.143.251 (16 [76471]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!h00c0a88ba22d.ne.client2.attbi.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124790 Joe K wrote: > I remember seeing something like this in someone's .signature: > > "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he > will go off and look for someone else to give him a fish." I like mine better. Give a man a fish and you have fed him for the day. Let him starve to death and you can forget about him entirely. Suffer not little children to come unto me, for I hate the little diaper crappers. If thine enemmy smite thee on thy cheek, rip his head off and shit down his neck. A rich man shall enter the kingdom of heaven a lot more easily than a poor man. In my father's house are many mansions, but the rent will kill you. Bob Kolker ###### From: Ronald O. Christian Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Message-ID: <4sqfpv8p4454vi6almlprh2a7er3e3t54u@4ax.com> References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:54:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.5.8.239 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc02.gnilink.net 1066920870 4.5.8.239 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:54:30 EDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!propagator-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!nwrddc02.gnilink.net.POSTED!f39f1581!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124807 Teach a man to fish and you've got a vote for a day. Give a man a fish and you've got a vote for life. Ron - http://www.christianfamilywebsite.com http://www.iswizards.com Definition: Nelp: Contraction of "no help". Colloquial: Help messages that are of no help whatsoever. Pertains to help files, messages or documentation that convey no useful information, or pedantically repeat the blindingly obvious. ###### From: "Raven" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Thought for the day Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <0_Vlb.945$5B5.193@news.get2net.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:28:18 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.82.196.66 X-Complaints-To: abuse@get2.net X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 1066937340 195.82.196.66 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:29:00 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:29:00 CEST Organization: get2net Internet Kunde Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124816 "John Brock" skrev i en meddelelse news:bn6i3d$pg$1@panix2.panix.com... > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > Teach him to fish and you will be fighting over > the damn fishing hole for the rest of your lives. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you can scrounge off him for the rest of your life. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you can get aquainted with his wife whenever he's at sea. Marghvran. ###### From: Hasdrubal Hamilcar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 Message-ID: <1TYlb.26852$h61.22689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:46:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.139.135.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1066949181 63.139.135.29 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:46:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:46:21 EDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.mountaincable.net!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124832 Robert J. Kolker wrote: > > > Joe K wrote: > >> I remember seeing something like this in someone's .signature: >> >> "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he >> will go off and look for someone else to give him a fish." > > > I like mine better. > > Give a man a fish and you have fed him for the day. Let him starve to > death and you can forget about him entirely. > > Suffer not little children to come unto me, for I hate the little diaper > crappers. > > If thine enemmy smite thee on thy cheek, rip his head off and shit down > his neck. > > A rich man shall enter the kingdom of heaven a lot more easily than a > poor man. > > In my father's house are many mansions, but the rent will kill you. > And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. Mat 25:8 Hasan ###### From: "Robert J. Kolker" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:56:35 -0400 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> <1TYlb.26852$h61.22689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: h00c0a88ba22d.ne.client2.attbi.com (24.62.143.251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066953403 31490825 24.62.143.251 (16 [76471]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <1TYlb.26852$h61.22689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!h00c0a88ba22d.ne.client2.attbi.COM!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124838 Hasdrubal Hamilcar wrote: > lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there > be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and > buy for yourselves. I like my version better. Go ye rather to them that sell, and take what you need by the sword. Jesus saves. Moses invests. Bob Kolker ###### From: Hasdrubal Hamilcar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> <1TYlb.26852$h61.22689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 31 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:37:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.139.135.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com X-Trace: news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com 1066963054 63.139.135.29 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:37:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:37:34 EDT Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com!news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124843 Robert J. Kolker wrote: > > > Hasdrubal Hamilcar wrote: > >> lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest >> there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that >> sell, and buy for yourselves. > > > I like my version better. Go ye rather to them that sell, and take what > you need by the sword. > Yah but in the bible version, the door then gets slammed shut in their face, by the bridegroom. There's a party and they're not invited. I wonder why. > Jesus saves. Moses invests. > Greens conserve. > Bob Kolker > > ###### From: "Membranous Gauss" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:52:56 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> <3F974E51.773D0C8E@compuserve.com> <1TYlb.26852$h61.22689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wblv-247-50.telkomadsl.co.za X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1066981895 5816 165.165.247.50 (24 Oct 2003 07:51:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Oct 2003 07:51:35 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!carbon.eu.sun.com!btnet-feed5!btnet-peer1!btnet-feed3!btnet-peer0!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124854 Hasdrubal Hamilcar wrote in message news:Of0mb.28652$h61.26307@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... > > > Robert J. Kolker wrote: > > > > > > > Hasdrubal Hamilcar wrote: > > > >> lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest > >> there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that > >> sell, and buy for yourselves. > > > > > > I like my version better. Go ye rather to them that sell, and take what > > you need by the sword. > > > > Yah but in the bible version, the door then gets slammed shut in their > face, by the bridegroom. There's a party and they're not invited. I > wonder why. > > > > Jesus saves. Moses invests. > > > > Greens conserve. > > > Bob Kolker > > Bush burns? ###### From: drushel@apk.net (Richard F. Drushel, Ph.D.) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Thought for the day Date: 24 Oct 2003 15:27:29 GMT Organization: Coleco ADAM Online, Ltd. Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <1b51b553.0310220517.212bfb40@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: junior.apk.net X-Trace: plonk.apk.net 1067009249 26072 207.54.158.21 (24 Oct 2003 15:27:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@apk.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Oct 2003 15:27:29 GMT User-Agent: tin/1.4.6-20020816 ("Aerials") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.8 (sun4u)) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed3.funet.fi!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!inet.fi!ash.uu.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:124870 Willie Meikle spake unto the ether: : Give someone a fish... and he eats for a day. : Teach someone to fish... and he finds the One Ring, goes bananas, : tunnels under the Misty Mountains and eats fish all by himself in the : caves for hundreds of years. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. *Rich* -- Richard F. Drushel, Ph.D. | "Aplysia californica" is your taxonomic Department of Biology, Slug Division | nomenclature. / A slug, by any other Case Western Reserve University | name, is still a slug by nature. Cleveland, Ohio 44106-7080 U.S.A. | -- apologies to Data, "Ode to Spot"