From: mcresq@aol.com (McREsq)
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Wading through CJRT's notes and explanations has proven entirely too tedious. 
Am I correct that the section entitled "The Conclusion of the Quenta
Silmarillion" found in HOME Vol. 5 is the latest Quenta Silmarillion (QS
hereafter) writing on the topic?  

In other words, to make The Silmarillion that was published, CJRT took the
later QS found in HOME Vol.X and added the Annals (Grey and Aman).  However,
all those later sources ended too early. So he went back to the pre LOTR QS for
the "rest of the story", making the obvious changes to make it consistent with
the later writings (for example Fionwe, son of Manwe > Eonwe, Maia, Herald of
Manwe.

Is this correct?

If so, I'd like to follow up with a few questions.

Thanks

Russ

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In article <19990929210150.08286.00001589@ngol07.aol.com>,
mcresq@aol.com (McREsq) wrote:
> Wading through CJRT's notes and explanations has
> proven entirely too tedious.
> Am I correct that the section entitled "The Conclusion
> of the Quenta
> Silmarillion" found in HOME Vol. 5 is the latest
> Quenta Silmarillion (QS
> hereafter) writing on the topic?
> In other words, to make The Silmarillion that was
> published, CJRT took the
> later QS found in HOME Vol.X and added the Annals
> (Grey and Aman).  However,
> all those later sources ended too early. So he went
> back to the pre LOTR QS for
> the "rest of the story", making the obvious changes to
> make it consistent with
> the later writings (for example Fionwe, son of Manwe >
> Eonwe, Maia, Herald of
> Manwe.
> Is this correct?

I think so. Actually, the destruction of Doriath,
the fall of Gondolin and the earliest part of the tale
of Earendel seem to be still earlier. I think the last
version of them is in the Quenta (Q) in HoME IV.

In HoME IV C. Tolkien says
"the Quenta account was the last that my father ever
wrote of the story of Gondolin from Tuor's coming
to its destruction;"

Joćo Paulo


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In article <19990929210150.08286.00001589@ngol07.aol.com>, mcresq@aol.com (McREsq) wrote:
>Wading through CJRT's notes and explanations has proven entirely too tedious. 
>Am I correct that the section entitled "The Conclusion of the Quenta
>Silmarillion" found in HOME Vol. 5 is the latest Quenta Silmarillion (QS
>hereafter) writing on the topic?  

Sort of.

More-or-less.

That's pretty close.


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