From: "Thorsten Heil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:33:10 +0100 Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Lines: 14 Message-ID: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns001.hiserv.com X-Trace: crusher.de.colt.net 979137199 771 149.250.222.140 (10 Jan 2001 14:33:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1.de.colt.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:33:19 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news0.de.colt.net!news1.de.colt.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31032 Hi! I am looking for a nice english Hardcover Edition of the Lord of the Rings triology (no matter if boxed or not). I saw that many different Editions exist, some with illustrations from Lee for example or one "Millenium Edition". Perhaps does someone of you own one of these or another Hardcover Edtion (I guess you do ;-) and can make a recommendation. Please answer also to my eMail address. Thank you. ###### From: Meneldil Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:25:12 GMT Organization: Deja.com Lines: 74 Message-ID: <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.82.103.38 To: thh@bigfoot.com X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 10 20:25:12 2001 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT; University of East Anglia) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 wwwcache1.uea.ac.uk:8080 (Squid/2.2.STABLE4), 1.0 mozzarella.ulcc.wwwcache.ja.net:8080 (Squid/2.2.STABLE5-hno.20000103), 1.0 x59.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 139.222.126.112, 139.222.128.2, 194.82.103.38 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDmeneldil Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31030 In article <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net>, "Thorsten Heil" wrote: > Perhaps does someone of you own one of these or another Hardcover > Edtion (I > guess you do ;-) and can make a recommendation. > It really depends on what you're looking for! The options AFAIK for hardcover sets are (with approximate prices and my tuppence-worth of comments): 1. The one-volume Harper Collins edition (about £25) 2. The three-volume Harper Collins edition (about £50 boxed and £48 if bought individually) I think the one-volume edition has some notes which the three-volume edition doesn't, but I'm not sure. Frankly, I prefer three volumes because it's easier to handle. This is IMHO OK as a "family copy" - more durable than the paperbacks! 3. The "Millennium Edition" (seven volumes, about £39.99) This splits up each original volume of the trilogy into two parts, so each book of the LoTR has its own volume, with the appendices forming a seventh volume. Quite a sturdy set, looks good, and I think it could probably be used for "family reading". IIRC, it also comes with an Audio CD of JRRT reading excerpts from the LoTR, which is excellent. This would IMHO be the ideal combination of a well produced edition which can also be regularly read. Not, however, readily available. 4. The Alan Lee Illustrated Edition (about £40 for the one volume hardback) This is AFAIK the same text as the standard edition, with the addition of Alan Lee's illustrations. Alan Lee's isn't exactly my favourite illustrator - however, many rather like his work. You should probably take a look at his pictures (available on the web - try a Google search) before deciding on whether you want this edition. 5. The "Deluxe Edition" reprint (one volume, about £100) This was originally issued as a limited edition of 1000 copies, but has now been reprinted. Looks fantastic - black clothbound, leather spine, gilt edged pages, etc. The paper's feels a bit thin, but it's very sturdy. Also b****y expensive at £100.00. I'd recommend this if you want something to keep on your bookshelf, and occasionally refer to, and it's a must for a serious collector. However, if you're looking to buy a "family" copy for you and your progeny to read and re-read, I wouldn't recommend this edition. It will probably withstand heavy use, but IMHO it's intended to be a "collection piece". 4. The Folio Society Edition (three volumes, about £85) This is my favourite edition - it has Eric Fraser's illustrations based on Ingahild Grathmer's sketches (I like them), is beautifully produced (green spine, gilt lettered), and sturdy. However, it is again b****y expensive. I'd select this over the Deluxe Edition as a collection piece (I'd again not use this for regular reading), but not all might agree. Hope this helps. Any other suggestions, anyone? (esp. Comrade Wells, if he's here, given his amazing collection of LoTR editions) Cheers, Meneldil Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ###### From: the_mendicant Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:00:30 GMT Organization: Deja.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.150.251.50 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 11 19:00:30 2001 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x65.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.150.251.50 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDthe_mendicant Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!205.231.236.10!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31050 Meneldil wrote: >Any other suggestions, anyone? What about the red, single-volume Collector's Edition (about $60 US) -- I'm thinking of buying it -- looks very much like the way I envisioned the Red Book of Westmarch... -- the_mendicant [gregbenedicto@hotmail.com] Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ###### Message-ID: <3A6C8FB4.667E40E7@uchicago.edu> From: Roberto Ullfig Organization: University of Chicago X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.135.99.44 X-Trace: uchinews 980193205 128.135.99.44 (Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:25 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:25 CST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:24 -0600 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31432 LESDL wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:00:30 GMT, the_mendicant > flexed fingers and pecked: > > >Meneldil wrote: > > > >>Any other suggestions, anyone? > > > >What about the red, single-volume Collector's Edition > >(about $60 US) -- I'm thinking of buying it -- looks > >very much like the way I envisioned the Red Book of > >Westmarch... > > It's a very nice volume, well-presented and well put together. > > As Meneldil suggested, it's not really ideal for actually reading the > whole story but it is nice to have as part of a collection. > I've read the Red Book edition three times through - no complaints with it (not too bulky) except for a few minor smudges in the text. That 7 book set sounds interesting but I read a review on amazon.com loudly denouncing it. Also, don't care much for the color. -- Roberto Ullfig : robo@suba.com ###### From: LESDL Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Organization: Tertiary Adjunct Of Unimatrix Zero One Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A6C8FB4.667E40E7@uchicago.edu> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:09:57 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.58.158.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net X-Trace: news.shore.net 980194082 209.58.158.13 (Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:08:02 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:08:02 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31477 On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:24 -0600, Roberto Ullfig squinted and tapped out: snip >> As Meneldil suggested, it's not really ideal for actually reading the >> whole story but it is nice to have as part of a collection. >> > >I've read the Red Book edition three times through - no >complaints with it (not too bulky) except for a few minor >smudges in the text. Ever been reading in bed with a big book and lose your grip? :-) > That 7 book set sounds interesting but I >read a review on amazon.com loudly denouncing it. Also, don't >care much for the color. I've not heard a good thing about that set. -- LESDL Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 ###### From: Rutgar Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:52:59 -0600 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: c7.ae.35.e2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 23 Jan 2001 00:43:29 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31419 On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:42:20 -0500, LESDL wrote: >On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:00:30 GMT, the_mendicant > flexed fingers and pecked: > >>Meneldil wrote: >> >>>Any other suggestions, anyone? >> >>What about the red, single-volume Collector's Edition >>(about $60 US) -- I'm thinking of buying it -- looks >>very much like the way I envisioned the Red Book of >>Westmarch... > >It's a very nice volume, well-presented and well put together. > >As Meneldil suggested, it's not really ideal for actually reading the >whole story but it is nice to have as part of a collection. I've read the Red Edition about a dozen times. I love they way it looks and feels. Personally, I can't imagine reading any other edition. - Rutgar ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:02:00 -0500 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3A6D1E57.77D69439@erols.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A6C8FB4.667E40E7@uchicago.edu> Reply-To: jsolinas@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZhsKipK4uKJRNCx20SO9FDx4JXUCMdz2WD9/DlV/d7nYPRdxr0JSlF X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Jan 2001 06:05:51 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.icl.net!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31416 LESDL wrote: > > That 7 book set sounds interesting but I > >read a review on amazon.com loudly denouncing it. Also, don't > >care much for the color. > > I've not heard a good thing about that set. It looks good on your shelf, it is convenient for travelling (only have to carry 1/7 rather than 1/3), and it comes with an excellent CD if you buy the Commonwealth edition. Moreover, it uses the six individual book titles rather than the artificial trilogy titles. Now you've heard four good things about it. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-Earth. ###### From: LESDL Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Organization: Tertiary Adjunct Of Unimatrix Zero One Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A6C8FB4.667E40E7@uchicago.edu> <3A6D1E57.77D69439@erols.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:00:30 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.58.158.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net X-Trace: news.shore.net 980261909 209.58.158.13 (Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:58:29 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:58:29 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31471 On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:02:00 -0500, Flame of the West squinted and tapped out: > >LESDL wrote: > >> > That 7 book set sounds interesting but I >> >read a review on amazon.com loudly denouncing it. Also, don't >> >care much for the color. >> >> I've not heard a good thing about that set. > >It looks good on your shelf, it is convenient for travelling >(only have to carry 1/7 rather than 1/3), and it comes with >an excellent CD if you buy the Commonwealth edition. >Moreover, it uses the six individual book titles rather than >the artificial trilogy titles. Now you've heard four good >things about it. Well ok, I lied. I had heard that if anything, it was worth it to get the CD that comes with that set. But, the several negative comments I've heard regarding the very poor quality of the construction (which I've seen myself) offsets the positive, for me at least. -- LESDL Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 ###### From: LESDL Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Organization: Tertiary Adjunct Of Unimatrix Zero One Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:01:43 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.58.158.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net X-Trace: news.shore.net 980261982 209.58.158.13 (Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:59:42 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:59:42 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31476 On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:52:59 -0600, Rutgar squinted and tapped out: snip >I've read the Red Edition about a dozen times. I love they way it >looks and feels. Personally, I can't imagine reading any other >edition. I agree that the esthetics are very nice. I happen to use it myself as a reference volume occasionally- it's easy to pull out and have everything right there in front of you. -- LESDL Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:44:17 -0500 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Reply-To: jsolinas@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbhLZ/bjS6yR8joGz0ok148tAyX2K2sC+SeZ+cYY6rLXfvSAp9DasSP X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Jan 2001 21:55:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31482 LESDL wrote: > LESDL > Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 That's quite an unusual sig you have there. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-Earth. ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com> Organization: Europa From: ronc@pacifier.com (Ron Christian) NNTP-Posting-Host: thetics.europa.com Message-ID: <3a6e11a8$1_1@news.nwlink.com> Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:20:08 -0800 X-Trace: 23 Jan 2001 15:20:08 -0800, thetics.europa.com Lines: 22 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!merapi!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.easynews.net!easynews.net!newsfeed.germany.net!news.tele.dk!199.60.229.5!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!uunet!lax.uu.net!sea.uu.net!newsfeed.nwlink.com!news.nwlink.com!ronc Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31497 In article <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com>, Flame of the West wrote: > >LESDL wrote: > > > >> LESDL >> Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 > >That's quite an unusual sig you have there. Stop in at rec.motorcycles.harley sometime and the meaning will become clear. Ron -- [www.europa.com/~ronc] "Denying minorities their God-given right to vote is a terrible, terrible crime. Unless they're Cuban immigrants, of course." -- Rev. Jessie Jackson (paraphrased) ###### From: brahms@mindspring.com (Stan Brown) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:41:53 -0500 Organization: Oak Road Systems Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.35.7e.f2 X-Server-Date: 24 Jan 2001 02:40:02 GMT X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.bme.hu!news.tele.dk!199.60.229.5!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31516 Quoth LESDL in rec.arts.books.tolkien: (about the big Red Book LotR) > >I agree that the esthetics are very nice. I happen to use it myself as >a reference volume occasionally- it's easy to pull out and have >everything right there in front of you. Is the pagination the same as the Centenary Edition with the Alan Lee illustrations? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com Tolkien FAQs: http://home.uchicago.edu/~sbjensen/Tolkien/ Encyclopedia of Arda: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm more FAQs: http://oakroadsystems.com/tech/faqget.htm ###### From: Flame of the West Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:22:27 -0500 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3A6E748B.A49CD718@erols.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Reply-To: jsolinas@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYVK0ZAg/MvA3wExeU09nlzwrLq8UxodAT8AxSSTSInRkuoz6nMZ0J4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Jan 2001 06:33:22 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31484 Stan Brown wrote: > (about the big Red Book LotR) > Is the pagination the same as the Centenary Edition with the Alan > Lee illustrations? Almost certainly not, since the Big Red Book was completely re-typeset. But I'll check tomorrow. -- -- FotW Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-Earth. ###### From: LESDL Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Organization: Tertiary Adjunct Of Unimatrix Zero One Message-ID: References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com> <3a6e11a8$1_1@news.nwlink.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:48:39 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.58.158.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net X-Trace: news.shore.net 980358393 209.58.158.13 (Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:46:33 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:46:33 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31510 On 23 Jan 2001 15:20:08 -0800, ronc@pacifier.com (Ron Christian) squinted and tapped out: >In article <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com>, >Flame of the West wrote: >> >>LESDL wrote: >> >> >> >>> LESDL >>> Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 >> >>That's quite an unusual sig you have there. Thank you, Flame. I like it. > >Stop in at rec.motorcycles.harley sometime and the meaning will become >clear. Well, maybe.... > > > Ron I was waiting to see how long it would be before you noticed me lurking around in the background, Ron. :-) I was pleased to see you in here quite some time ago. -- LESDL Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 ###### From: LESDL Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR Organization: Tertiary Adjunct Of Unimatrix Zero One Message-ID: <6c5u6t4uc8u2sjujo77icc71smpg09eupe@4ax.com> References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <93iges$e7m$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93kvs7$int$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A6E748B.A49CD718@erols.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:50:52 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.58.158.13 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shore.net X-Trace: news.shore.net 980358527 209.58.158.13 (Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:48:47 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:48:47 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.shore.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31515 On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:22:27 -0500, Flame of the West squinted and tapped out: > >Stan Brown wrote: > >> (about the big Red Book LotR) > >> Is the pagination the same as the Centenary Edition with the Alan >> Lee illustrations? > >Almost certainly not, since the Big Red Book was completely >re-typeset. But I'll check tomorrow. I wouldn't know- I've so far resisted getting the new one. For one, the old one is so nice I couldn't imagine liking another as much. For another, I'm not terribly crazy about Alan Lee's work. -- LESDL Asshole(tm)#74 BS 24 ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Hardcover Edtion of LOTR References: <93hrrf$o3$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <3A6DFB29.401068C6@erols.com> <3a6e11a8$1_1@news.nwlink.com> Organization: Europa From: ronc@pacifier.com (Ron Christian) NNTP-Posting-Host: thetics.europa.com Message-ID: <3a6f677a$1_1@news.nwlink.com> Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:38:34 -0800 X-Trace: 24 Jan 2001 15:38:34 -0800, thetics.europa.com Lines: 15 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!wn1feed!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!209.249.123.233!xfer10.netnews.com!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!newsfeed.nwlink.com!news.nwlink.com!ronc Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:31538 In article , LESDL wrote: >I was waiting to see how long it would be before you noticed me >lurking around in the background, Ron. :-) I was pleased to see you >in here quite some time ago. Well, thank you. And I, you. Ron -- [www.europa.com/~ronc] "Denying minorities their God-given right to vote is a terrible, terrible crime. Unless they're Cuban immigrants, of course." -- Rev. Jessie Jackson (paraphrased)