From: jabbakie@my-deja.com Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:05:29 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.230.233.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Aug 21 09:05:29 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 LS, 1.0 main.datagroup.ro:1080 (Squid/2.2.STABLE4), 1.0 x66.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 10.0.1.2, 193.230.233.1 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjabbakie Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!xfer13.netnews.com!netnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26205 Hi all, I use (when posible) to read my books while listening to some appropriate music - a music which is as much in the spirit of the book as it can be . What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR?How about the Silmarillion?(I think they should be different).When you picture the events in your mind , what is the background music? Personally , I use various celtic - like music for the Simarillion (not real folklore - rather simple bagpipe and flaut + symphonic orchestration) cbecause Tolkien almost seems to have drawn inspiration from Irish psychology when depicting the Elves in ths Simarillion(IMHO). Also I am listening to soundtracks of "Rob Roy","Braveheart" and "The Last Of the Mohicans" and no wonder I imagine the Elves in the Silmarillion as wearing rough kilts over meticulously carven armours and huge swords. While reading LOTR I use to alternate Romanian Folk harvest songs (for the parts involving the Shire) with classical passages of hard-rock guitar for the more heroic parts.Manowar, Iron Maiden , Yngwie Malmsteen, may say something to few of you. I would be interested in other options.What do you think? Regards, Jabbakie Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### From: mlindanne@hotmail.com (China Black & Blue) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:25:18 -0700 Organization: Collective against Consensual Sanity Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Hello-Kitty: meow meow. X-Should: Prancing green elves on yellow daisy fields. X-Should-not: You're not allowed. X-Newsgroup-Bomb: Crossposted to heck and back. X-Ray-Specs: Off. X-Traneous-Reference: Kibo X-NSA-Bait: wiretap pgp cryptoterrorist rsa des Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!c145.ppp.tsoft.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26226 / Personally , I use various celtic - like music for the Simarillion / (not real folklore - rather simple bagpipe and flaut + symphonic Of course anything with a flute and bagpipe will be beautiful. Bodhran and violins only add to it. / orchestration) cbecause Tolkien almost seems to have drawn inspiration / from Irish psychology when depicting the Elves in ths Simarillion(IMHO). 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Lines: 29 Message-ID: <8nr4s0$3ig$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.120.155.78 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Aug 21 11:47:15 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x67.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 212.120.155.78 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDsmokybarnable Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26204 In article , mlindanne@hotmail.com (China Black & Blue) wrote: (shnip) > > / orchestration) cbecause Tolkien almost seems to have drawn inspiration > / from Irish psychology when depicting the Elves in ths Simarillion (IMHO). > > Other people quote JRRT as not being impressed by the Irish. > Not so, JRRT didn't particularly like the Irish language, finding it too mushy for his own taste (somewhere in letters) - then again he didn't really like french (autobiography). These were purely aesthetic considerations. However he frequently holidayed in Ireland which would suggest to me that he was fond of the country and the people (seperate from his duties as an external examiner for the National University of Ireland). However, I do remember reading somewhere (I wish I could find the source), that he did consider Ireland a benighted country only saved by the intensity of its faith. Smoky Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### Lines: 23 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 21 Aug 2000 12:15:20 GMT References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Message-ID: <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26216 >What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR?How >about the Silmarillion?(I think they should be different).When you >picture the events in your mind , what is the background music? I don't often listen while reading, since I end up trying to pay attention to both words and music, and fail -- I multitask poorly ;) But when I do listen and read LOTR, my first choice is Sibelius :) Sometimes a Romantic-period Russian, like Rimsky-Korsakov. For some reason, R-K's "Russian Easter Overture" always makes me think of the Rohirrim. For the Silmarilion, it would definitely be a Sibelius fest :) Depite being a great fan of both trad music and heavy rock, neither ever fits Tolkien for me. Though my favorite Tolkien-inspired rock is easily "Saruman's Wish" by Orange Goblin :) And there's something Hobbitish in Morris dance tunes ... :) Cheers, Carl ###### From: Mark Thakkar Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30 Lines: 21 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:16:24 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.24.149.234 X-Complaints-To: abuse@breathe.com X-Trace: news-1.opaltelecom.net 966860215 62.24.149.234 (Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:16:55 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:16:55 BST Organization: Breathe www.breathe.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!209.249.123.233.MISMATCH!xfer10.netnews.com!netnews.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!gestalt.direcpc.com.!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news-1.opaltelecom.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26222 Jabbakie, > I use (when posible) to read my books while listening to some > appropriate music - a music which is as much in the spirit of > the book as it can be . > What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR? > [...] When you picture the events in your mind , what is the > background music? When I read LOTR, I was only 11-ish, and I read it a lot on long car journeys. The background music was therefore dictated by what was on in the car, which happened to be Greek bouzouki music (well, Never On Sunday). So I associate the two, and it seems a natural association to me, even though it clearly isn't. When I hear a certain part of the music - which I rarely listen to - I'm always reminded of Boromir's death, for example. What I'm trying to say is that I expect /any/ music you listen to whilst reading LOTR will seem appropriate, at least afterwards. Mark. ###### From: urban@panix.com (Michael Urban) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: 21 Aug 2000 10:26:20 -0400 Organization: PANIX -- Public Access Networks Corp. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <8nre6c$shn$1@panix3.panix.com> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 966867981 14948 166.84.0.228 (21 Aug 2000 14:26:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Aug 2000 14:26:21 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26210 In article <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com>, CarlEdlund wrote: > >For the Silmarilion, it would definitely be a Sibelius fest :) > The Kullervo Symphony makes an ... interesting experience when coupled with the tale of Turin. >And there's something Hobbitish in Morris dance tunes ... :) I have sometimes described Morris tunes as some of the most relentlessly cheerful melodies around. ###### From: brahms@mindspring.com (Stan Brown) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:38:42 -0400 Organization: Oak Road Systems Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.79.cf.e2 X-Server-Date: 21 Aug 2000 14:38:23 GMT X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26232 CarlEdlund wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien: >For the Silmarilion, it would definitely be a Sibelius fest :) Yes I agree there. One rather obscure reference: The middle movement of the King Christian Suite is perfect for Luthien's decision over whether to become mortal. I'd go with the opening of Mahler's First for the first rising of the Sun, though. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cleveland, Ohio, USA http://oakroadsystems.com Tolkien FAQs: http://home.uchicago.edu/~sbjensen/Tolkien Encyclopedia of Arda: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm more FAQs: http://oakroadsystems.com/tech/faqget.htm ###### From: "Morgil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 26 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <7Sbo5.294$xG.15820@read2.inet.fi> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:25:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.197.13.94 X-Trace: read2.inet.fi 966871555 194.197.13.94 (Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:25:55 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:25:55 EET DST Organization: Sonera corp Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.algonet.se!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read2.inet.fi.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26206 CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com>... > >I don't often listen while reading, since I end up trying to pay attention to >both words and music, and fail -- I multitask poorly ;) I´m just the opposite. I can´t concentrate on anything without some kind of background music. :) >But when I do listen and read LOTR, my first choice is Sibelius :) Sometimes a >Romantic-period Russian, like Rimsky-Korsakov. Tchaikovsky, Symphony 4. would be my choice from classical side. >For the Silmarilion, it would definitely be a Sibelius fest :) Kullervo-symphony by Sibelius could be nominated to an official soundtrack of Narn I Hin Hurin. I don´t personally like the singing parts, but other then that it´s great. Morgil ###### From: johnnybravo58@hotmail.com (Johnny Firic) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:03:06 GMT Organization: HiNet Lines: 16 Message-ID: <39a15070.1484522@news.tel.hr> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a90-p51-zg.tel.hr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: as102.tel.hr 966874048 18629 195.29.245.51 (21 Aug 2000 16:07:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tel.hr NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Aug 2000 16:07:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news1.hinet.hr!argos.tel.hr!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26199 >What I'm trying to say is that I expect /any/ music you listen to >whilst reading LOTR will seem appropriate, at least afterwards. > That's right, so, for your first read you should definitely choose heavy prog rock, like Monster Magnet, Budgie, Dream Theater ... something of the sort. So it grows on ya. When I was first reading G.G. Kay's "Lions of Al-Rassan", I was listening to Page&Plant's "No Quarter", as both have an Arabic taste. I liked it a lot, you know! The trouble is, NQ (as well as the most of my other discs) last too short. so changing the record kills my concentration on the book.... - Johnny - ###### From: "Henrik Larsen" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 14 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <_6do5.270$ux6.7004@news.get2net.dk> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:50:12 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.82.217.146 X-Complaints-To: abuse@get2.net X-Trace: news.get2net.dk 966876730 195.82.217.146 (Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:52:10 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:52:10 MET DST Organization: get2net Internet Kunde Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed1.uni2.dk!news.get2net.dk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26214 jabbakie@my-deja.com skrev i meddelelsen <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... >Hi all, >I use (when posible) to read my books while listening to some >appropriate music - a music which is as much in the spirit of >the book as it can be . > What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR? "Goblin" :-) -- Henrik Larsen my kingdom for a quote ###### From: "jj13sb000-GrimmM(10030357)31c22" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:23:54 -0600 Organization: Lucent Technologies, Denver, Colorado Lines: 20 Message-ID: <39A19DEA.59A83530@lucent.com> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: genesis.dr.lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!zur.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!nntphub.cb.lucent.com!news Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26245 jabbakie@my-deja.com wrote: > > Hi all, > I use (when posible) to read my books while listening to some > appropriate music - a music which is as much in the spirit of the book > as it can be . Vangelis - His CD _Direct_ is mostly instrumental. There's a cut on it (my memory fails me to name it right now) that I play during the ride of the Rohirrim (at The Battle of the Pelennor Fields). It always gives me chills when I hear it. If you're not familiar with Vangelis, he wrote the sound track to _Chariots of Fire_ and _Blade Runner_. -- Mike Grimm | Denver, Colorado Lucent Technologies' | mjgrimm@lucent.com Bell Laboratories | (303) 538-2688 ###### From: orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9855-39A1EAD4-73@storefull-254.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQjSzy230dWlr+6Ej6hqcSd+vpj6gIUOMPNWVbPSdU41mCMjUCHWTeTH1E= Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26250 Jabbakie wrote: >What kind of music do you think it will be >appropriate for LOTR? I generally don't listen to music while reading. I find it too distracting. --Dave ###### From: jblanks@mindspring.com (Jeff Blanks) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:45:13 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.60.02 X-Server-Date: 22 Aug 2000 03:45:25 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!jblanks Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26270 jabbakie@my-deja.com wrote: >Hi all, > I use (when posible) to read my books while listening to some >appropriate music - a music which is as much in the spirit of the book >as it can be. > > I would be interested in other options.What do you think? What comes to mind first is the folky-yet-impressionistic side of early Genesis, especially their 1970 album _Trespass_ (no Phil Collins here, BTW)--very soft, with often two 12-string guitars chiming away in an almost harp-like fashion, something they'd exploit on subsequent albums (and which original lead guitarist Anthony Phillips would exploit in his solo career). For something more extroverted, try Yes' "The Gates Of Delirium", from their 1974 album _Relayer_, a sort of tone poem with words about war, from the social agitation beforehand to the chaos of battle to the victory and the exhaustion afterward to the hope for healing at the end. It's about as close at times to the feel of the "mythopoeic" side of metal as you can get while sounding nothing like metal! If you want classical music, I might recommend "Tapiola", by Sibelius--his last major composition, and not too obviously "classical"-sounding (for some reason, obviously "classical"-sounding music doesn't seem to fit JRRT for me). For something Celtic-flavored, you might try Alan Stivell's _Celtic_Symphony_, but I haven't heard that much of it and as such don't feel too authoritative about this one. Hope this helps. -- The old is dying and the new cannot be born. In the interregnum, a variety of strange and morbid symptoms appears. --Antonio Gramsci ###### From: "Brett Hainley" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 23 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:29:38 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv2-iYCkV+NzfNUBH0erXUNZlv2HEyOluf6UwzYMVsVECeNefYveVQ08JX91AQ7WVk5B19apKp+wkSrZpei!ooBsD7t2Ve1CffEVlLRmHVM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:30:08 -0500 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.giganews.com!news5.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26282 > > But when I do listen and read LOTR, my first choice is Sibelius :) Sometimes a > Romantic-period Russian, like Rimsky-Korsakov. For some reason, R-K's "Russian > Easter Overture" always makes me think of the Rohirrim. > Totally with you on the Russian Romantics. Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture goes very well with the battle of the Pelennor (probably mis-spelled, but so what) Fields. Right down to the chaos in the last movement that can easily represent the coming of the black ships and the shifting rallies that follow. > For the Silmarilion, it would definitely be a Sibelius fest :) > I'm sort of eclectic in the Sil. Lots of Beethoven, Dvorak for Turin, Bach for the Valar, some RR stuff mixed in. And the Cardigans for the Lay of Leithien (also probably mis-spelled, again, so what). ###### From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 22 Aug 2000 11:06:11 GMT References: <7Sbo5.294$xG.15820@read2.inet.fi> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000822070611.04259.00002291@ng-fi1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26268 >CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä ><20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com>... >> >>I don't often listen while reading, since I end up trying to pay >>attention to both words and music, and fail -- I multitask poorly ;) > >I´m just the opposite. I can´t concentrate on anything without some >kind ofbackground music. :) Well, I should say that I have difficulty *reading* with background music. However, when I'm *writing* I do like to have background music (though at lower volume than when I'm just listening to music). >Kullervo-symphony by Sibelius could be nominated to an official >soundtrack of Narn I Hin Hurin. I don´t personally like the singing >parts, but other then that it´s great. I'm not generally a fan of classical vocals (though I put up with Wagnerian opera because I'm a sucker for outrageous bombast :) but I quite like the choral stuff as in Kullervo. Cheers, Carl ###### From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 22 Aug 2000 11:10:54 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000822071054.04259.00002292@ng-fi1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26269 Speaking of book "soundtracks" ... Friends of mine used to gather to read aloud, and I read LOTR. I sometimes stuck on in the background two old "nature" CDs I have: one of thunderstorms and one of wolves howling. They actually did a great job at setting the mood :) Cheers, Carl ###### From: "Morgil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <7Sbo5.294$xG.15820@read2.inet.fi> <20000822070611.04259.00002291@ng-fi1.aol.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 19 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:00:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.197.66.223 X-Trace: read2.inet.fi 966945651 194.197.66.223 (Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:00:51 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:00:51 EET DST Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!newspeer.highwayone.net!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read2.inet.fi.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26262 CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä <20000822070611.04259.00002291@ng-fi1.aol.com>... >>Kullervo-symphony by Sibelius could be nominated to an official >>soundtrack of Narn I Hin Hurin. I don´t personally like the singing >>parts, but other then that it´s great. > >I'm not generally a fan of classical vocals (though I put up with Wagnerian >opera because I'm a sucker for outrageous bombast :) but I quite like the >choral stuff as in Kullervo. Maybe because it´s in foreign language to you? :) Morgil ###### From: Drulúk the Half-Orc Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Organization: University of Mordor, College of Military Sciences Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 18 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:45:00 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.55.36.223 X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@xtra.co.nz X-Trace: news.xtra.co.nz 966948255 210.55.36.223 (Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:44:15 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:44:15 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.via.net!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26291 jabbakie@my-deja.com charged onto the battlefield, raised his/her lance, and shouted this battle cry: > What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR? You may like to check out the music on Patrice Deceuninck's web page at http://www.ifrance.com/jrrvf/artistes/deceuninck/deceuninck.html Like some others, I don't listen to music while reading, finding it too distracting. I will listen when taking a break from reading. Often Sibelius. Drulúk the Half-Orc -- ###### From: Tom Sherlock Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:46:03 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <8nuao3$qa1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <20000822071054.04259.00002292@ng-fi1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.148.65.6 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Aug 22 16:46:03 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x62.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 170.148.65.6 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDtomsherlock Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!newsfeed.icl.net!netnews.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26256 In article <20000822071054.04259.00002292@ng-fi1.aol.com>, carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) wrote: > > Friends of mine used to gather to read aloud, and I read LOTR. I sometimes > stuck on in the background two old "nature" CDs I have: one of thunderstorms > and one of wolves howling. They actually did a great job at setting the mood :) > > Cheers, > Carl I actually enjoy reading certains parts of the Hobbit and LOtR during a true thunderstorm or while it's just raining out. But i've never tried listening to music while reading LOtR; i'll have to try it sometime. Tom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### From: "Elenmelde" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Odp: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 27 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2417.2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:06:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.76.97.14 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tpsa.pl X-Trace: news.tpnet.pl 966974796 213.76.97.14 (Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:06:36 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:06:36 MET DST Organization: TPNET - http://www.tpnet.pl Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.task.gda.pl!orion.cst.tpsa.pl!news.tpnet.pl!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26311 U¿ytkownik Drulúk the Half-Orc w wiadomooci do grup dyskusyjnych napisa³:pct4qskcbdpoglcef71bd4a305f1jdb803@4ax.com... > jabbakie@my-deja.com charged onto the battlefield, raised his/her lance, > and shouted this battle cry: > > > What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR? > > You may like to check out the music on Patrice Deceuninck's > web page at > http://www.ifrance.com/jrrvf/artistes/deceuninck/deceuninck.html I, too, think it's nice While reading LotR prefer to listening to Celtic music. Since I've know this kind of music it become my favourite. It is not that a special melody is for each part of book, like some of you've said but conversaly - I mean when I hear Celtic harp or some kind of flute and generally slower rythms I imagine Elvish music. More spontaneos pieces remind me Rohirrim or Hobbit' dances, and Celtic Music from Scotland (singed pieces) sounds for me like Rohirrim battle song. Regards, Elenmelde ###### From: Zsolt Szekely Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:14:40 -0400 Organization: Youngstown State University Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix1.cc.ysu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!skywalker.ou.edu!news.ysu.edu!UNIX1.CC.YSU.EDU!s0235107 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26330 > What kind of music do you think it will be appropriate for LOTR?How > about the Silmarillion?(I think they should be different).When you > picture the events in your mind , what is the background music? I think Adiemus makes perfect elvensongs. The lyrics are invented and they sound Finnish (to me at least). The songs on their third CD are like the ones I'd hear in the Last Homely House of Elrond. Vangelis also has great music (as somebody mentioned it previously). The departure of Frodo comes to my mind when I hear his song'Come to me' ###### From: "Morgil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 37 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:36:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.213.248.174 X-Trace: read2.inet.fi 966987373 212.213.248.174 (Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:36:13 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:36:13 EET DST Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read2.inet.fi.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26308 jabbakie@my-deja.com kirjoitti viestissä <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... > I would be interested in other options.What do you think? -Clannad with anything related to Elves. Also Maire Brennan alone is good. -West Side Story(tonight, somewhere)with Beren&Luthien or Aragorn&Arwen. (There was once a poll about greatest love story ever and Beren&Luthien wasn´t even nominated. Shame!) -Kullervo by Sibelius with Turin Turambar. -Soundtrack of Conan the Barbarian by Basil Poledouris with battle scenes. -4th Symphony of Tchaikovsky with Return of the King. -Soundtrack of Schindlers List by John Williams with Silmarillion generally. -Star Wars soundtracks by J.W. with LOTR. (Well they are alike, huh?) Also Klezmer-music, Celtic-music, Black Metal for Mordor-feelings, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Rainbow, etc.etc.etc... Morgil "We wander westwards our heart´s desire With seas of light Shadow us under the mountains of time Guide us to endless paths" - "A Place among the Stones" by Maire Brennan and Davy Spillane ###### From: orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6088-39A34A7F-59@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAyA9Hy1Cg5rxID/zvcd9/ikNevNUCFErfJB0PEeLzrvQmqulg6R6MPk4j Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!schlund.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.online.be!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed.concentric.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26298 And of course, once the movie comes out, I'm sure a soundtrack album would be fairly appropriate as well (unless the movie sucks, of course). --Dave ###### From: jabbakie@my-deja.com Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:26:56 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <8nvubk$n30$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <6088-39A34A7F-59@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.230.233.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Aug 23 07:26:56 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 LS, 1.0 main.datagroup.ro:1080 (Squid/2.2.STABLE4), 1.0 x58.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 10.0.1.2, 193.230.233.1 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjabbakie Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.augsburg.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26301 In article <6088-39A34A7F-59@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) wrote: > And of course, once the movie comes out, I'm sure a soundtrack album > would be fairly appropriate as well (unless the movie sucks, of course). > > --Dave > > That reminds me...who is doing the music for the movie and what do we know about it?Personally I had developed quite a taste for movie soundtracks lately (I'll mention again "The Last Of The Mohicans" by Trevor Jones & Randy Edelmann - I beg you to listen it, just listen it and you will see the Silmarillion rising in front of you) maybe I start loosing my imagination and it's easier to let your imagination flow on a soundtrack which clearly describe some events. On the same note, I liked the trailer's soundtrack, didn't you? Best regards, Jabbakie Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 23 Aug 2000 11:40:51 GMT References: <6088-39A34A7F-59@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Message-ID: <20000823074051.06816.00002723@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26313 >And of course, once the movie comes out, I'm sure a soundtrack album >would be fairly appropriate as well (unless the movie sucks, of course). Well, it's always possible that the soundtrack could be good even if the movie sucks. For example, I just discovered the Krull soundtrack (J Horner) is readily available and ordered it -- great soundtrack, though the movie was ... Not Very Good, IMO :) Cheers, Carl ###### Lines: 8 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 23 Aug 2000 11:49:37 GMT References: <8nvubk$n30$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Message-ID: <20000823074937.06816.00002724@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26315 >That reminds me...who is doing the music for the movie and what do we >know about it? Howard Shore, apparently.. He's done Silence of the Lambs, Crash, Dead Ringers, Philadelphia and The Fly. Cheers, Carl ###### Lines: 9 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 23 Aug 2000 11:57:41 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26314 >Maybe because it´s in foreign language to you? :) Maybe ;) My German is still decent enough that I can understand most of Wagner's stuff, though. Admittedly, my Finnish doesn't yet extend much beyond "kahvi", "olut", and "kiitos". Though those words have gotten me quite far :) I've also learned the name "Kullervo Kalervonpoika" and the phrase "sinisukka äijön lapsi" quite well at this point, though these have proven less practical ;) ###### From: "Morgil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <8nvubk$n30$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000823074937.06816.00002724@ng-cg1.aol.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:53:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.213.246.29 X-Trace: read2.inet.fi 967042390 212.213.246.29 (Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:53:10 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:53:10 EET DST Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read2.inet.fi.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26309 CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä <20000823074937.06816.00002724@ng-cg1.aol.com>... >>That reminds me...who is doing the music for the movie and what do we >>know about it? > >Howard Shore, apparently.. He's done Silence of the Lambs, Crash, Dead Ringers, >Philadelphia and The Fly. For some reason he sounds like a wrong guy for the job. I think he lacks Pathos, or something... Morgil ###### From: "Morgil" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 19 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:55:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.197.14.229 X-Trace: read2.inet.fi 967064112 194.197.14.229 (Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:55:12 EET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:55:12 EET DST Organization: Sonera corp Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central.inet.fi!inet.fi!read2.inet.fi.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26344 CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com>... >>Maybe because it´s in foreign language to you? :) > >Maybe ;) My German is still decent enough that I can understand most of >Wagner's stuff, though. Well, Opera is a different thing. It is supposed to have the story told by singing. But Kullervo is supposed to be a Symphony. I somehow get the feeling like someone is trying to explain me what the music is supposed to mean, instead of letting the Music to tell the story. Sibelius himself didn´t like the outcome either and didn´t allow it to be performed while he was alive. Morgil ###### From: orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 11 Message-ID: <23049-39A48B64-18@storefull-257.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <20000823074051.06816.00002723@ng-cg1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAqim6FsAT5ihy288ZxyophLorz5ECFGYpUbY2U8V70wDn29paC0igarFN Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed.concentric.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26336 CarlEdlund wrote: >it's always possible that the soundtrack >could be good even if the movie sucks. True enough, but since music does stir the memory, a soundtrack from a crappy LotR film would only befoul the reading experience, as the reader would be reminded of a cinematic disaster. --Dave ###### Lines: 17 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 24 Aug 2000 11:29:04 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000824072904.06774.00003169@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26347 Morgil quoth: >CarlEdlund kirjoitti viestissä >>Howard Shore, apparently.. He's done Silence of the Lambs, Crash, Dead >>Ringers, Philadelphia and The Fly. > >For some reason he sounds like a wrong guy for the job. >I think he lacks Pathos, or something... Well, I haven't seen most of those films, but I don't particularly remember the soundtracks from the ones I did see. I didn't exactly jump out of my seat when I heard Howard Shore was tapped to do music. I hear he's done music for The Cell, now in theatres in the US, but I haven't bothered to see that either (and I could be wrong about him doing the music). Cheers, Carl ###### Message-ID: <39A58AC5.6426526C@online.no> From: Thomas Jacobsson Reply-To: thomas.j@online.no X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:51:17 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.67.135.156 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@online.no X-Trace: news1.online.no 967146488 130.67.135.156 (Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:48:08 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:48:08 MET DST Organization: Telenor Online Public Access Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!newsfeed1.online.no!newsfeed.online.no!news1.online.no!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26394 > While reading LOTR I use to alternate Romanian Folk harvest songs > (for the parts involving the Shire) with classical passages of hard-rock > guitar for the more heroic parts.Manowar, Iron Maiden , Yngwie > Malmsteen, may say something to few of you. Hmm... I've never considered Iron Maiden in conjunction with TLOTR, but imagin the intro of Phantom of the Opera in some of the most intense parts. Personally I don't listen much to music while reading, but it might be interesting to try. Celtic (or try something different, like Enigma) with "The Silmarillion". I also like listening to songs by the Alan Parsons Project. "Time" and "Old And Wise" are at times appropriate. As are "Prime Time" and "Stereotomy" at more intense parts (to be honest, I listen to APP _all_ the time). Cheers, Thomas Jacobsson ###### From: Peter Li Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:38:47 -0400 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <39A58AC5.6426526C@online.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: is05.fas.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39A58AC5.6426526C@online.no> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.online.be!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.fas.harvard.edu!is05.fas.harvard.edu!li4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26400 Someone already mentioned Wagner, but I think specifically most of the Dwarf music from Nibelungen would be appropriate for moria/morgoth/dwarfy stuff. Das Rheingold and Die Walkure in particular. ###### From: "Wolfman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:07:13 +0100 Organization: BT Internet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> References: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host62-7-82-197.btinternet.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!codeine.org!grolier!btnet-peer0!btnet!mendelevium.btinternet.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26454 My Finnish is non-existent. Care to translate? -- Blessings Wolfman In Wildness is the Preservation of the Earth. "CarlEdlund" wrote in message news:20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com... > >Maybe because it´s in foreign language to you? :) > > Maybe ;) My German is still decent enough that I can understand most of > Wagner's stuff, though. Admittedly, my Finnish doesn't yet extend much beyond > "kahvi", "olut", and "kiitos". Though those words have gotten me quite far :) > > I've also learned the name "Kullervo Kalervonpoika" and the phrase "sinisukka > äijön lapsi" quite well at this point, though these have proven less practical > ;) ###### From: Drulúk the Half-Orc Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Organization: University of Mordor, College of Military Sciences Message-ID: <76uhqsgp59a6ut96nf33renuua3eqa48p2@4ax.com> References: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 25 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:22:35 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.55.151.56 X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@xtra.co.nz X-Trace: news.xtra.co.nz 967375304 210.55.151.56 (Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:21:44 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:21:44 NZST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.via.net!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26465 Wolfman charged onto the battlefield, raised his/her lance, and shouted this battle cry: > My Finnish is non-existent. Care to translate? kahvi coffee olut beer kiitos thanks Online Finnish-English dictionaries: http://www.tracetech.net/db.htm http://efe.scape.net/ [Did not translate "kahvi"...] http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran [Did not translate "kiitos"...] http://www.freedict.com/onldict/fin.html http://dictionaries.travlang.com/FinnishEnglish/ Drulúk the Half-Orc -- ###### From: "Wolfman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:22:34 +0100 Organization: BT Internet Lines: 38 Message-ID: <8oc0t1$fam$1@uranium.btinternet.com> References: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> <76uhqsgp59a6ut96nf33renuua3eqa48p2@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host62-6-71-112.btinternet.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!npeer.kpnqwest.net!news2.kpn.net!news.kpn.net!IRIS.global-one.nl!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!grolier!btnet-peer0!btnet!mendelevium.btinternet.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26531 "Drulúk the Half-Orc" wrote in message news:76uhqsgp59a6ut96nf33renuua3eqa48p2@4ax.com... > Wolfman charged onto the battlefield, raised his/her lance, > and shouted this battle cry: > > > My Finnish is non-existent. Care to translate? > > kahvi coffee > olut beer > kiitos thanks > > Online Finnish-English dictionaries: > > http://www.tracetech.net/db.htm > http://efe.scape.net/ > > [Did not translate "kahvi"...] > http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran > > [Did not translate "kiitos"...] > http://www.freedict.com/onldict/fin.html > http://dictionaries.travlang.com/FinnishEnglish/ > > > Drulúk the Half-Orc Thanks Drulúk! -- Blessings Wolfman In Wildness is the Preservation of the Earth. ###### From: "Androg" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com> <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> <76uhqsgp59a6ut96nf33renuua3eqa48p2@4ax.com> Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:11:40 +1000 Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 NNTP-Posting-Host: delta.tavultesoft.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: delta.tavultesoft.com Message-ID: <39aa034b$1@casper.southcom.com.au> X-Trace: 28 Aug 2000 06:14:35 GMT, delta.tavultesoft.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.labyrinth.net.au!casper.southcom.com.au!delta.tavultesoft.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26521 Drulúk the Half-Orc wrote in message news:76uhqsgp59a6ut96nf33renuua3eqa48p2@4ax.com... > Wolfman charged onto the battlefield, raised his/her lance, > and shouted this battle cry: > > > My Finnish is non-existent. Care to translate? > > kahvi coffee > olut beer > kiitos thanks Is kiitos related to the Greek kudos? they seem to have a very similar meaning... -- Andróg "Fela bith on Westwegum werum uncúthra, wundra and wihta, wlitescéne land, eardgeard elfa, and ésa bliss." ###### From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Aug 2000 11:44:45 GMT References: <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000828074445.02626.00000033@ng-fi1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26513 Wolfman quoth: >My Finnish is non-existent. Care to translate? Someone else got "kahvi", "olut", and "kiitos", but ... >"CarlEdlund" wrote in message >news:20000823075741.06816.00002725@ng-cg1.aol.com... >> I've also learned the name "Kullervo Kalervonpoika" and the phrase >"sinisukka >> äijön lapsi" quite well at this point, though these have proven less >practical >> ;) "Kullervo Kalervonpoika" is just a name: Kullervon Kalervo's son. My one bit of Finnish grammatical knowledge is that (I think) -n marks the genitive (because one sees it with names so darned often). As for "sinisukka äijön lapsi", I believe it means "in the very bluest stockings", and I know it only because it 1) follows the line ""Kullervo Kalervonpoika" in Sibelius's Kullervo Symphony (and is taken from the Kalevala), and 2) because it seems such an odd thing to emphasize about someone! My goal is to learn a few more (useful) words before I next visit friends in Helsinki :) Now I shall go back to listening to my Kingston Wall CDs ... Cheers, Carl ###### From: Tamim Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: 28 Aug 2000 13:22:22 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 36 Message-ID: <8odp2e$i40$1@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> References: <8o9f4n$gke$1@uranium.btinternet.com> <20000828074445.02626.00000033@ng-fi1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sirppi.helsinki.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: oravannahka.helsinki.fi 967468942 18560 128.214.205.27 (28 Aug 2000 13:22:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.helsinki.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Aug 2000 13:22:22 GMT User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (OSF1/V4.0 (alpha)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!news.helsinki.fi!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26530 CarlEdlund wrote: snip > As for "sinisukka äijön lapsi", I > believe it means "in the very bluest stockings" It literally means "blue stocking, child of Äijö" or in fact because you have not put a comma, child of blue stocking Äijö. but I guess the real meaning is that somebody with blue stockings is the child of Äijö. Tamim , and I know it only because it > 1) follows the line ""Kullervo Kalervonpoika" in Sibelius's Kullervo Symphony > (and is taken from the Kalevala), and 2) because it seems such an odd thing to > emphasize about someone! > My goal is to learn a few more (useful) words before I next visit friends in > Helsinki :) > Now I shall go back to listening to my Kingston Wall CDs ... > Cheers, > Carl -- ###### From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Aug 2000 11:56:59 GMT References: <8odp2e$i40$1@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000829075659.02651.00000512@ng-fi1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26577 Tamim wrote: >CarlEdlund wrote: >> As for "sinisukka äijön lapsi", I >> believe it means "in the very bluest stockings" > >It literally means "blue stocking, child of Äijö" or in fact because you have >not >put a comma, child of blue stocking Äijö. but I guess the real meaning >is that somebody with blue stockings is the child of Äijö. Ah! And that is what I get for relying on the standard English translation for my knowledge ;) It doesn't even mention Äijö. Well, another incentive to improve my Finnish ... Cheers, Carl ###### From: old_toby@my-deja.com Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:34:30 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <8ogomk$jdb$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000821081520.06816.00001997@ng-cg1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.147.2.234 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Aug 29 16:34:30 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.08 (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i686; Nav) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 cafemaster.sr-aktuell.de:3128 (Squid/2.2.PRE2), 1.0 x60.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 192.168.1.51, 213.147.2.234 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDold_toby Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!bignews.mediaways.net!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26566 First of all: Hi everybody! __________ In article , "Brett Hainley" wrote: > Totally with you on the Russian Romantics. Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture goes > very well with the battle of the Pelennor (probably mis-spelled, but so > what) Fields. __________ Ha! - And the quotations of the "Marseillaise" leading directly to the intriguing question if the Black Captain spoke with a French accent (...for 'e will not slay dee in dy teurne...") :-D ...no insult intended, of course... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### From: mlindanne@hotmail.com (China Blue Shift) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:13:02 -0700 Organization: Collective against Consensual Sanity Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <8nqrch$pe9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <39A58AC5.6426526C@online.no> <8ojek0$p7f$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Hello-Kitty: meow meow. X-Should: Prancing green elves on yellow daisy fields. X-Should-not: You're not allowed. X-Newsgroup-Bomb: Crossposted to heck and back. X-Ray-Specs: Off. X-Traneous-Reference: Kibo X-NSA-Bait: wiretap pgp cryptoterrorist rsa des Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!c161.ppp.tsoft.com!user Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26668 / At least it doesn't seem to be very fitting stylisticly, does it? / I mean, shouldn't it sound a bit more archaic to "modern ears" than / Wagner does (from whom still many, if not most, film scores draw / inspiration)? 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Elect LUM World Dictator! ###### Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: carledlund@aol.com (CarlEdlund) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Date: 31 Aug 2000 11:16:25 GMT References: <8ojek0$p7f$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Message-ID: <20000831071625.06804.00006215@ng-cg1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:26648 >I always think of the music of ME as somewhat medieval/folk-like. Other World Music (as opposed to "World Music" ;) Though the original question (now losts in the mists of usenet) concerned what music people like to listen to (if any) while reading Tolkien. Cheers, Carl ###### From: Stug Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:29:19 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: <39BFE39F.E6EC6A47@telerama.com> References: <8nvubk$n30$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000823074937.06816.00002724@ng-cg1.aol.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!sn-xit-uk!193.162.153.122.MISMATCH!news.tele.dk!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:27263 CarlEdlund wrote: > > > Howard Shore, apparently.. He's done Silence of the Lambs, Crash, Dead Ringers, > Philadelphia and The Fly. Also the very disturbing score to Videodrome. Stug -- "I don't know half of you half as well as I would like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve". -- BB ###### From: Stug Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Music of Middle Earth Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:49:36 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 25 Message-ID: <39BFE860.EAFA58B8@telerama.com> References: <8ojek0$p7f$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000831071625.06804.00006215@ng-cg1.aol.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!xfer13.netnews.com!netnews.com!feeder.via.net!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:27262 CarlEdlund wrote: > > Though the original question (now losts in the mists of usenet) concerned what > music people like to listen to (if any) while reading Tolkien. I've got the Bo Hannson album so ingrained into my head that I hear it anytime I read LOTR whether I'm actually playing it or not. Despite having a broad-ranged collection of atomostpheric music (Vangelis, Eno, Tangerine Dream, Jean-Michel Jarre, Mike Oldfield, and even Goblin) I have a difficult time making something fit, if you take my meaning. Jon Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow could work except that it has its own fantasy tale to go with it, so the music tends to make you think of that rather than LOTR. As some posters have suggested, no one type of music would suit the entire novel anyway. You really do need a variety of backgrounds. I like the idea (presented earlier in this thread) of using nature recordings, however. I'll have to try that. Stug -- "I don't know half of you half as well as I would like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve". -- BB