Message-ID: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500 From: Mike Williams Reply-To: mike.williams@drexel.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: n2-132-88.dhcp.mcphu.edu X-Trace: 1 Aug 2001 15:39:48 -0400, n2-132-88.dhcp.mcphu.edu Organization: Drexel University Lines: 96 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feeds.jump.net!den-news-01.qwest.net!xavier.noc.drexel.edu!news.drexel.edu!n2-132-88.dhcp.mcphu.edu Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45573 I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something to add, please contact me. Mike Williams http://www.tolkiencollector.com 1. The Hobbit Gene. A cloned gene that apparently controls cell division in roots. (http://www.bio.uu.nl/~mcbroots/hobbit.htm). 2. Hobbit: The Higher Order Bit of a Byte, same as the high bit or meta bit. Computer memory teminology. (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/hobbit.html) 3. The Hobbit Compiler. ( http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/scheme/impl/scm/hobbit/0.html ) 4. Gandalf is a family of theorem provers, currently including versions for classical 1-st order logic, intuitionistic 1-st order logic, propositional linear logic and a subset of Martin Löf's type theory. (http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~tammet/gandalf/) 5. Gandalf Chess Program. (http://www.gambitsoft.net/_reviews/_progs/gandalf/english/readme.htm) 6. Gadalf Modems and other computer network communication devices. 7. Frodo, a Commodore 64 Emulator for virtually every PC system. (http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/FRMain.html). 8. Gandalf Airlines. This is an Italian Airlines. 9. The Hobbit Computer. I believe this was made in the USSR. It was a small computer that comes up for sale on Ebay from time to time. (http://www.hobbit.com.tr/) 10. Hobbit Breast Shells. These are used by nursing women to protect their nipples. I have no idea why they have this name. I guess the name Hobbit has a pleasant connotation. I actually bought a set of these. ( http://www.epinions.com/kifm-B-BEquip-NF-Nursing_Accessories-Medela_Hobbit_Breast_Shells ) 11. The Hobbit Boat (http://www.capecod.net/rivendell/hobbit.html) 12. The Hobbit Moped. Made by Honda. Nice moped that sells on Ebay from time to time. I have the sales brochure if you need a picture. 13. Gandalf, a Finnish Rock Group. This group is very well known and has done a number of CDs. 14. Hobbit's Glen Golf Course. I believe this is in Columbia, Maryland. (http://www.therousecompany.com/operation/commdevel/columbia-md/hobglen.html) 15. The Hobbit Daylily. Attractive flower. 16. The Hobbit Columbine Flower 17. Gollum Jade Plant. 18. The Shelob Orchid 19. The Hobbit Fighting Knife, made by Rekat. This was apparently designed by a guy whose nickname was "The Hobbit". The knife is very expensive and looks very mean. 20. The Hobbit Restaurant in Ocean City Maryland. I have eaten there before - good food. 21. Balrog, a Web Media Company (http://www.balrog.fi/index2.html) 22. The Balrog Oilers, a Swedish Professional Soccer Team (http://www.balrog.fi/index2.html). They have a great team logo with a growling Balrog. 23. The Hobbit House Bed and Breakfast in Hawaii (http://www.civicnet.org/webmarket/hawaii/hobbit/). 24. A pub in Southhampton England called, The Hobbit (http://www.addax.co.uk/hobbit/) ###### From: Finrod Felagund Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:58:21 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aca3624e.ipt.aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: pavlikad User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!msunews!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45586 On 8/1/01 4:42 PM, in article 3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu, "Mike Williams" wrote: > I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > to add, please contact me. > There is (or was) an Italian restaurant in Kalamazoo, MI called "Bilbo's". ###### From: Mercedes McTaggart Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:31:12 +0100 Organization: not much Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-384.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.uk (217.135.9.128) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 996697928 3589545 217.135.9.128 (16 [62434]) X-Orig-Path: spamfree.fsnet.co.uk!Mercedes X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!modem-384.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.UK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45627 In article <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu>, Mike Williams writes (snipped most): >10. Hobbit Breast Shells. These are used by nursing women to protect >their nipples. I have no idea why they have this name. I guess the >name Hobbit has a pleasant connotation. I actually bought a set of >these. I honestly thought you'd slipped this in as a spoof until I checked the URL... Now I know that "Balrog Wings - keep you dry the whole day through" really are just around the corner. Whatever next? "Bilbo bubble bath?; Legolas leg-warmers? "Boromir Balsam - when Viagra simply isn't powerful enough!?" My mind is completely boggled :-) Best wishes, Mercedes McTaggart ###### From: Mercedes McTaggart Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:32:35 +0100 Organization: not much Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-384.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.uk (217.135.9.128) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 996698008 3564941 217.135.9.128 (16 [62434]) X-Orig-Path: spamfree.fsnet.co.uk!Mercedes X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!uni-erlangen.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!modem-384.alakazam.dialup.pol.co.UK!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45628 In article , Mercedes McTaggart writes >I actually bought a set of >>these. P.S. I *WON'T* ask why Mercedes McTaggart ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: 02 Aug 2001 01:03:41 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 26 Message-ID: <6uofpz1iya.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 996707022 1886 10.0.3.2 (1 Aug 2001 23:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Aug 2001 23:03:42 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45656 Mike Williams writes: > a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > to add, please contact me. > > 3. The Hobbit Compiler. > ( > http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/scheme/impl/scm/hobbit/0.html > > 9. The Hobbit Computer. I believe this was made in the USSR. It was a > > small computer that comes up for sale on Ebay from time to time. > (http://www.hobbit.com.tr/) There is/was(?) also a hobbit microprocessor, also known as 92010. It was a stack based type design optimised for running C code. Build by AT&T. Ref: Byte Magazine, Feb 1903 page 169-176. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery ###### From: "Wayne Farmer" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:13:25 -0400 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 96 Message-ID: <9kak3j$e62$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: atl-tgn-yai-vty6.as.wcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01C11AE7.F2F82200" X-Trace: suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com 996725683 14530 216.192.199.6 (2 Aug 2001 04:14:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 04:14:43 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc03.blue.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45794 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C11AE7.F2F82200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Mike Williams" wrote in message = news:3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu... > > 8. Gandalf Airlines. This is an Italian Airlines. >=20 By gosh, he's right: http://www.gandalfair.com/ > 14. Hobbit's Glen Golf Course. I believe this is in Columbia, = Maryland. > = (http://www.therousecompany.com/operation/commdevel/columbia-md/hobglen.h= tml) I wonder if it's anywhere near "Gandalf's Restaurant & Pub" in = Frostburg, Maryland? Their web page is http://www.gandalfs.org/ . They = didn't go so far as to give cutesy names to their menu items; the = closest we get is: GANDALF'S REUBEN- A homemade soy-veggie-patty with lettuce, tomatoes, = sauerkraut, melted Swiss cheese and Russian dressing on our sourdough or = black bread... 5.25 There also used to be (perhaps still is) a little cafe on the North = Carolina Outer Banks named "Gandalf's"; I ate there way back in 1984. Wayne ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C11AE7.F2F82200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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By gosh, he's right:  http://www.gandalfair.com/

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I wonder if it's anywhere near "Gandalf's Restaurant & Pub" in=20 Frostburg, Maryland?  Their web page is http://www.gandalfs.org/ .&nbs= p; They=20 didn't go so far as to give cutesy names to their menu items; the = closest we get=20 is:
 
GANDALF'S REUBEN- A homemade soy-veggie-patty with = lettuce, tomatoes, sauerkraut, melted Swiss cheese and Russian dressing = on our=20 sourdough or black bread... 5.25
 
There also used to be (perhaps still is) a little cafe on the North = Carolina Outer Banks named "Gandalf's"; I ate there way back in = 1984.
 
Wayne

 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C11AE7.F2F82200-- ###### From: wrob Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 02:35:29 -0400 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3B68F4C4.4F07043D@erols.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <6uofpz1iya.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY+ZiVRU/5fMq+8BVor5bQwLsqVN06CYM6YsmOBr/Hu1fKEVq0lP+jq X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 06:33:42 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45658 Neil Franklin wrote: > > There is/was(?) also a hobbit microprocessor, also known as 92010. > It was a stack based type design optimised for running C code. > Build by AT&T. As seen on TV "Bywater 92010". Sorry... Couldn't resist... -Ber ###### From: the_shire@a_gated_community.com (Flesh And Wine) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Message-ID: <3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 21 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:28:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.179.40.130 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 996740933 216.179.40.130 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 04:28:53 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 04:28:53 EDT Organization: BestWeb (bestweb.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.voicenet.com!yellow.newsread.com!bad-news.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!POSTED.monger.newsread.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45711 On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: >I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they >are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > >a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from >LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something >to add, please contact me. > > >Mike Williams >http://www.tolkiencollector.com "Tales from the Gimli Hospital", a film made in 1988. Takes place in Gimli, Manitoba, Canada. I don't know if it's a fictional place or not, or if the Tolkien reference was intentional. "Bring me flesh; bring me wine" ###### From: "Matt Dragonfly Drury" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:01:13 -0400 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <9kbfeb$19g$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.120.103.137 X-Trace: suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com 996753675 1328 63.120.103.137 (2 Aug 2001 12:01:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 12:01:15 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45800 My friend's middle name is Arwen, and she's delightfully odd... -- Matt 8<=-- http://mattdrury.net/disclaim.htm ###### From: "Paul Shenton" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net> Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Lines: 36 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:03:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.100.73.207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news3.rdc2.on.home.com 996753799 24.100.73.207 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:03:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:03:19 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news3.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45756 "Flesh And Wine" wrote in message news:3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net... > On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Williams > wrote: > > >I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > >are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > > >a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > >LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > >to add, please contact me. > > > > > >Mike Williams > >http://www.tolkiencollector.com > > > "Tales from the Gimli Hospital", a film made in 1988. Takes place in > Gimli, Manitoba, Canada. I don't know if it's a fictional place or > not, or if the Tolkien reference was intentional. Gimli is a real place named after a character in the Edda by Snorri Sturluson. The place was originally founded by Icelanders who gave the place a name from Norse mythology. Tolkien borrowed the name Gimli from the Edda, as well as the names of all of the Dwarves in The Hobbit. Accordnigly, it is not in fact a Tolkien reference. You have put the cart before the horse. Paul. > > > "Bring me flesh; bring me wine" ###### From: "Jamie Armstrong" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:15:25 +0100 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9kbf99$en5$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-254.ballistic.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 996753513 15077 62.25.136.254 (2 Aug 2001 11:58:33 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 11:58:33 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45718 "Mike Williams" wrote in message news:3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu... > I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > to add, please contact me. > I remember a couple of years back we were driving down the A1 to a site, and we were overtaken* by a small sailing boat by the name of Smaug :) Jamie * - okay, so it was being towed on a trailer at the time... ###### From: "Öjevind Lång" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kbf99$en5$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Lines: 14 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:30:24 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.28.193 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 996759085 212.151.28.193 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:31:25 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:31:25 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!192.71.180.34!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45746 Jamie Armstrong hath written: [snip] >I remember a couple of years back we were driving down the A1 to a site, and >we were overtaken* by a small sailing boat by the name of Smaug :) Aww... how cute! That one really made me smile. Öjevind ###### From: poodleranch@yahoo.com (Bob) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: 2 Aug 2001 11:58:43 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3dfcb22a.0108021058.4ad26768@posting.google.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kak3j$e62$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.84.215.194 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 996778723 22927 127.0.0.1 (2 Aug 2001 18:58:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 18:58:43 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45788 > GANDALF'S REUBEN- A homemade soy-veggie-patty with lettuce, tomatoes, > sauerkraut, melted Swiss cheese and Russian dressing on our sourdough or > black bread... 5.25 > There is something wrong with Gandalf liking a soy veggie patty (not that there is anything wrong with soy-veggie-patty's ;) ). Bob ###### From: bnh@chem.ucla.edu (Bruce N. Hietbrink) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:28:40 -0700 Organization: UCLA Chemistry Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: houkdhcp247.chem.ucla.edu X-Trace: persian.noc.ucla.edu 996784123 16696 169.232.140.247 (2 Aug 2001 20:28:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ucla.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!houkdhcp247.chem.ucla.edu!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45775 In article <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu>, mike.williams@drexel.edu wrote: > I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > LOTR. I did some digging through _Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien_ (edited by Humphrey Carpenter, published in the US by Houghton Mifflin) because I remember there was a letter from Tolkien to a fan who wanted to name his cattle after Tolkien characters. Tolkien suggested some names. I can't find the letter, though. Does anyone know which one it was? I did find a letter from Tolkien regarding someone naming their cats after his books (letter 219). Also letter 258 refers to a hydrofoil built to cross the English Channel named Shadowfax. He wasn't happy with it. In the same letter he mentions that many people had named their houses things like Rivendell, Lorien, or Imladris. On this newsgroup we've had threads about people naming their pets after Tolkien names. Wasn't there a racehorse names Shadowfax? Of course other fantasy and sci-fi have had references to Tolkien. The TV series Babylon 5, for instance, had a character named Lorien and one character paraphrased Gandalf's line about not meddling in the affairs of wizards. The Gandalf airline and some of the restaurants make me wonder whether Gandalf (or maybe Gandolfini) is not just an Italian name with no connection to Tolkien? If so, citing all of those might be like citing every Sam or Tom out there as a Tolkien reference. Bruce ###### From: Buts Lieven Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: 2 Aug 2001 20:47:23 GMT Organization: Brussels Free University (VUB) Lines: 22 Message-ID: <9kce8r$mrg$1@snic.vub.ac.be> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mach.vub.ac.be X-Trace: snic.vub.ac.be 996785243 23408 134.184.129.3 (2 Aug 2001 20:47:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@snic.vub.ac.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 20:47:23 GMT User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980514 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.7 (sun4u)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!naxos.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!snic.vub.ac.be!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45687 Mike Williams wrote: : I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they : are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have : a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from : LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something : to add, please contact me. [snip list] There is also Turbo-Frodo, a program used by protein crystallographers to view and edit three-dimensional structures of biological macro- molecules (mainly proteins). The homepage is at http://afmb.cnrs-mrs.fr/TURBO_FRODO/ As the name indicates, it is an updated, faster version of the older program FRODO. -- Lieven Buts Brussels Free University ###### From: stephen@nomail.msu.edu Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: 2 Aug 2001 22:34:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 14 Sender: stephen Message-ID: <9kckii$2e9b$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cse.msu.edu User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.8 (sun4u)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!msunews!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45727 Finrod Felagund wrote: : There is (or was) an Italian restaurant in Kalamazoo, MI called "Bilbo's". I have never been to the Bilbo's in Kalamazoo, but I used to hang out at the Bilbo's in East Lansing, Michigan. I would not describe it as an Italian restaurant. They did have pretty good pizza, and for awhile they served the best (meaning strongest) Long Island Iced Teas in town. The waitstaff tended to be "interesting", often tattooed and pierced, and the clientele were often equally "interesting". They served sandwiches, the names of which were passages from, or inspired by, the LotR. Sadly, it closed a year or so ago. Stephen ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names From: amarantha@today.com.au (Amarantha) References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> User-Agent: Xnews/4.01.30 NNTP-Posting-Host: jlpc.its.rmit.edu.au Message-ID: <3b69e6d1$1@mercury.its.rmit.edu.au> Date: 3 Aug 2001 09:48:33 +1100 X-Trace: 3 Aug 2001 09:48:33 +1100, jlpc.its.rmit.edu.au Lines: 17 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news1.optus.net.au!optus!vrn.edu.au!131.170.8.18.MISMATCH!mercury.its.rmit.edu.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45734 bnh@chem.ucla.edu (Bruce N. Hietbrink) wrote in : >Of course other fantasy and sci-fi have had references to Tolkien. >The TV series Babylon 5, for instance, had a character named Lorien >and one character paraphrased Gandalf's line about not meddling >in the affairs of wizards. > Oh, that reminds me, Tori Amos' new baby's middle name is Lorien. And that meddling line is paraphrased in my sig as well... K -- Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste like chicken. www.petronella.com.au ###### From: wrob Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:09:10 -0400 Lines: 35 Message-ID: <3B69DD8B.37AA48A1@erols.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYLy4Fu/kDDVC3q/aE/AhdYnEALyVr6rbK5lXaVEF9V0uxVj2kYLi0E X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 23:06:52 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45665 Paul Shenton wrote: > > "Flesh And Wine" wrote in message > news:3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net... > > On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Williams > > wrote: > > > > >I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > > >are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > > > > >a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > > >LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > > >to add, please contact me. > > > > > > > > >Mike Williams > > >http://www.tolkiencollector.com > > > > > > "Tales from the Gimli Hospital", a film made in 1988. Takes place in > > Gimli, Manitoba, Canada. I don't know if it's a fictional place or > > not, or if the Tolkien reference was intentional. > > Gimli is a real place named after a character in the Edda by Snorri > Sturluson. The place was originally founded by Icelanders who gave the > place a name from Norse mythology. Tolkien borrowed the name Gimli from the > Edda, as well as the names of all of the Dwarves in The Hobbit. > > Accordnigly, it is not in fact a Tolkien reference. You have put the cart > before the horse. But it might be intriguing to Wired magazine nevertheless! Give them some sense of the depth of the storyline perhaps. -Ber ###### From: wrob Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:12:24 -0400 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3B69DE4D.E21A73B7@erols.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kce8r$mrg$1@snic.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb29NP7NCc83GqKixm+rdsa7iO4vQ0DsKbBFv/Atq6O28cmEhpjq8yx X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 23:10:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45666 Buts Lieven wrote: > > Mike Williams wrote: > : I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > : are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > : a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > : LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > : to add, please contact me. > [snip list] > > There is also Turbo-Frodo, a program used by protein crystallographers Actually, this sounds like a great name for a character in the upcoming Anime version of the LOTR. :-b -Ber ###### From: hayesstw@yahoo.com (Steve Hayes) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:46:11 GMT Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3b6a1c84.35005686@news.saix.net> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> Reply-To: hayesstw@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppr53-03-p73.nt.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 996810501 6690 155.239.196.73 (3 Aug 2001 03:48:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2001 03:48:21 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news1.ebone.net!news.ebone.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!btnet-peer!btnet-peer0!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45691 On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: >I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they >are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > >a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from >LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something >to add, please contact me. There's a truck that goes round Pretoria with "Lothlorien Waste" painted on the side. Collects rubbish. Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesstw@yahoo.com Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/litmain.htm ###### Message-ID: <3B6A3257.EFF2006E@qnet.com> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:10:47 -0700 From: Elizabeth Sorg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 56k-socal-03-09.dial.qnet.com X-Trace: 3 Aug 2001 04:52:43 GMT, 56k-socal-03-09.dial.qnet.com Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!newsfeed.qnet.com!news.qnet.com!56k-socal-03-09.dial.qnet.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45825 The grey horse up the street from me is named Shadowfax... "Bruce N. Hietbrink" wrote: > In article <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu>, mike.williams@drexel.edu wrote: > > > I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > > are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > > LOTR. > > I did some digging through _Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien_ (edited by Humphrey > Carpenter, published in the US by Houghton Mifflin) because I remember > there was a letter from Tolkien to a fan who wanted to name his cattle > after Tolkien characters. Tolkien suggested some names. I can't find the > letter, though. Does anyone know which one it was? > > I did find a letter from Tolkien regarding someone naming their cats > after his books (letter 219). Also letter 258 refers to a hydrofoil built > to cross the English Channel named Shadowfax. He wasn't happy > with it. In the same letter he mentions that many people had named > their houses things like Rivendell, Lorien, or Imladris. > > On this newsgroup we've had threads about people naming their > pets after Tolkien names. Wasn't there a racehorse names Shadowfax? > > Of course other fantasy and sci-fi have had references to Tolkien. > The TV series Babylon 5, for instance, had a character named Lorien > and one character paraphrased Gandalf's line about not meddling > in the affairs of wizards. > > The Gandalf airline and some of the restaurants make me wonder > whether Gandalf (or maybe Gandolfini) is not just an Italian name > with no connection to Tolkien? If so, citing all of those might be like > citing every Sam or Tom out there as a Tolkien reference. > > Bruce ###### From: "Matt Dragonfly Drury" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:47:19 -0400 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9ke309$o3o$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.120.103.137 X-Trace: suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com 996839241 24696 63.120.103.137 (3 Aug 2001 11:47:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2001 11:47:21 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45790 > pets after Tolkien names. Wasn't there a racehorse names Shadowfax? And a jazz band. -- Matt 8<=-- http://mattdrury.net/disclaim.htm ###### From: "Don March" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:57:49 -0400 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <9kehor$gra$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kak3j$e62$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZmG1VlAo86OT3eDaPXhYS3OJbieXnJQ+U0M8cB+5kW3B+5w1SN82Gc X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2001 15:59:23 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45714 > 14. Hobbit's Glen Golf Course. I believe this is in Columbia, Maryland. > (http://www.therousecompany.com/operation/commdevel/columbia-md/hobglen.html ) I wonder if it's anywhere near "Gandalf's Restaurant & Pub" in Frostburg, Maryland? Their web page is http://www.gandalfs.org/ . They didn't go so far as to give cutesy names to their menu items; the closest we get is: No, Columbia and Frostburg are about 150 miles away from each other. Do you know if the restaurant is part of Frostburg State University? ###### From: "Don March" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:01:59 -0400 Lines: 4 Message-ID: <9kei0l$hr2$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZWZcJ8F+cT4YVf4+BXdGtyaaAgHm2ya2+SK1Mwtl6Rzy7YBY/JaUUG X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Aug 2001 16:03:33 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!opentransit.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45701 The boxer character in Street Fighter II is named Balrog. In the Japanese version Balrog is the name given to Vega (the Spanish guy with steel claws). ###### From: "Öjevind Lång" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b6a1c84.35005686@news.saix.net> Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Lines: 14 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <_nBa7.7826$5t1.13474@nntpserver.swip.net> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:41:18 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.26.240 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 996860538 212.151.26.240 (Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:42:18 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:42:18 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!192.71.180.34!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45747 Steve Hayes hath written: [snip] >There's a truck that goes round Pretoria with "Lothlorien Waste" painted on >the side. > >Collects rubbish. Please tell me you are joking. [:o Öjevind ###### From: bnh@chem.ucla.edu (Bruce N. Hietbrink) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:51:35 -0700 Organization: UCLA Chemistry Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kei0l$hr2$1@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: houkdhcp247.chem.ucla.edu X-Trace: persian.noc.ucla.edu 996868298 13482 169.232.140.247 (3 Aug 2001 19:51:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ucla.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!houkdhcp247.chem.ucla.edu!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45841 In article <9kei0l$hr2$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Don March" wrote: > The boxer character in Street Fighter II is named Balrog. In the Japanese > version Balrog is the name given to Vega (the Spanish guy with steel claws). Of course, the most important questions to all of us is whether these characters have wings and/or pink fuzzy slippers. Bruce ###### From: "Wayne Farmer" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:33:02 -0400 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: <9kg1h1$m8p$1@suaar1ac.prod.compuserve.com> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kak3j$e62$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com> <9kehor$gra$1@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atl-tgn-yfy-vty1.as.wcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: suaar1ac.prod.compuserve.com 996903265 22809 216.192.208.1 (4 Aug 2001 05:34:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 2001 05:34:25 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc03.blue.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45882 "Don March" wrote in message = news:9kehor$gra$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > > 14. Hobbit's Glen Golf Course. I believe this is in Columbia, = Maryland. > > > = (http://www.therousecompany.com/operation/commdevel/columbia-md/hobglen.h= tml > ) >=20 > I wonder if it's anywhere near "Gandalf's Restaurant & Pub" in = Frostburg, > Maryland? Their web page is http://www.gandalfs.org/ . They didn't = go so > far as to give cutesy names to their menu items; the closest we get = is: > >=20 > No, Columbia and Frostburg are about 150 miles away from each other. = Do you > know if the restaurant is part of Frostburg State University? Yahoo Maps tells me that the restaurant is in downtown Frostburg, about = 1 mile from the University. ###### From: hayesstw@yahoo.com (Steve Hayes) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 06:43:19 GMT Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3b6b8f13.2300784@news.saix.net> References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b6a1c84.35005686@news.saix.net> <_nBa7.7826$5t1.13474@nntpserver.swip.net> Reply-To: hayesstw@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppr53-04-p121.nt.saix.net X-Trace: ctb-nnrp1.saix.net 996907537 8299 155.239.198.121 (4 Aug 2001 06:45:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 2001 06:45:37 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.74.65.73.MISMATCH!btnet-peer0!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45852 On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:41:18 +0200, "Öjevind Lång" wrote: >Steve Hayes hath written: > >[snip] > >>There's a truck that goes round Pretoria with "Lothlorien Waste" painted on >>the side. >> >>Collects rubbish. > >Please tell me you are joking. [:o Unfortunately not -- it appeared once a week at the university where I worked. Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesstw@yahoo.com Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/litmain.htm ###### From: Edward John Schoenfeld Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 03:41:12 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kckii$2e9b$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.f9.6f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 4 Aug 2001 08:43:27 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45879 Bilbo's in Kalamazoo is still going strong. Ed > From: stephen@nomail.msu.edu > Organization: Michigan State University > Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien > Date: 2 Aug 2001 22:34:58 GMT > Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names > > Finrod Felagund wrote: > > : There is (or was) an Italian restaurant in Kalamazoo, MI called "Bilbo's". > > I have never been to the Bilbo's in Kalamazoo, but I used to hang > out at the Bilbo's in East Lansing, Michigan. I would not describe > it as an Italian restaurant. They did have pretty good pizza, > and for awhile they served the best (meaning strongest) Long Island > Iced Teas in town. The waitstaff tended to be "interesting", often > tattooed and pierced, and the clientele were often equally "interesting". > They served sandwiches, the names of which were passages from, or > inspired by, the LotR. Sadly, it closed a year or so ago. > > Stephen ###### From: "Jon Tuttle" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:06:59 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kckii$2e9b$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 40 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45869 There is another Bilbo's restaurant on Orcas Island in Washington State. This is a Mexican restaurant. I have eaten there. It has (or had in March, at any rate) good food and good service. Be advised it is a "healthy" Mexican restaurant. Purists may find it a bit "precious". Slim "Edward John Schoenfeld" wrote in message news:B7911F57.12051%ejschoenfeld@mindspring.com... > Bilbo's in Kalamazoo is still going strong. > > Ed > > > > > From: stephen@nomail.msu.edu > > Organization: Michigan State University > > Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien > > Date: 2 Aug 2001 22:34:58 GMT > > Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names > > > > Finrod Felagund wrote: > > > > : There is (or was) an Italian restaurant in Kalamazoo, MI called "Bilbo's". > > > > I have never been to the Bilbo's in Kalamazoo, but I used to hang > > out at the Bilbo's in East Lansing, Michigan. I would not describe > > it as an Italian restaurant. They did have pretty good pizza, > > and for awhile they served the best (meaning strongest) Long Island > > Iced Teas in town. The waitstaff tended to be "interesting", often > > tattooed and pierced, and the clientele were often equally "interesting". > > They served sandwiches, the names of which were passages from, or > > inspired by, the LotR. Sadly, it closed a year or so ago. > > > > Stephen > ###### From: brandallco@yahoo.com (Blando) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Date: 4 Aug 2001 14:08:14 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <9kckii$2e9b$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.202.182.37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 996959294 16604 127.0.0.1 (4 Aug 2001 21:08:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Aug 2001 21:08:14 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:45964 [I accidentally posted this as a new thread, and I've requested that the misplaced post/thread be deleted. Sorry!] One of the clusters of student dorms at the University of California, Irvine is known as the "Middle Earth Residence Halls." Students can live and work in Hobbiton, Rivendell, Mirkwood, etc. Take a gander at http://www.housing.uci.edu/ug/ME/mehome.html the Middle Earth student housing home page, where you can read up on the history, details, and going rates of these fine facilities. (A sample: "The halls are divided into theme areas and offer classes associated with their names.") There's also a student co-op at UC Berkeley called "Lothlorien," an all-vegetarian cooperative house which was (still is?) famous for its "Elves," hot tub, wild food orgies, and other licentiousness of which J.R.R. would not approve. You can peruse the lurid details at http://www.usca.org/housing/Loth.htm You can probably find stuff like this on university campuses all over the world. The Irvine student housing, though, seems to be as well-established and formalized as it gets. ---- The "Loth" food orgies involve nudity, music, physical contact, and food, but I'm not exactly sure in which order. ###### From: "Jon Hall" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net> Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Lines: 49 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: <9L3c7.787$Ki1.43708@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 05:04:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.83.16.114 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 997247045 12.83.16.114 (Wed, 08 Aug 2001 05:04:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 05:04:05 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:46124 "Paul Shenton" wrote in message news:bkba7.3328$Y6.1789055@news3.rdc2.on.home.com... > > "Flesh And Wine" wrote in message > news:3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net... > > On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Williams > > wrote: > > > > >I was recently contacted by and editor at Wired magazine because they > > >are doing a big story on the Lord of the Rings movie. He wanted to have > > > > > >a section on interesting non-Tolkien items that were given names from > > >LOTR. Below is the list I have found so far. If anyone has something > > >to add, please contact me. > > > > > > > > >Mike Williams > > >http://www.tolkiencollector.com > > > > > > "Tales from the Gimli Hospital", a film made in 1988. Takes place in > > Gimli, Manitoba, Canada. I don't know if it's a fictional place or > > not, or if the Tolkien reference was intentional. > > Gimli is a real place named after a character in the Edda by Snorri > Sturluson. The place was originally founded by Icelanders who gave the > place a name from Norse mythology. Tolkien borrowed the name Gimli from the > Edda, as well as the names of all of the Dwarves in The Hobbit. > > Accordnigly, it is not in fact a Tolkien reference. You have put the cart > before the horse. > > Paul. Just to be pedantic, I'll point out that Gimli in the Prose Edda is not, strictly speaking, a character: It's a place. It's a golden-roofed hall in Asgard where, possibly, righteous men go when they die. -- Jon Hall jon_hayley_hall@hotmail.com "I don't understand anything, so there you go." --Bill Hicks ###### Reply-To: "Silver Phoenix" From: "Silver Phoenix" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> <3b69104a.1137614@nntp.bestweb.net> Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 19:03:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.216.210.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tele2.no X-Trace: juliett.dax.net 997297416 193.216.210.59 (Wed, 08 Aug 2001 21:03:36 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 21:03:36 MET DST Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.54.122.107!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!uio.no!193.216.69.35.MISMATCH!dax.net!juliett.dax.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:46509 I'm working as an extra hand on a farm, and there are some tractor(the big things that drive around pulling, shoving and lifting things)-equipment that bears the name 'Underhaug'. Now Underhaug means translated from Norwegian 'Underhill'. I really don't think it's called that because of Tolkien's book, but hey. It's still sort of an odd thing given a Tolkien name. Silver ###### Message-ID: <3B7729F1.9CEFF934@home.com> From: Mike Williams Reply-To: jmike999@home.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Odd Things Given Tolkien Names References: <3B6869C5.D512FC3A@drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:19:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.23.73.154 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.pa.home.com 997665598 24.23.73.154 (Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:19:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:19:58 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!pinatubo.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.pa.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:47517 I guess I had to have a complete collection of "everything Tolkien". Mike Mercedes McTaggart wrote: > In article , Mercedes McTaggart > writes > >I actually bought a set of > >>these. > > P.S. I *WON'T* ask why > Mercedes McTaggart