From: "Justin McMichael" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Middle Earth Maps Lines: 18 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:46:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: riverside-gw.newportnews.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:46:52 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12560 I just picked up the 2nd edition red book hardcover. It really like the map attached to the back cover but it's so difficult to unfurl when reading that I rarley do. I am reading it again and I want to spend time looking up as many locations as I can this time through but what I need is a nice map which I can keep handy for this task. Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a reference while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if it were nice enough. Thanks for any help you can offer. Justin McMichael neurotic[AT]home[dot]com ###### From: oscwr@emory.edu (Cal Rice) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: 14 Jan 2000 10:36:08 -0500 Organization: Emory University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <85nfp8$cmr$1@jet.cc.emory.edu> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jet.cc.emory.edu X-Trace: lendl.cc.emory.edu 947864168 9606 170.140.1.27 (14 Jan 2000 15:36:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@emory.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2000 15:36:08 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mindspring.net!finch!lendl.cc.emory.edu!emory.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12543 Justin McMichael (bob@bob.com) wrote: : I just picked up the 2nd edition red book hardcover. It really like the map : attached to the back cover but it's so difficult to unfurl when reading that : I rarley do. : . . . Why don't you just carefully detach it and pin it to the wall or something? -cr -- ###### From: Andomar Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:39:19 +0100 Organization: Gadgeteers Lines: 7 Message-ID: <387F5F47.B417BA8@brotherrobot.org> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-489.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!casema.net!nobody Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12548 > I am reading it again and I want to spend time looking up as many locations > as I can this time through but what I need is a nice map which I can keep > handy for this task. How about making a carbon copy of the map attached to the book. An A2 copy comes in at $0.10... you could by 10 just to have one everywhere. ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) From: sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) Lines: 21 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:26:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.135.12.7 X-Trace: uchinews 947877969 128.135.12.7 (Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:26:09 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:26:09 CST Organization: The University of Chicago Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12534 Quoth "Justin McMichael" : > Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a > reference while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if > it were nice enough. I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for sale in bookstores (I think I've seen them at Barnes & Noble, among other places), but sadly I can't even recall who the illustrator was. Looked fairly fancy, but you could certainly keep track of who was where on it. You might also be interested in looking for _The Journeys of Frodo_, by yet another author I've forgotten, which purports to trace all the movements of the Fellowship throughout the books, with markings to show approximate locations of camps each night and lots of other interesting information. It's not a "quick reference", and I think it's out of print, but I found it quite interesting when I read it (quite) a few years ago. It seemed pretty well researched at the time, at least. Steuard Jensen ###### From: D Bland Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:41:24 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <85o1lh$et9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.7.17.3 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 14 20:41:24 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x39.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 167.7.17.3 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDdwbland Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!netnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12540 Try the ATLAS of Middle Earth by fonstad. Reasonably priced, handy little reference that pays great attention to detail. Available at AMAZON.com In article <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net>, "Justin McMichael" wrote: > I just picked up the 2nd edition red book hardcover. It really like the map > attached to the back cover but it's so difficult to unfurl when reading that > I rarley do. > > I am reading it again and I want to spend time looking up as many locations > as I can this time through but what I need is a nice map which I can keep > handy for this task. > > Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a reference > while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if it were nice > enough. > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > Justin McMichael > neurotic[AT]home[dot]com > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### From: "Alan Graham" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:00:44 -0000 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 26 Message-ID: <85o2o4$pl$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-79.umbrella.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 947883587 821 62.136.149.79 (14 Jan 2000 20:59:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2000 20:59:48 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12546 Steuard Jensen wrote in message ... >Quoth "Justin McMichael" : >> Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a >> reference while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if >> it were nice enough. > >I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for >sale in bookstores (I think I've seen them at Barnes & Noble, among >other places), but sadly I can't even recall who the illustrator was. >Looked fairly fancy, but you could certainly keep track of who was >where on it. I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but a long time ago a friend has a ME map on his wall. What always intrigued me was that IIRC it was a "complete" map of middleearth, detailing lands to the south, the east and the southeast - a complete continent. Given that I've never seen it in any official Tolkien publication since, it sounds to me like some cheap, trashy cash-in merchandise - but does anyone know where it came from? Al ###### From: Neil Anderson Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:07:54 -0400 Organization: UUNET Lines: 32 Message-ID: <387F902A.24536F53@hartford.bm> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> <85o2o4$pl$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> Reply-To: nanderson@hartford.bm NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.238.210 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ffx2nh5.news.uu.net 947883918 22327 199.172.238.210 (14 Jan 2000 21:05:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2000 21:05:18 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!uunet!ams.uu.net!nyc.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!ffx2nh5!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12535 Alan Graham wrote: > > Steuard Jensen wrote in message ... > >Quoth "Justin McMichael" : > >> Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a > >> reference while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if > >> it were nice enough. > > > >I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for > >sale in bookstores (I think I've seen them at Barnes & Noble, among > >other places), but sadly I can't even recall who the illustrator was. > >Looked fairly fancy, but you could certainly keep track of who was > >where on it. > > I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but a long time ago a friend has > a ME map on his wall. What always intrigued me was that IIRC it was a > "complete" map of middleearth, detailing lands to the south, the east and > the southeast - a complete continent. > > Given that I've never seen it in any official Tolkien publication since, it > sounds to me like some cheap, trashy cash-in merchandise - but does anyone > know where it came from? > Probably this was the Iron Crown Enterprise map of "all of Middle-earth". It was completely based on their own ideas of what the rest of M-E looked like, in turn driven by their need to create plenty of gaming environments for the now defunct M-E series of modules. Neil Anderson Stay sane inside insanity ###### From: Neil Anderson Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:08:45 -0400 Organization: UUNET Lines: 28 Message-ID: <387F905D.E5C14BD4@hartford.bm> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> Reply-To: nanderson@hartford.bm NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.238.210 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ffx2nh5.news.uu.net 947883969 22327 199.172.238.210 (14 Jan 2000 21:06:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jan 2000 21:06:09 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!uunet!ams.uu.net!nyc.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!ffx2nh5!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12538 Steuard Jensen wrote: > > Quoth "Justin McMichael" : > > Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a > > reference while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if > > it were nice enough. > > I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for > sale in bookstores (I think I've seen them at Barnes & Noble, among > other places), but sadly I can't even recall who the illustrator was. > Looked fairly fancy, but you could certainly keep track of who was > where on it. > > You might also be interested in looking for _The Journeys of Frodo_, > by yet another author I've forgotten, which purports to trace all the > movements of the Fellowship throughout the books, with markings to > show approximate locations of camps each night and lots of other > interesting information. It's not a "quick reference", and I think > it's out of print, but I found it quite interesting when I read it > (quite) a few years ago. It seemed pretty well researched at the > time, at least. Journeys of Frodo by Barbara Strachey Neil Anderson Stay sane inside insanity ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien From: Michael@xenite.org (Michael Martinez) Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Organization: Xenite.Org: Science Fiction and Fantasy Message-ID: <85o3oe$18o_014@news.uswest.net> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> <85o2o4$pl$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 16 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:17:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.224.149.184 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 947884294 207.224.149.184 (Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:11:34 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:11:34 CST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-out.uswest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!xenite1 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12544 In article <85o2o4$pl$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Alan Graham" wrote: >I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but a long time ago a friend has >a ME map on his wall. What always intrigued me was that IIRC it was a >"complete" map of middleearth, detailing lands to the south, the east and >the southeast - a complete continent. > >Given that I've never seen it in any official Tolkien publication since, it >sounds to me like some cheap, trashy cash-in merchandise - but does anyone >know where it came from? Sounds like I.C.E.'s MERP map, which they are no longer selling (although I don't know if any stores still carry MERP stuff). It was, as maps go, very nicely done. But it had absolutely no relation to the actual shape of the lands as defined by Tolkien, except in the northwest. ###### From: orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:31:38 -0500 (EST) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 14 Message-ID: <12686-387FF82A-98@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQGqKpkmkZGwy7m4m4XsFsbZUgQ6wIUMSPqk4l5FYBagJYqgLdAvKg861E= Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12570 Steuard Jensen wrote: >I have seen some rather nice, >poster-size maps of Middle-earth for sale >in bookstores (I think I've seen them at >Barnes & Noble, among other places), >but sadly I can't even recall who the >illustrator was. If you're talking about that illustrated map of The Hobbit, then I'm fairly sure it was John Howe. --Dave ###### From: orius@webtv.net (David Sulger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:39:13 -0500 (EST) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 16 Message-ID: <12686-387FF9F1-100@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRzhsPP3wk0mMVvgKHgI6p6iLcYgwIUSzkVgql3F48mgLPtRbRj5zitxE0= Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12572 Justin McMichael wrote: >Can anyone recommend a map or set of >map which works well as a reference >while reading? I personally use the Atlas of ME myself, but if you have that large red hardcover edition, you should be able to remove the map, I think. I even drew up my own map of ME about five or six years ago, but I've probably lost it. While some of the scale was a little imperfect, it was pretty good, certainly better than those terrible maps that are in the current Ballentine pb printings. --Dave ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps References: <12686-387FF82A-98@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) From: sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) Lines: 15 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:12:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.135.12.7 X-Trace: uchinews 947931169 128.135.12.7 (Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:12:49 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:12:49 CST Organization: The University of Chicago Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12568 > Steuard Jensen wrote: > >I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for > >sale in bookstores Quoth orius@webtv.net (David Sulger): > If you're talking about that illustrated map of The Hobbit, then I'm > fairly sure it was John Howe. You know, the most recent one that I've seen _was_ a map of _The Hobbit_, now that you mention it. On the other hand, I feel fairly certain that I've seen a full Middle-earth map poster in the same general form within the past couple of years, too... perhaps it was by Howe, too. (Unless it was by my overactive imagination...) :) Steuard Jensen ###### From: StevieRayVonnegut Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Message-ID: <210046ed.cb5e967a@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com> Lines: 9 Bytes: 359 X-Originating-Host: 209.30.64.34 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> <12686-387FF9F1-100@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <3880527C.477F20BE@Snakebite.com> X-Wren-Trace: eAAlDQwVUhhTQgELDkIUChkdBQgHAVJHJRUOCwYbV0MACwBTXhlbXVxPUlFAE0c= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:28:45 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.14 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon4 947936206 10.0.2.14 (Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:36:46 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:36:46 PST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!remarQ-uK!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon4.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12576 Ive got a Pauline Baines "Narnia" map hanging in my living room. I didnt know she had done a Tolkien map. She did Illustrate FARMER GILES OF HAM and THE ADVENTURES OF TOMBOMBADIL though didnt she? SRV * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ###### From: CeP Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:51:34 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3880F9F6.6DD7@gnt.net> References: <12686-387FF82A-98@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-MUC.ecrc.net!remarQ-uK!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12577 I have that map by Howe. It comes in a small carboard type booklet with the map folded inside and a short glossary of the various ME locations. Very nice, I have it hanging on my wall above my Tolkien stuff on the bookshelf. --Charles > You know, the most recent one that I've seen _was_ a map of _The > Hobbit_, now that you mention it. On the other hand, I feel fairly > certain that I've seen a full Middle-earth map poster in the same > general form within the past couple of years, too... perhaps it was by > Howe, too. (Unless it was by my overactive imagination...) :) > > Steuard Jensen ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Date: 16 Jan 2000 00:49:01 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 29 Message-ID: <6uembi28wi.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <12686-387FF82A-98@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 947980141 741 10.0.3.2 (15 Jan 2000 23:49:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jan 2000 23:49:01 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12581 sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) writes: > > Steuard Jensen wrote: > > >I have seen some rather nice, poster-size maps of Middle-earth for > > Hobbit_, now that you mention it. On the other hand, I feel fairly > certain that I've seen a full Middle-earth map poster in the same > general form within the past couple of years, too... perhaps it was by > Howe, too. (Unless it was by my overactive imagination...) :) The map I have got here is about 70x70cm, colour, pictures around all 4 edges, about 10-15cm wide. It says: The Map of Tolkien's Middle-Earth Publisher (in GB) Harper Collins 1994 Text (it has a booklet included) Brian Sibley 1994 Illustratins John Howe 1994 Original Map Christopher Tolkien 1954 ISBN 0 261 10318 0 The first half of the text talks about it being a map that started Bilbo on his adventure and end with "John Howe's map" will enable the reader to follow. The second half of the text is a place list. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ ###### From: crpnteron@cs.com (Crpnteron) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.cs.com X-Admin: news@cs.com Date: 15 Jan 2000 21:58:36 GMT References: <210046ed.cb5e967a@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/) Message-ID: <20000115165836.05490.00000490@ng-bh1.news.cs.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.cs.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12606 The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad is a complete atlas for the lotr,hobbit and the sil. although it is not color it is incredibly detailed and great for using while you read ###### From: pbachjson@aol.comnojunk (PaulB) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Middle Earth Maps Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 17 Jan 2000 20:30:43 GMT References: <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler Message-ID: <20000117153043.12162.00000133@nso-cb.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch rec.arts.books.tolkien:12649 In article <0VEf4.10283$T2.9768187@firenze.visi.net>, "Justin McMichael" writes: >Can anyone recommend a map or set of map which works well as a reference >while reading? I would be willing to pay for something if it were nice >enough. > > I just went to my local used bookstore, bought a second copy and detached the map. PB "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." -JRRT