From: quizmo Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: led zeppelin Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:47:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 17 Sep 1999 02:48:29 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Thu Sep 16 19:55:28 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: pool0826.cvx19-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net Message-ID: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-NECCK (Win98; I) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail wasn't there some kind of lord of the rings thing going on with the musical group led zeppelin? this sticks in my memory for some reason, but the context and time period escape me. one can easily picture an acoustic song from this band appearing in the film version somewhere. --palantir 3 ###### From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 17 Sep 1999 03:39:42 GMT References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990916233942.01369.00000762@ng-ba1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail > >wasn't there some kind of lord of the rings thing going on with the >musical group led zeppelin? Yes there was. We had a discussion about this before. You might be able to pull it out of the Archives. The things I remember are Ramblin on mentions Gollum and Morder. Misty Mountain Hop that mentions Nazgul and of course Stairway to Heaven that Robert Plant denies is about Galadriel but we all know better. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ###### From: Thunder5 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:31:36 -0700 Organization: eoo Lines: 17 Message-ID: <37E250C7.9F12C008@hotmail.com> References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newspeer.ebone.net!diablo.theplanet.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!remarQ-easT!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Your comment may be tongue-in-cheek and rhetorical, but I'll answer anyway. Legend has it that when the band was formed someone, a recording executive perhaps, didn't think much of the band's potential. He said, sarcastically, that it would fly as well as a lead zeppelin. Jimmy Page thought different and used that as the name of the band just to forever rub it in when the band did make it. To avoid confusion of pronunciation, he changed the spelling to "led" -- else people would be saying "leed" zeppelin. John Kendrick the Magnificent wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but how would a Zepplin made of lead fly? :) > > -- > I cant Believe its not Lembas! > Go not to the Elves for Counsel, for they tell embarasing stories about me! > http://john.kendrick.com ###### From: "John Kendrick the Magnificent" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: led zeppelin Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:22:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.105.203 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.tx.home.com 937556533 24.0.105.203 (Fri, 17 Sep 1999 01:22:13 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 01:22:13 PDT Organization: @Home Network Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.tx.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Pardon my ignorance, but how would a Zepplin made of lead fly? :) -- I cant Believe its not Lembas! Go not to the Elves for Counsel, for they tell embarasing stories about me! http://john.kendrick.com ###### From: Zee Capiten Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:31:51 +0200 Organization: 1ste gimnechiske Compagnie Lines: 31 Message-ID: <37E2F996.E4AF9650@skippern.gimnechiske.org> References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> Reply-To: gimnechiske@netscape.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-107.molde-1.globalone.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9-27mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en To: gimnechiske@netscape.net, hogsett@agecon.purdue.edu Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!netnews.globalip.ch!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.tli.de!news.algonet.se!algonet!uninett.no!globalone.no!not-for-mail quizmo wrote: > wasn't there some kind of lord of the rings thing going on with the > musical group led zeppelin? this sticks in my memory for some reason, > but the context and time period escape me. one can easily picture an > acoustic song from this band appearing in the film version somewhere. You remember corectly Rembel on: <- This is an acoustic song In the darkest steps of Mordor I met a girl oh fair, but Gollum, the Evil one, grabbed her and slipped away with her Im gonna keep searching for her....... Battle of Evermore: <- This one is also acoustic darkest of them all -> refere to Nazguls? The causult ones, The ringwrights ride in black. Misty Mountain Hop: so I'm packing my bags for the misty mountain (where the spirits go) over the hill and where the spirits fly For more information: Morgueldar's Tolkien Music List ** http://www.vikings.lv/~witchcraft/jrrt/index.htm Zeppelin and Tolkien Relations Page ** http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2406/ If you know of any more references to Tolkien in Led Zeppelin, please let me know. Brgds Skippern ###### Message-ID: <37E385F8.4EB8740D@wizard.net> From: "James Kuyper Jr." Organization: Not Enough X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de,es,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> <37E2F9C2.7BC22D9F@skippern.gimnechiske.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.8.153.16 X-Trace: typ12.nn.bcandid.com 937657346 209.8.153.16 (Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:22:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:22:26 EDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:30:48 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!gate.bcandid.com.MISMATCH!gw12.nn.bcandid.com!gw22.nn.bcandid.com!gate.bCandid.com!typ12.nn.bcandid.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Zee Capiten wrote: > > quizmo wrote: > > > wasn't there some kind of lord of the rings thing going on with the > > musical group led zeppelin? this sticks in my memory for some reason, > > but the context and time period escape me. one can easily picture an > > acoustic song from this band appearing in the film version somewhere. > > You remember corectly ... > Battle of Evermore: <- This one is also acoustic > darkest of them all -> refere to Nazguls? > The causult ones, The ringwrights ride in black. "ringwrights" or "ringwraiths"? The former would be unfortunate; it's just as reasonable a coined English word as the correct one, but with entirely changed meaning. ###### From: "Edward W. Beattie" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:16:20 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7s0t9k$r30$1@news4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> <19990916233942.01369.00000762@ng-ba1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-91.benadryl.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news4.svr.pol.co.uk 937687156 27744 62.136.54.219 (18 Sep 1999 20:39:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 1999 20:39:16 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!netnews.globalip.ch!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Gordon Nash wrote in message <19990916233942.01369.00000762@ng-ba1.aol.com>... >> >>wasn't there some kind of lord of the rings thing going on with the >>musical group led zeppelin? > >Yes there was. We had a discussion about this before. You might be able to pull >it out of the Archives. The things I remember are Ramblin on mentions Gollum >and Morder. Misty Mountain Hop that mentions Nazgul and, right at the end, "over the Misty Mountains". I think there is something about Ringwraiths on "The Battle of Evermore". The discussion referred to had the title "Heavy Metal Tolkien". regards Edward W. Beattie ###### From: "Muse" Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Re: led zeppelin Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 21:42:40 -0400 Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: <7s4586$882a$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com> References: <37E1ABC5.993C1A6D@earthlink.net> <37E250C7.9F12C008@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ptb2b106-18.splitrock.net X-Trace: newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com 937793606 4238963 209.254.20.217 (20 Sep 1999 02:13:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Sep 1999 02:13:26 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newspeer.monmouth.com!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!skynet.be!207.115.59.8.MISMATCH!newscon05.news.prodigy.com!newscon05.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!not-for-mail Thunder5 wrote in message <37E250C7.9F12C008@hotmail.com>... > Your comment may be tongue-in-cheek and rhetorical, but I'll answer >anyway. Legend has it that when the band was formed someone, a recording >executive perhaps, didn't think much of the band's potential. He said, >sarcastically, that it would fly as well as a lead zeppelin. Jimmy Page >thought different and used that as the name of the band just to forever rub it >in when the band did make it. To avoid confusion of pronunciation, he changed >the spelling to "led" -- else people would be saying "leed" zeppelin. > It was Keith Moon, late drummer of The Who. He might have said it (the band) would go over like "a lead baloon" which is the usual expression. Or he might have exagerated the baloon to a zeppelin for comic purposes, or else the member of zeppelin themselves changed it to that to sound more sexy and powerful. But it was definitely Moonie...:) >John Kendrick the Magnificent wrote: > >> Pardon my ignorance, but how would a Zepplin made of lead fly? :) >> >> -- >> I cant Believe its not Lembas! >> Go not to the Elves for Counsel, for they tell embarasing stories about me! >> http://john.kendrick.com >