From: "Öjevind Lång" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <19991101233203.12284.00000687@ngol05.aol.com> Subject: Long-haired Middle-earthers (was Re: Of Elves and ears) Lines: 18 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.62.22 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 941543453 212.151.62.22 (Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:50:53 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:50:53 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 X-Sender: unknown@d212-151-62-22.swipnet.se Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:50:53 +0100 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!news.algonet.se!algonet!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail Michael Martinez hath written: [snip] > >I'm familiar with those, but you were asking if ALL the inhabitants of >Middle-earth had long hair. I can point to many who aren't described so, but >I cannot say how long their hair really was. > >For instance, do you envision Frodo with long hair? I have an even harder time imagining Dwarves with long hair. Gimli the hippie? Öjevind ###### From: jblanks@mindspring.com (Jeff Blanks) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Long-haired Middle-earthers (was Re: Of Elves and ears) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:39:36 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <19991101233203.12284.00000687@ngol05.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.86.75 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server-Date: 14 Nov 1999 06:39:38 GMT X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.icl.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!jblanks "Öjevind Lång" wrote: > Michael Martinez hath written: > > ...do you envision Frodo with long hair? Just to chip in here: No, but I don't imagine Hobbits with mid-century off-the-ear-and-off-the-collar businessman hair, either. Maybe a decent set of ancient-Greek curls. > I have an even harder time imagining Dwarves with long hair. Gimli the > hippie? Well, _some_ hair--enough to cover the ears, probably. Now _Elves_--that's diffo! Note to Rob Coverdale: The Elves depicted in _The_Silmarillion_ might do things that we associate with the people we call "macho," but remember their fairness of face and Artistic Temperament . My Elves all look like Sebastian Bach without (too much of) the rock-star pose (though there might be a certain don't-mess-with-me attitude that's as much the province of the Camp Queen as of the Macho Kick-Ass Guy). Anyone, once again, here's my Elf Recipe: 1 part Anglo-Saxon 1 part feudal Japan 1 part Wars Of The Roses-era England 2 parts Renaissance Italy 1 part a particular strain of 20th-century hippie (minus the drugs and casual sex) 1 part (idealized?) Native American (minus the warrior culture) Note to MM: To me, Aragorn's hair is just long enough for its shagginess to have maximum effect. I keep imagining him (and most Men in ME) with a beard, too, which makes me sorry for Kris Kristofferson's Southern accent, because I keep "seeing" someone that looks kinda like KK when I try to picture Aragorn. -- "There is no excellent beauty which hath not some strangeness in the proportion." --Francis Bacon ###### From: wilbur07@aol.com (Wilbur07) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: Long-haired Middle-earthers (was Re: Of Elves and ears) Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:28:31 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991116142831.04578.00000077@ng-fx1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >20th-century hippie (minus the drugs and >casual sex) I'd imagine that every elf goes through a stage when, just after puberty in his or her 1st century or so, drugs and casual sex play an important part of their lives. After the first century they just grow tired of it and live a more normal life (as people in our world have done). Mark Constantino