From: "Michael Mandziuk" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Director's Cut ? Lines: 11 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:49:31 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.99.115.244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sprint.ca X-Trace: newscontent-01.sprint.ca 1010101776 149.99.115.244 (Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:49:36 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:49:36 EST Organization: Sprint Canada Inc. Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!east1.newsfeed.sprint-canada.net!HME1-2.newsfeed.sprint.ca!newscontent-01.sprint.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69743 I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical release. The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a Hobbiton pub or something. Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. Mike ###### Reply-To: "The Smudge" <5mudgeski@clara.co.uk> From: "The Smudge" <5mudgeski@clara.co.uk> Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:57:01 -0000 Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Trace: a7d0388a858a04445b5797826392681106d8905006c364f0846872223c34efd4 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:57:08 GMT Message-ID: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> Lines: 15 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!skynet.be!skynet.be!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!iapetus Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69538 "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > More from Lothlorien I would hope. I've spent longer in fast food joints. It would be nice to see the friendship and relationship between the hobbits develop more prior to them getting to Bree. The film almost gives the impression Pippin and Merry tagged along for a laugh and didn't quite covey the bond that grew between them. ###### From: Jason Mulligan Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Message-ID: References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> Organization: - X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 Lines: 17 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 02:10:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.137.116.244 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1010110258 144.137.116.244 (Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:10:58 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:10:58 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69575 In article <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net>, 5mudgeski@clara.co.uk says... > > "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message > news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > > > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > > > > More from Lothlorien I would hope. I've spent longer in fast food joints. It > would be nice to see the friendship and relationship between the hobbits > develop more prior to them getting to Bree. Yeah. I'd defeinitely like to see more Lorien and Rivendell stuff. And more of Bree. ###### From: kentrel Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:28:02 +0000 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3C352142.9F18A951@mailandnews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rbhpc04.pub.hw.ac.uk (137.195.46.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1010114882 25354320 137.195.46.53 (16 [120122]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rbhpc04.pub.hw.ac.UK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69435 > The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a > Hobbiton pub or something. You know, I wondered about that scene. I know for the purposes of film they had to compress a lot of time, but we saw Bilbo leave during the party, a short scene with Gandalf away from the Shire, and then the next scene sees Frodo arriving home after a night out. Seemed like no time had passed at all... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ------------------------------------------------------------------- ###### From: kentrel Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:32:33 +0000 Lines: 39 Message-ID: <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rbhpc04.pub.hw.ac.uk (137.195.46.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1010115153 25286964 137.195.46.53 (16 [120122]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeeder.inwind.it!inwind.it!nntp.infostrada.it!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rbhpc04.pub.hw.ac.UK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69430 Jason Mulligan wrote: > > In article <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net>, > 5mudgeski@clara.co.uk says... > > > > "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message > > news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > > > > > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > > > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > > > > > > > More from Lothlorien I would hope. I've spent longer in fast food joints. It > > would be nice to see the friendship and relationship between the hobbits > > develop more prior to them getting to Bree. > > Yeah. I'd defeinitely like to see more Lorien and Rivendell stuff. And > more of Bree. > Also I hope they rework the Boromir scenes. He was a likeable and honorable character in the book but this trait didn't appear in the movie until his death. It was obvious from the outset that he was going to betray them. Boromir was a character I admired in the book and the protrayal of him when he joins the fellowship seems too unfair. While they're adding footage to the DVD version maybe they should consider cutting out some of the CGI shots. They were overused and because we saw so much of it, it was easy point out the parts where it looked fake. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ------------------------------------------------------------------- ###### From: "Steven Toney" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.216.20.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com 1010116047 ST000 64.216.20.57 (Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:47:27 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:47:27 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: [[PA@SJGQBSMBQ\YWBCB^]\@PJ_^PBQLGPQRZ_MHEQR@ETUCCNSKQFCY@TXDX_WHSVB]ZEJLSNY\^J[CUVSA_QLFC^RQHUPH[P[NRWCCMLSNPOD_ESALHUK@TDFUZHBLJ\XGKL^NXA\EVHSP[D_C^B_^JCX^W]CHBAX]POG@SSAZQ\LE[DCNMUPG_VSC@VJM Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:47:27 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr30.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69260 missing stuff like the barrow wight encounter and tom bombadil? "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will > contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical > release. > The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a > Hobbiton pub or something. > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > > Mike > > ###### From: argee@adelphia.net Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Message-ID: <3c354117.437879137@news1.news.adelphia.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 19 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:49:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.51.76.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@adelphia.net X-Trace: news1.news.adelphia.net 1010123362 24.51.76.36 (Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:49:22 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:49:22 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!router1.news.adelphia.net!news1.news.adelphia.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69677 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:49:31 -0500, "Michael Mandziuk" wrote: >I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will >contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical >release. >The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a >Hobbiton pub or something. >Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the >initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > >Mike > > There is still stuff from the trip from Bree to Weathertop that was cut. You can find stills at various sites wich show the 4 hobbits sloshing through the marshes swating at the mites/flies. ###### From: "Bluto" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Lines: 18 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 07:17:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.35.165.241 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.tampabay.rr.com 1010128630 65.35.165.241 (Fri, 04 Jan 2002 02:17:10 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 02:17:10 EST Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!news-post.tampabay.rr.com!typhoon.tampabay.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69874 According to John Rhys-Davies there will be more footage of Gimli and Legolas's friendship as well as Gimli's encounter with Galadriel "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will > contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical > release. > The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a > Hobbiton pub or something. > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > > Mike > > > ###### From: "Colin Lord" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Lines: 42 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:58:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.45.133.204 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1010138320 203.45.133.204 (Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:58:40 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:58:40 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69923 "kentrel" wrote in message news:3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com... > Jason Mulligan wrote: > > > > In article <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net>, > > 5mudgeski@clara.co.uk says... > > > > > > "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message > > > news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > > > > > > > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > > > > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. > > > > > > > > > > More from Lothlorien I would hope. I've spent longer in fast food joints. It > > > would be nice to see the friendship and relationship between the hobbits > > > develop more prior to them getting to Bree. > > > > Yeah. I'd defeinitely like to see more Lorien and Rivendell stuff. And > > more of Bree. > > > > Also I hope they rework the Boromir scenes. He was a likeable and > honorable character in the book but this trait didn't appear in the > movie until his death. It was obvious from the outset that he was going > to betray them. Boromir was a character I admired in the book and the > protrayal of him when he joins the fellowship seems too unfair. > > While they're adding footage to the DVD version maybe they should > consider cutting out some of the CGI shots. They were overused and > because we saw so much of it, it was easy point out the parts where it > looked fake. > And cut all/most of that collapsing bridge/stairs thing in Moria. Very dodgy Indiana Jones type stuff that just went on an on. ###### From: "Michael Martin" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:48:30 -0500 Lines: 23 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: wusmm111228-tsd.daytonoh.ncr.com Message-ID: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> X-Original-Trace: 4 Jan 2002 08:48:31 -0500, wusmm111228-tsd.daytonoh.ncr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ncrnews.daytonoh.ncr.com X-Trace: rpc1283.DaytonOH.NCR.COM 1010152115 ncrnews.daytonoh.ncr.com (4 Jan 2002 08:48:35 -0400) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!pullfeed!rpc1283.DaytonOH.NCR.COM Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69559 "Steven Toney" wrote in message news:jB9Z7.3624$Cp5.731852922@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > missing stuff like the barrow wight encounter and tom bombadil? Steve, please don't top post. In response to your wish for added scenes, Jackson did not film the Old Forest, Tom Bombadil or Barrow Downs scenes at all. It was decided at an early stage of the script writing process those scenes could be lifted out of the story, for reasons of pacing and time. However, in the early stages of production, Jackson expressed a desire to maybe go back and film the "missing" scenes from the books for an extended DVD release. As cool as that would be, I seriously doubt that will happen -- the effort needed to gather all the cast back to NZ for any length of time will probably be too great. -- Michael Martin http://magisterium.go.cc "Murdered by pirates is good!" ###### From: "Michael Kocher" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:30:40 -0900 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 33 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69604 "Michael Martin" wrote in message news:3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com... > "Steven Toney" wrote in message > news:jB9Z7.3624$Cp5.731852922@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > missing stuff like the barrow wight encounter and tom bombadil? > > Steve, please don't top post. > > In response to your wish for added scenes, Jackson did not film the Old > Forest, Tom Bombadil or Barrow Downs scenes at all. It was decided at an > early stage of the script writing process those scenes could be lifted out > of the story, for reasons of pacing and time. > > However, in the early stages of production, Jackson expressed a desire to > maybe go back and film the "missing" scenes from the books for an extended > DVD release. As cool as that would be, I seriously doubt that will > happen -- the effort needed to gather all the cast back to NZ for any length > of time will probably be too great. > > -- > Michael Martin > http://magisterium.go.cc > "Murdered by pirates is good!" > > Considering that that was the only "important" scene not filmed, it would only require the 4 hobbits to be brought back, and then someone to play Tom Bombadil. I think that PJ himself would be perfect as TB. ###### From: JRStern@gte.net (JRStern) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Message-ID: <3c365381.30010973@news.gte.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 18 X-Trace: /wLwTfHxuJPDzmpqUV7GLZZsp4s141QdwjxDev99QVlayGyLAtsM+0IIhfke2B6t/VO6I3Z0TYi5!eJz/il4W6GnbItoMQlPluQpnxMwJybmw9JZXIPNw2tZ7jFxg7M1OGpzi5bmaUC8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 01:17:53 GMT Distribution: world Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 01:17:53 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!feedwest.news.agis.net!aleron.net!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!paloalto-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69287 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:49:31 -0500, "Michael Mandziuk" wrote: >Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the >initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. There were a couple of scenes that looked like "short versions" in the flick, where I'm guessing longer ones already existed. Gotta go see it again, refresh the ol' memory. But besides the very obvious Lorien, maybe the chamber of marzabul before the troll, and several minor cuts in the Shire, I'm hoping the Council of Elrond can be more than a few declarations by Elrond. I'd like some more words out of Strider almost anywhere, and suspect they exist - like an explanation of athelas at Weathertop. I want to hear more about Lurtz' hopes and dreams -- I can just see the actor (was there an actor?) asking, "what's my motivation?". Heh-heh. J. ###### From: "J.P." Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:43:53 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69629 "Michael Mandziuk" wrote in message news:k66Z7.2157$da7.29753@newscontent-01.sprint.ca... > I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will > contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical > release. Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. I have read that Peter Jackson's initial "Dream Cut" of the film was about 4 hours and 45 minutes long, then that was cut down to about 4 hours, then finally to the 3-hour film we have all seen. I don't know if this is true, but if it is, then I am hoping that Peter Jackson's dream cut will be released on DVD. Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing his dream cut of the entire trilogy, even though it would be about 15 hours total. :) ###### From: "Steven Toney" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Lines: 35 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.216.20.57 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com 1010202525 ST000 64.216.20.57 (Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:48:45 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:48:45 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: TSUGWWWEAZUORTLZN[OJNW@@YJ_ZTB\MV@BT]_MIJQR@EPIB_VUKAH_[MTX\IS[K[NGYJJFNOFZR_G[BUNTAOQLFE^TEHRPI]PZZRP_BMDSFQFL_]CBHXRWCMDCUZAZN@D_AKMNLEI]MWHCSXL^]NNC__CZFGSGHYYXWPFG@SCAVA]\FT\@B\RDGENSUQS^M Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 03:48:45 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news.algonet.se!algonet!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!207.115.63.138!newscon04.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69266 What does top post mean?? sorry if I did it again I just reply to what I read "Michael Martin" wrote in message news:3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com... > "Steven Toney" wrote in message > news:jB9Z7.3624$Cp5.731852922@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > missing stuff like the barrow wight encounter and tom bombadil? > > Steve, please don't top post. > > In response to your wish for added scenes, Jackson did not film the Old > Forest, Tom Bombadil or Barrow Downs scenes at all. It was decided at an > early stage of the script writing process those scenes could be lifted out > of the story, for reasons of pacing and time. > > However, in the early stages of production, Jackson expressed a desire to > maybe go back and film the "missing" scenes from the books for an extended > DVD release. As cool as that would be, I seriously doubt that will > happen -- the effort needed to gather all the cast back to NZ for any length > of time will probably be too great. > > -- > Michael Martin > http://magisterium.go.cc > "Murdered by pirates is good!" > > ###### Message-ID: <3C36DA32.CB3E49FC@pleiades.8m.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:49:22 +1100 From: John P Darcy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.142.203.242 X-Trace: 1010227798 15985 198.142.203.242 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.118.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69416 Michael Mandziuk wrote: > > I read in EW that Jackson is guessing that the DVD version of FOTR will > contain approximately 30-35 minutes of footage not seen in the theatrical > release. > The only specific cut scene he referred to was Frodo and CO. partying in a > Hobbiton pub or something. > Any thoughts on to what else might be on the cutting room ? More with the > initial Strider encounter for one I might guess. Much, much more in Lothlorien. More between the fellowship members in their boats. Explanations of Boromir's, Legolas's and Gloin's arrivals at Rivendell. Scene where Aragorn gets a new sword and a CGI-reconstructed Desmond Llewellyn explains its special features and warns him to return it to Rivendell in one piece. Aragorn responds with a witty line, and in the background several elves are seen testing other gadgets (bows, short swords, inflatable mithril coats, etc). -- Cheers John ###### Message-ID: <3C36DB6A.745E45E8@pleiades.8m.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:54:34 +1100 From: John P Darcy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? References: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.142.203.242 X-Trace: 1010228113 15987 198.142.203.242 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.118.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69403 Steven Toney wrote: > > What does top post mean?? "Top post" means posting your reply at the top. Correct procedure is to delete all of the original message except the part required for context, and post your reply underneath. > sorry if I did it again > > I just reply to what I read Where you are replying to different parts of the original with separate specific points, you can intersperse the quotes and your original as I have done right here. Posting in this manner - ie, snipping and adding new material at the bottom, not top - saves the length of each message and allows people to follow the thread more easily. Placing your new material at the top is a pain, because it is not obvious exactly what you are replying to ... and nobody needs the entire original message quoted back at them because if they really wanted to read it they could simply go to that message itself. -- Cheers John ###### Message-ID: <3C36DBD8.416EE43C@pleiades.8m.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:56:24 +1100 From: John P Darcy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.142.203.242 X-Trace: 1010228223 15987 198.142.203.242 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.118.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69407 "J.P." wrote: > > Heck, I wouldn't mind > seeing his dream cut of the entire trilogy, even though it would be about 15 > hours total. :) Jackson's Ring would still be shorter than Wagner's Ring :) -- Cheers John ###### From: Arwen Lune Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:57:50 +0100 Organization: Sith Academy Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp20-99-166-62.dialup.zonnet.nl (62.166.99.20) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1010228246 25462011 62.166.99.20 (16 [74898]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeeder.inwind.it!inwind.it!nntp.infostrada.it!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!ppp20-99-166-62.dialup.zonnet.NL!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69672 Via mysterious ways, a message from Steven Toney reached me on Sat, 05 Jan 2002 03:48:45 GMT. This is what it read: > What does top post mean?? > > sorry if I did it again > > I just reply to what I read A good post is placing the text in the order of reading. If you reply to stuff, your next texts goes *under* the older. Like I did here. First your post (and I have snipped all other things because your top post makes it into an incoherent mumble of attributions and quoted lines) then my reply. It's really not all that difficult, even if you do used Outlook Express. Just put the cursor underneath the quoted text. Darth Arwen -- "Bother" said Pooh. "They have a cave troll!" Arwen Lune | Arwen@meanandevil.co.uk | www.cuteandfluffy.co.uk ###### From: fredfighter@iwon.com (Fred the Red Shirt) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: 5 Jan 2002 08:44:16 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 53 Message-ID: <7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com> References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.116.23.133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1010249056 21611 127.0.0.1 (5 Jan 2002 16:44:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2002 16:44:16 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69771 Spoilers, sort of, of course. "Colin Lord" wrote in message news:... > "kentrel" wrote in message > news:3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com... > > > > > Also I hope they rework the Boromir scenes. He was a likeable and > > honorable character in the book but this trait didn't appear in the > > movie until his death. I though some of his nobility and courage showed through, especially in Moria. > > It was obvious from the outset that he was going > > to betray them. Yes, though haveing read the book a half dozen times I might have been a bit sensitive here. > > Boromir was a character I admired in the book and the > > protrayal of him when he joins the fellowship seems too unfair. Overall I liked his portrayal. > > > > While they're adding footage to the DVD version maybe they should > > consider cutting out some of the CGI shots. They were overused and > > because we saw so much of it, it was easy point out the parts where it > > looked fake. > > > > And cut all/most of that collapsing bridge/stairs thing in Moria. Very dodgy > Indiana Jones type stuff that just went on an on. Oh Elbereth yes! That part sucked. Also they could cut out all the scenes at Isenguard after Gandalf left, and about half the scenes of Gandalf and Saruman together. Christopher Lee was great, the description of what was going on at Isenguard closely matched what was alluded to in the book but it still sucked. Watching an Uruk- Hai crawling up out of a mudhole (what was he doing down there anyhow) was just tedious and gross. Also cut out the introductory sequence, to the point where Gollum finds the ring and start the movie there. Let the audience wonder a bit about just how important the ring is and what it's history was. Let there be a little mystery. Then at the council of Elrond, put some of it back in, but leave out the part where Isulder slays Sauron BY cutting off his fingers. -- FF ###### From: "Andrew Fenton" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:14:52 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> <7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 13 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!isdnet!sn-xit-02!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69600 "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message news:7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com... > Also cut out the introductory sequence, to the point where Gollum > finds the ring and start the movie there. Let the audience wonder > a bit about just how important the ring is and what it's history > was. Let there be a little mystery. Then at the council of Elrond, > put some of it back in, but leave out the part where Isulder slays > Sauron BY cutting off his fingers. Ahhh, that was his finger? I thought Isildur had cunningly slain the big guy by chopping off his manhood. ###### From: Boris Badenov Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:21:33 -0500 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-421.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69741 On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:43:53 -0600, "J.P." wrote: |Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. I have read that Peter Jackson's |initial "Dream Cut" of the film was about 4 hours and 45 minutes long, then |that was cut down to about 4 hours, then finally to the 3-hour film we have |all seen. I don't know if this is true, but if it is, then I am hoping that |Peter Jackson's dream cut will be released on DVD. Heck, I wouldn't mind |seeing his dream cut of the entire trilogy, even though it would be about 15 |hours total. :) Abso-friggin-lutely!! ###### From: Boris Badenov Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:21:34 -0500 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <68ce3ug5t10d1aqhc8jkuoscnhojdk94h4@4ax.com> References: <3C36DBD8.416EE43C@pleiades.8m.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-422.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69801 On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:56:24 +1100, John P Darcy wrote: |Jackson's Ring would still be shorter than Wagner's Ring :) And, a good deal more entertaining.... ###### From: fredfighter@iwon.com (Fred the Red Shirt) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: 5 Jan 2002 13:39:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 21 Message-ID: <7b50982e.0201051339.7a8122bd@posting.google.com> References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> <7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.244.80.179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1010266755 27805 127.0.0.1 (5 Jan 2002 21:39:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2002 21:39:15 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70114 "Andrew Fenton" wrote in message news:... > "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message > news:7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com... > > > Also cut out the introductory sequence, to the point where Gollum > > finds the ring and start the movie there. Let the audience wonder > > a bit about just how important the ring is and what it's history > > was. Let there be a little mystery. Then at the council of Elrond, > > put some of it back in, but leave out the part where Isulder slays > > Sauron BY cutting off his fingers. > > Ahhh, that was his finger? I thought Isildur had cunningly slain the big guy > by chopping off his manhood. No no, not that kind of ring. You betcha Frodo is glad it wasn't too! -- FF ###### From: ed Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:44:42 +0000 Organization: Team Rodent Approved: Apparently Message-ID: <95se3ucmqkhnvec2k956sn80mk9icno8nr@4ax.com> References: <3c35b2af$1@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com> Reply-To: edhogg@equus.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: equus.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: equus.demon.co.uk:158.152.255.217 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1010266971 nnrp-13:6650 NO-IDENT equus.demon.co.uk:158.152.255.217 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!asynchrone!deine.net!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!equus.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70145 The noble "Steven Toney" spake on the day of Sat, 05 Jan 2002 03:48:45 GMT: >What does top post mean?? > >sorry if I did it again > >I just reply to what I read > The standard is to reply to a message after the message you are replying to. This makes it easier to read. Unfortunately Outlook, that virus exchange software masquerading as a news reader/emailer, arranges it so that top posting is the default. ed -- edhogg@equus.demon.co.uk | Dragons Rescued | _//// http://www.equus.demon.co.uk/ | Maidens Slain | o_/o /// For devilbunnies, Diplomacy, RPGs, | Quests P.O.A. | __\ ///__ Science-Fiction and other stuff | | <*> ###### Reply-To: "The Smudge" <5mudgeski@clara.co.uk> From: "The Smudge" <5mudgeski@clara.co.uk> Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien References: Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:01:20 -0000 Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Trace: 86344081fb38768709b4048ac98657b1666b5148350c80d47b9080683c3785c9 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 23:01:29 GMT Message-ID: <1010271689.17847.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> Lines: 25 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!skynet.be!skynet.be!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!iapetus Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70040 "Boris Badenov" wrote in message news:l5ce3u0actfd2dmr29ep576d4g3gg8ckn7@4ax.com... > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:43:53 -0600, "J.P." wrote: > > |Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. I have read that Peter Jackson's > |initial "Dream Cut" of the film was about 4 hours and 45 minutes long, then > |that was cut down to about 4 hours, then finally to the 3-hour film we have > |all seen. I don't know if this is true, but if it is, then I am hoping that > |Peter Jackson's dream cut will be released on DVD. Heck, I wouldn't mind > |seeing his dream cut of the entire trilogy, even though it would be about 15 > |hours total. :) > > Abso-friggin-lutely!! > Perhaps a 6 DVD box set collection of all three films with bonus adrenachrome capsules? ;o) ###### From: kurgan@modeemi.fi (Jouni Karhu) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:29:45 GMT Organization: Legion of Immortals Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3c379a6f.37071776@news.cc.tut.fi> References: <1010102228.403.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> <3C352251.22D147B9@mailandnews.com> <7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com> <7b50982e.0201051339.7a8122bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a7b.mtalo.ton.tut.fi X-Trace: news.cc.tut.fi 1010276823 12196 193.166.88.49 (6 Jan 2002 00:27:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tut.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:27:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.fi!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69989 On 5 Jan 2002 13:39:14 -0800, fredfighter@iwon.com (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote: >"Andrew Fenton" wrote in message news:... >> "Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message >> news:7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com... >> >> > Also cut out the introductory sequence, to the point where Gollum >> > finds the ring and start the movie there. Let the audience wonder >> > a bit about just how important the ring is and what it's history >> > was. Let there be a little mystery. Then at the council of Elrond, >> > put some of it back in, but leave out the part where Isulder slays >> > Sauron BY cutting off his fingers. >> >> Ahhh, that was his finger? I thought Isildur had cunningly slain the big guy >> by chopping off his manhood. > >No no, not that kind of ring. > >You betcha Frodo is glad it wasn't too! "The One Ampalang"? // JJ ###### From: majuko@uta.fi (Juhana Sadeharju) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of Tampere, Finland Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <7b50982e.0201050844.2c8de9ae@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kielo.uta.fi X-Trace: news.cc.tut.fi 1010313177 25945 153.1.1.10 (6 Jan 2002 10:32:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tut.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:32:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test63 (15 March 1998) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.fi!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:69961 Has anyone the screenplay/script available? I checked a couple of freely downloadable script sites but could not find Jackson's LOTR. Are there any plans to release the script with illustrations? Best regards, Juhana ###### From: Simon Smith Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Message-ID: References: <3C36DBD8.416EE43C@pleiades.8m.com> <68ce3ug5t10d1aqhc8jkuoscnhojdk94h4@4ax.com> Organization: Home Lines: 24 User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.50a (MsgServe/1.50) (RISC-OS/4.02) NewsHound/1.42 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:48:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.255.58.164 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 1010342930 62.255.58.164 (Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:48:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:48:50 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!simon_smith.lineone.net%Simon Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70305 In message <68ce3ug5t10d1aqhc8jkuoscnhojdk94h4@4ax.com> Boris Badenov wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:56:24 +1100, John P Darcy > wrote: > > |Jackson's Ring would still be shorter than Wagner's Ring :) > > And, a good deal more entertaining.... Well I can think of some people who would find that comment quite offensive :) (Not me, though I have to say, I would disagree. If, somehow, Wagner could have been resurrected to do the score for Jackson's film - now *that* would be a bit bouncy). Ruffles, Simon -- website e-mail http://www.symphonicdances.co.uk/ simon smith@lineone.net MSN: fourthconcerto@yahoo.co.uk ###### From: celaeno@shavenwookie.nospam.com (Celaeno) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Organization: Blueberry Pie Inc. Message-ID: <3c389322.14548251@news.world-online.no> References: <1010271689.17847.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 27 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:10:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.142.73.118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@world-online.no X-Trace: news.world-online.no 1010362248 213.142.73.118 (Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:10:48 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:10:48 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!ord2-feed1.news.digex.net!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news100.world-online.no!news100.world-online.no!news.world-online.no.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70805 You will not evade me, "The Smudge" <5mudgeski@clara.co.uk>: > >"Boris Badenov" wrote in message >news:l5ce3u0actfd2dmr29ep576d4g3gg8ckn7@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:43:53 -0600, "J.P." >wrote: >> >> |Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. I have read that Peter Jackson's >> |initial "Dream Cut" of the film was about 4 hours and 45 minutes long, >> |Heck, I wouldn't mind >> |seeing his dream cut of the entire trilogy, even though it would be about >> |15 hours total. :) >> >> Abso-friggin-lutely!! >> > >Perhaps a 6 DVD box set collection of all three films with bonus >adrenachrome capsules? ;o) *drools* (Eat your heart out, George "Greedo shot first in my vision" Lucas) Cel ###### From: celaeno@shavenwookie.nospam.com (Celaeno) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.fan.tolkien Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Organization: Blueberry Pie Inc. Message-ID: <3c38940c.14782383@news.world-online.no> References: <3C36DA32.CB3E49FC@pleiades.8m.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 22 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:10:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.142.73.118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@world-online.no X-Trace: news.world-online.no 1010362248 213.142.73.118 (Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:10:48 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:10:48 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!64.245.249.27.MISMATCH!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news100.world-online.no!news100.world-online.no!news.world-online.no.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70819 You will not evade me, John P Darcy : >Much, much more in Lothlorien. > >More between the fellowship members in their boats. > >Explanations of Boromir's, Legolas's and Gloin's arrivals at Rivendell. > >Scene where Aragorn gets a new sword and a CGI-reconstructed Desmond >Llewellyn explains its special features and warns him to return it to >Rivendell in one piece. Aragorn responds with a witty line, and in the >background several elves are seen testing other gadgets (bows, short >swords, inflatable mithril coats, etc). Also cut from Aragorn's scenes are all cheesy pickup lines aimed at both Arwen and Eowyn (nicknamed Easter Bunny for name-jokes) and the subsequent sex scenes, including a palatir call to the King on the day of his coronation, interrupting a 'tender' moment. Cel "My name is Longshanksh. Strider Longshanksh" ###### Lines: 6 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: dramtenor@aol.com (dramtenor) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 08 Jan 2002 16:45:23 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Director's Cut ? Message-ID: <20020108114523.07385.00000467@mb-fq.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:70737 >missing stuff like the barrow wight encounter and tom bombadil? I read that those sequences were never filmed, mostly because it doesn't figure into the story later on. SDC