Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381d89f9.120954972@news.earthlink.net> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) From: sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) Lines: 51 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 01:38:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.135.12.7 X-Trace: uchinews 941506738 128.135.12.7 (Mon, 01 Nov 1999 19:38:58 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 19:38:58 CST Organization: The University of Chicago Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail Quoth Creole : > It recently dawned on me that Arwen is only four generations removed > from Luthien, or five generations removed from Melian... I do wonder > sometimes what powers she possessed beyond that of the typical elf. Just wait a couple of years... there are some movies coming out that are sure to highlight every last bit of Arwen's divine powers. :) Over the lip of the little dell, on the side away from the hill, they felt, rather than saw, a shadow rise, one shadow or more than one. They strained their eyes, and the shadows seemed to grow. Soon there could be no doubt: three or four tall black figures were standing there on the slope, looking down on them. So black were they that they seemed like balck holes in the deep shade behind them. Frodo thought that he heard a faint hiss as of venomous breath and felt a thin piercing chill. Then the shapes slowly advanced. Their eyes fell on Frodo and pierced him, as they rushed towards him. But just as they were about to fall on the company in wrath, they were stopped with a great shock: as if they had run into some web like a great spider's, only invisible. Frodo could see no obstacle, but something too strong for their will to overcome barred the way. The black forms looked about, and then within the shadow of the dell they saw a new form take shape. Frodo was astonished to see an Elven maiden stride into the circle of firelight, defiantly advancing against the servants of the Enemy. Young she was and yet not so. To Frodo's surprise, she seemed to be clad in elven-mail, which glittered in the firelight where it wrapped tightly round her shapely chest. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost, her white arms and legs, unhampered by armor, were flawless and smooth, and the light of stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night; yet queenly she looked, and thought and knowledge were in her glance, and when she looked upon Strider it was clear that she had known many things that the years bring. Above her brow her head was covered with a cap of sliver-steel netted with small gems, glittering white; but her hard shining mail was fashioned as a girdle of leaves wrought in silver. "Begone, foul servants of Sauron!" she cried, leveling a long, thin blade at the wraiths, "and do not strive to penetrate the Girdle of Arwen: it will avail ye naught. None may pass it against my will, unless one should come with a power greater than that of the heiress of Melian the Maia, but your Master is far away. Now get ye gone, ere I throw down your mounts and lay bare the pits of your tortured souls!" Steuard Jensen ###### Message-ID: <381E4612.10DD@sympatico.ca> From: Cletus the slack-jawed yokel Reply-To: william.truderung@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381d89f9.120954972@news.earthlink.net> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 02:07:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.172.198.124 X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 941508453 206.172.198.124 (Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:07:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:07:33 EDT Organization: Sympatico Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!torn!news1.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Steuard Jensen wrote: > Over the lip of the little dell, on the side away from the hill, > they felt, rather than saw, a shadow rise, one shadow or more than > one. They strained their eyes, and the shadows seemed to grow. > Soon there could be no doubt: three or four tall black figures were > standing there on the slope, looking down on them. So black were > they that they seemed like balck holes in the deep shade behind > them. Frodo thought that he heard a faint hiss as of venomous > breath and felt a thin piercing chill. Then the shapes slowly > advanced. > > Their eyes fell on Frodo and pierced him, as they rushed towards > him. But just as they were about to fall on the company in wrath, > they were stopped with a great shock: as if they had run into some > web like a great spider's, only invisible. Frodo could see no > obstacle, but something too strong for their will to overcome > barred the way. The black forms looked about, and then within the > shadow of the dell they saw a new form take shape. > > Frodo was astonished to see an Elven maiden stride into the circle > of firelight, defiantly advancing against the servants of the > Enemy. Young she was and yet not so. To Frodo's surprise, she > seemed to be clad in elven-mail, which glittered in the firelight > where it wrapped tightly round her shapely chest. The braids of > her dark hair were touched by no frost, her white arms and legs, > unhampered by armor, were flawless and smooth, and the light of > stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night; yet > queenly she looked, and thought and knowledge were in her glance, > and when she looked upon Strider it was clear that she had known > many things that the years bring. Above her brow her head was > covered with a cap of sliver-steel netted with small gems, > glittering white; but her hard shining mail was fashioned as a > girdle of leaves wrought in silver. > > "Begone, foul servants of Sauron!" she cried, leveling a long, thin > blade at the wraiths, "and do not strive to penetrate the Girdle of > Arwen: it will avail ye naught. None may pass it against my will, > unless one should come with a power greater than that of the > heiress of Melian the Maia, but your Master is far away. Now get > ye gone, ere I throw down your mounts and lay bare the pits of your > tortured souls!" > > Steuard Jensen LOL! This one's a keeper! ###### From: jonmeltzer@mindspring.com (Jon Meltzer) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:19:14 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 7 Message-ID: <381fd68a.2657624@news.mindspring.com> References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381d89f9.120954972@news.earthlink.net> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> Reply-To: jmeltzer@pobox.com NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.20.e5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 2 Nov 1999 12:20:20 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 01:38:58 GMT, sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) wrote: > "and do not strive to penetrate the Girdle of > Arwen: it will avail ye naught! " What Elrond said to Aragorn in their "facts of life" discussion ... ###### From: "Öjevind Lång" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381d89f9.120954972@news.earthlink.net> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) Lines: 21 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.62.22 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 941543652 212.151.62.22 (Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:54:12 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:54:12 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 X-Sender: unknown@d212-151-62-22.swipnet.se Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:54:13 +0100 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Steuard Jensen hath written: >Quoth Creole : >> It recently dawned on me that Arwen is only four generations removed >> from Luthien, or five generations removed from Melian... I do wonder >> sometimes what powers she possessed beyond that of the typical elf. > >Just wait a couple of years... there are some movies coming out that >are sure to highlight every last bit of Arwen's divine powers. :) > > Over the lip of the little dell, on the side away from the hill, [snip glorious adaption] > tortured souls!" Bravo! Bravo! Why the hell didn't Peter Jacksom hire you to do the script? I could live with this! Öjevind ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> <381fd68a.2657624@news.mindspring.com> X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test70 (17 January 1999) From: sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <8zDT3.572$84.12294@uchinews> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:37:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.135.12.7 X-Trace: uchinews 941557060 128.135.12.7 (Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:37:40 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:37:40 CST Organization: The University of Chicago Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail Quoth jmeltzer@pobox.com: > (Steuard Jensen) wrote: > > "and do not strive to penetrate the Girdle of > > Arwen: it will avail ye naught! " > What Elrond said to Aragorn in their "facts of life" discussion ... Entirely intentional, I assure you. :) Steuard Jensen ###### From: prembone@excitebitespam.com (Prembone) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: The Power of Arwen (was Re: Why Frodo had to go) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:07:18 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Tue Nov 2 20:05:09 1999 References: <381A57E8.2E5DE2B0@erols.com> <381d89f9.120954972@news.earthlink.net> <381DBB03.49BAAFA0@hotmail.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Organization: The Rescue Frodo SWAT Team X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-001mnminnp156.dialsprint.net X-ELN-Date: 3 Nov 1999 04:03:03 GMT Message-ID: <381fb496.262957284@news.earthlink.net> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!iol.ie!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!newsfeed.icl.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 01:38:58 GMT, sbjensen@midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) wrote: > Their eyes fell on Frodo and pierced him, as they rushed towards > him. But just as they were about to fall on the company in wrath, > they were stopped with a great shock: as if they had run into some > web like a great spider's, only invisible. Frodo could see no > obstacle, but something too strong for their will to overcome > barred the way. Ah! And if only Arwen had been there, Frodo would not have sustained that terrible wound... Thanks for the comic relief, Steuard. Much appreciated. PS - Frodo wouldn't **dream** of penetrating Arwen's Girdle. We all know where **his** mind was that night...see the Weathertop scene in the Bakshi film. ;-) Woo-hoo!! "I **really** wish I'd burnt the Red Book." -- Frodo's Ghost MythTakes: Tolkien Parody http://mythtakes.tsx.org Ole and Sven and the Lutefisk of Doom http://olesven.tsx.org