User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Subject: Middle-earth/Europe (was Re: Tolkien: Frequently Asked Questions (2/2)) From: "Carl F. Hostetter" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Message-ID: References: <170620022018320283%dsalo@usa.net> <200620021030298599%dsalo@usa.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-GC-Trace: gv1-U9ydp80wGEMlV5SKiTjVxwvjmLl6/j5vtyYkRw= Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:07:31 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-loZmLvTZ8rEOmQkLUbJBTx/WQ/Ede+AsMX4QS96D0DtI8vF6B5vTC9oy6dV7POo9+TxQEtK5wLE1Uof!q+y9pQ5q1bqSgW0Z5+BY70D9jMS/zunxAPM4erOh1f/VmC2SLFRkJSn/B5urJpjg6MyEXWRj X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:07:31 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:89322 I've long considered the following image as a possible source or influence on Tolkien's map of Middle-earth: http://www.elvish.org/images/old-europe.jpg This image is from Donald A. MacKenzie's _Ancient Man in Britain_ (London: Blackie & Son Limited, 1922), and titled "Western Europe During the Third Inter-glacial Epoch" (p. 17). It would be very surprising if Tolkien weren't familiar with this book. |======================================================================| | Carl F. Hostetter Aelfwine@elvish.org http://www.elvish.org | | | | ho bios brachys, he de techne makre. | | Ars longa, vita brevis. | | The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. | | "I wish life was not so short," he thought. "Languages take | | such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about." | |======================================================================|