From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:34:45 -0800 Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> References: <3C2564BB.DB72C0E4@hers.com> <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> Reply-To: jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbpuuPdPiVc0VEUT7JCeARD8dpTIW9MxvziNFpuMqJui7s5sZ4fWveX X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Jan 2002 04:36:03 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74026 JRR Tolkien's "The Hobbit" (1937) was a conscious allegory of the coming racial conflicts. The most obvious example is the Battle of Five Armies near the end. The hero of the story is Bilbo Baggins, the middle-class hobbit who represents England. He is assisted by a wizard and a troop of dwarves, all of whom have names drawn from Old Germanic mythology, and who therefore represent Germany. In the final battle, they are joined by the Elves; Tolkien's Elvish languages are based on Finnish and Welsh, proving that the Elves represent Scandinavians and Celts. They are further aided by the Eagles, which obviously represent the Americans. On the other side are the evil Goblins. Their meaning is revealed by studying their leader, Bolg son of Azog. The term AZOG clearly stands for Ashkenazic Zionist Occupation Government and BOLG for BOLshevik Government; the lesson is unmistakeable that world Communism is a spawn of Zionist conspiracy. The Battle of Five Armies is therefore an allegory of a racial conflict between the White race and the Jewish worldwide conspiracy. Although Tolkien correctly predicted Russian help for the White forces (Russia = bear = Beorn), he did not anticipate that this would happen under the Bolskevik government. At the time of The Hobbit's publication, Tolkien was a professor of modest means who needed to be careful to guard his career. For that reason, he was unwilling to take on publicly the British (A)ZOG and the Jewish-dominated Oxford establishment. That is why he never discussed openly the real meaning of The Hobbit. That meaning is clear enough, however, to White Xians who have been properly educated. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth. ###### From: mair_fheal@www.yahoo.com (morgan mair fheal) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:00:38 -0800 Organization: my office on the hunterstrand Message-ID: References: <3C2564BB.DB72C0E4@hers.com> <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!freenix!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!c21.ppp.tsoft.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74152 In article <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com>, jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com wrote: one suggestion include a header line like Followup-to: alt.politics.white-power, alt.religion.scientology ###### Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children From: Zorak References: <3C2564BB.DB72C0E4@hers.com> <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/4.06.22 NNTP-Posting-Host: news4 Date: 24 Jan 2002 07:37:00 -0600 Lines: 44 X-Authenticated-User: 3247810 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to You may also use our online abuse reporting from: http://www.newsfeeds.com/abuseform.htm X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!corp-news.newsgroups.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74095 Flame of the West wrote in news:3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com: > > JRR Tolkien's "The Hobbit" (1937) was a conscious allegory > of the coming racial conflicts. The most obvious example > is the Battle of Five Armies near the end. The hero of the > story is Bilbo Baggins, the middle-class hobbit who represents > England. He is assisted by a wizard and a troop of dwarves, > all of whom have names drawn from Old Germanic mythology, > and who therefore represent Germany. In the final battle, > they are joined by the Elves; Tolkien's Elvish languages are > based on Finnish and Welsh, proving that the Elves represent > Scandinavians and Celts. They are further aided by the Eagles, > which obviously represent the Americans. On the other side > are the evil Goblins. Their meaning is revealed by studying > their leader, Bolg son of Azog. The term AZOG clearly stands > for Ashkenazic Zionist Occupation Government and BOLG for > BOLshevik Government; the lesson is unmistakeable that world > Communism is a spawn of Zionist conspiracy. The Battle of > Five Armies is therefore an allegory of a racial conflict between > the White race and the Jewish worldwide conspiracy. Although > Tolkien correctly predicted Russian help for the White forces > (Russia = bear = Beorn), he did not anticipate that this would > happen under the Bolskevik government. > > At the time of The Hobbit's publication, Tolkien was a professor > of modest means who needed to be careful to guard his career. > For that reason, he was unwilling to take on publicly the British > (A)ZOG and the Jewish-dominated Oxford establishment. That > is why he never discussed openly the real meaning of The Hobbit. > That meaning is clear enough, however, to White Xians who have > been properly educated. > *Clap! clap! clap!* Ah yes! I just wonder how many neo-nazi/Christian Identity/KKKooks will take it seriously. Zorak ###### Lines: 6 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: elbereth315@aol.com (Elbereth315) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 25 Jan 2002 02:15:30 GMT References: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Message-ID: <20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!skynet.be!skynet.be!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74322 "Tolkien's Elvish languages are based on Finnish and Welsh, proving that the Elves represent Scandinavians and Celts." But isn't Finnish a Uralic language? Not at all related to Scandanavian languages. ###### From: "Pia Saari" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:53:33 -0500 Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnts2p21.uwaterloo.ca X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!torn!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74343 "Elbereth315" wrote in message news:20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com... > "Tolkien's Elvish languages are > based on Finnish and Welsh, proving that the Elves represent > Scandinavians and Celts." > > But isn't Finnish a Uralic language? Not at all related to Scandanavian > languages. Finno-Ugric (sp?). You're right - related to Estonian and a couple of Lapp dialects, and distantly to Hungarian, but not anything else at all. ###### From: mair_fheal@www.yahoo.com (morgan mair fheal) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:59:50 -0800 Organization: my office on the hunterstrand Message-ID: References: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!c13.ppp.tsoft.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74358 In article , "Pia Saari" wrote: >"Elbereth315" wrote in message >news:20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com... >> "Tolkien's Elvish languages are >> based on Finnish and Welsh, proving that the Elves represent >> Scandinavians and Celts." >> >> But isn't Finnish a Uralic language? Not at all related to Scandanavian >> languages. > >Finno-Ugric (sp?). You're right - related to Estonian and a couple of Lapp >dialects, and distantly to Hungarian, but not anything else at all. actually finnish is post-completion ###### From: jsavard@ecn.aSBLOKb.caNADA.invalid (John Savard) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Message-ID: <3c51677b.4898445@news.powersurfr.com> References: <3C2564BB.DB72C0E4@hers.com> <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 13 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:11:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.109.100.252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@powersurfr.com X-Trace: news-rep.ab.videon.ca 1011967794 24.109.100.252 (Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:09:54 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:09:54 MST Organization: Videon CableSystems Alberta Inc. Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!cy1!cy2!newsfeed.shawcable.com!news-rep.ab.videon.ca!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74335 On 24 Jan 2002 07:37:00 -0600, Zorak wrote, in part: >I just wonder how many neo-nazi/Christian Identity/KKKooks will take it >seriously. They're not the only ones who might be fooled by it. It is not obviously a parody - only knowing that he is a regular poster here makes it possible to realize it wasn't intended seriously. John Savard http://plaza.powersurfr.com/jsavard/index.html Have you read "Man's Unconquerable Mind" by Gilbert Highet yet? ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:12:51 -0800 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3C512193.67976841@erols.com> References: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com> Reply-To: jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYImQfsykdnRwMU5F9lShTMVuek4y6zeimhztp8GKILypAAWnBcIg/U X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jan 2002 21:55:26 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74435 Elbereth315 wrote: > But isn't Finnish a Uralic language? Not at all related to Scandanavian > languages. Well yes...but don't start picking apart my theory, or you'll make me start to doubt that The Hobbit was really a white supremacist tract. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth. ###### Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children From: Zorak References: <3C2564BB.DB72C0E4@hers.com> <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <3c51677b.4898445@news.powersurfr.com> User-Agent: Xnews/4.06.22 NNTP-Posting-Host: news4 Message-ID: <3c51d4e2_1@corp-news.newsgroups.com> Date: 25 Jan 2002 15:57:54 -0600 Lines: 26 X-Authenticated-User: 3247810 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. 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Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!corp-news.newsgroups.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:75244 jsavard@ecn.aSBLOKb.caNADA.invalid (John Savard) wrote in news:3c51677b.4898445@news.powersurfr.com: > On 24 Jan 2002 07:37:00 -0600, Zorak > wrote, in part: > >>I just wonder how many neo-nazi/Christian Identity/KKKooks will take it >>seriously. > > They're not the only ones who might be fooled by it. It is not > obviously a parody - only knowing that he is a regular poster here > makes it possible to realize it wasn't intended seriously. > Actually, that's not entirely true. I saw "White Bloke's" moronic post about the LOTR being the death knell for ZOG. Having read the messages in that thread, it was obvious FOTW's post had "troll" written all over it! The only other people who would take it seriously and pitch a hissy fit are the PC types (who I've had more than my share of fun winding up in the past). Zorak > John Savard > http://plaza.powersurfr.com/jsavard/index.html > Have you read "Man's Unconquerable Mind" by Gilbert Highet yet? > ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 05:31:35 -0800 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3C52AFB6.BA091A48@erols.com> References: <5znW7.15547$HW3.15518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <3c51677b.4898445@news.powersurfr.com> <3c51d4e2_1@corp-news.newsgroups.com> Reply-To: jsolinasNoSpam@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ++Ywzjpmq62ekhTLE0uG7WvNkpKISNr9vEEkuDCRVSgIT/cYqE1ch X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Jan 2002 10:30:52 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:74465 Zorak wrote: > > They're not the only ones who might be fooled by it. It is not > > obviously a parody - only knowing that he is a regular poster here > > makes it possible to realize it wasn't intended seriously. > > > Actually, that's not entirely true. I saw "White Bloke's" moronic post > about the LOTR being the death knell for ZOG. Having read the messages in > that thread, it was obvious FOTW's post had "troll" written all over it! > The only other people who would take it seriously and pitch a hissy fit are > the PC types (who I've had more than my share of fun winding up in the > past). True, although I regret sending it to alt.white-power or whatever it's called, since some there might take it seriously. It's safe enough in RABT since it starts with the absurd claim that The Hobbit is a "conscious allegory." -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth. ###### From: Ingeborg Denner Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:24:58 +0100 Organization: Siemens Business Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3C55350A.73F7B3BB@gmx.de> References: <3c2b18ca.380641@news.powersurfr.com> <3c3a3ef9$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <3c51677b.4898445@news.powersurfr.com> <3c51d4e2_1@corp-news.newsgroups.com> <3C52AFB6.BA091A48@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: r3292.erlf.siemens.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!bnewspeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!newsfeed.siemens.de!news.fth.sbs.de!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:75524 Flame of the West wrote: > > > True, although I regret sending it to alt.white-power or whatever it's > called, since some there might take it seriously. It's safe enough in > RABT since it starts with the absurd claim that The Hobbit is a > "conscious allegory." You know, you still half got me there. In the last two months I've read so many terminally clueless theories, critiques and commentaries on the LotR (book and movie) and Tolkien, that your parody seems only marginally more 'out there' than the essays in major newspapers. inge -- "I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way." - Robert Frost === -- Stories, RPG & stuff. ###### From: the_real_orius@hotmail.com (David Sulger) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: 28 Jan 2002 08:10:57 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3ac4908.0201280810.18223dff@posting.google.com> References: <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.129.124.89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1012234259 20962 127.0.0.1 (28 Jan 2002 16:10:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 2002 16:10:59 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:75355 Flame of the West wrote in message news:<3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com>... [snip all] Ok, this has got to be a troll or a parody of one. ###### From: the_real_orius@hotmail.com (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: 28 Jan 2002 08:14:05 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3ac4908.0201280814.22ae1bb2@posting.google.com> References: <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <20020124211530.01264.00000222@mb-cn.aol.com> <3C512193.67976841@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.129.124.89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1012234445 21039 127.0.0.1 (28 Jan 2002 16:14:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jan 2002 16:14:05 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:75382 Flame of the West wrote in message news:<3C512193.67976841@erols.com>... > Elbereth315 wrote: > > > But isn't Finnish a Uralic language? Not at all related to Scandanavian > > languages. > > Well yes...but don't start picking apart my theory, or you'll > make me start to doubt that The Hobbit was really a white > supremacist tract. Easily solved. We can have the dwarves represent both Germans and Scandinavians. After all the dwarf names in the Hobbit were taken from the Eddas, a Scandinavian work. ###### From: mair_fheal@yahoo.com (morgan mair fheal) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Tolkien's secret message to White Xian children Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:31:00 -0800 Organization: tos coyote Message-ID: References: <3c465d90@news.comindico.com.au> <3c47ab89@news.comindico.com.au> <3C47C69E.7C6C48F4@sun.ac.za> <3c48d806$1@news.comindico.com.au> <3C49C16E.D4CD6B1B@erols.com> <3c4cbd96@news.comindico.com.au> <3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com> <3ac4908.0201280810.18223dff@posting.google.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 11 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!c10.ppp.tsoft.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:75335 In article <3ac4908.0201280810.18223dff@posting.google.com>, the_real_orius@hotmail.com (David Sulger) wrote: > Flame of the West wrote in message news:<3C4FB914.98ECF7EB@erols.com>... > > [snip all] > > Ok, this has got to be a troll or a parody of one. is an ent a parody of a troll?