Reply-To: "teepee" From: "teepee" Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: The original Hobbit Lines: 10 Organization: home X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:27:51 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.123.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news11-gui.server.ntli.net 1016911552 80.1.123.190 (Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:25:52 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:25:52 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!peernews!peer.cwci.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news11-gui.server.ntli.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:81928 I never realised till recently how different the original hobbit was from the edition I read. Now I understand what Gandalf and Frodo were banging on about in Chapter 2 about Bilbo's out of character lies. Does anyone know if the original chapter of the Hobbit dealing with Gollum is reprinted anywhere, or if it is available online? tp ###### Message-ID: <3C9CF042.C94454DE@prodigy.net> From: grimgard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The original Hobbit References: <4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.56.117.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr16.news.prodigy.com 1016918149 ST000 65.56.117.171 (Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:15:49 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:15:49 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: SCSYQN_@OXWWSR\XIJK@NT\K[[UTB_LILIXNMVMHQYUJUZ]CCVWCPG[YMDXZH^[K[FFQZHBM@FX\NJOCW^TGNQLFRFU_HSDIHX[FCUWCXLP@PBL\BKFXXVGCM\CCKFVL_T[GJLBM@Q^]WKGS]T]M^NG_YKYVGV_IJYXS@MCBT[@JPRXECDFZMSXG]NVQQTJL Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:15:49 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr16.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:81934 teepee wrote: > > I never realised till recently how different the original hobbit was from > the edition I read. Now I understand what Gandalf and Frodo were banging on > about in Chapter 2 about Bilbo's out of character lies. > > Does anyone know if the original chapter of the Hobbit dealing with Gollum > is reprinted anywhere, or if it is available online? > > tp It is avaliable in a book called 'The Annotated Hobbit.' grimgard ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The original Hobbit Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:52:32 -0800 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3C9D315F.48716ED2@erols.com> References: <4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net> <3C9CF042.C94454DE@prodigy.net> Reply-To: jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaxRzg46pw+CrsNyv8EWN7UUHC477LqrogUzXJIu0vwWF5AYf59bvWF X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Mar 2002 22:51:39 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!netnews.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:81945 grimgard wrote: > > Does anyone know if the original chapter of the Hobbit dealing with Gollum > > is reprinted anywhere, or if it is available online? > > It is avaliable in a book called 'The Annotated Hobbit.' Which has been out of print, but is being reprinted this June on both sides of the pond. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth. ###### From: bumrubskidder@go.com (SGT ROCK) Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The original Hobbit Date: 24 Mar 2002 14:18:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5c507142.0203241418.5ac3ca29@posting.google.com> References: <4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.69.255.205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1017008303 9285 127.0.0.1 (24 Mar 2002 22:18:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Mar 2002 22:18:23 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!freenix!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:82183 "teepee" wrote in message news:<4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>... > I never realised till recently how different the original hobbit was from > the edition I read. Now I understand what Gandalf and Frodo were banging on > about in Chapter 2 about Bilbo's out of character lies. > > Does anyone know if the original chapter of the Hobbit dealing with Gollum > is reprinted anywhere, or if it is available online? > > tp This link shows a side by side comparison of the old vs new: http://www.ringgame.net/riddles.html ###### Reply-To: "teepee" From: "teepee" Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <4F4n8.3219$QR.438630@news11-gui.server.ntli.net> <5c507142.0203241418.5ac3ca29@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: The original Hobbit Lines: 12 Organization: home X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <42Cn8.4561$kU2.554964@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:09:44 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.123.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 1017048320 80.1.123.190 (Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:25:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:25:20 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!peernews!peer.cwci.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:82029 "SGT ROCK" wrote > This link shows a side by side comparison of the old vs new: > > http://www.ringgame.net/riddles.html Many many thanks teepee