Message-ID: <384E81CA.16D529A2@mediaone.net> From: Cian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-MOENE (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien Subject: Swords (was:are there any other movies than the Hobbit?) References: <21392-384B0668-98@storefull-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <82f4eu$398_008@news.uswest.net> <384d02be.2530706@news.ecn.ab.ca> <82jbm4$10k_006@news.uswest.net> <384e3cc5.1594216@news.ecn.ab.ca> <82ltjj$1i4_022@news.uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:05:30 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.99.214 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: ndnws01.ne.mediaone.net 944669417 24.128.99.214 (Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:10:17 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:10:17 EST Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!news.unisource.nl!news1.kpn.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!chnws02.mediaone.net!24.128.1.101!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.60.9!ndnws01.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Michael Martinez wrote: > [snip] > Now, I did have some lengthy discussion with one of WETA's artists about > Elvish swords and Anduril, but it remains to be seen whether I've had any > influence there. I'm hoping they won't be 'over fantasized', if you know what I mean, or even over designed in general. Less is more on the blades imo. The (second) version of 'Robin of Sherwood's' Albion (basically a simple cruciform design with 'runes' in the blood groove, iirc) as compared to the Conan sword for instance. Though I am not at all against and elegant 'beast' pommel or two showing up here and there, or leaf and branch motifs. Have any designs in this area been 'leaked' yet on the web? -- Cian ###### Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien From: Michael@xenite.org (Michael Martinez) Subject: Re: Swords (was:are there any other movies than the Hobbit?) Organization: Xenite.Org: Science Fiction and Fantasy Message-ID: <82m2u7$3bo_004@news.uswest.net> References: <21392-384B0668-98@storefull-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <82f4eu$398_008@news.uswest.net> <384d02be.2530706@news.ecn.ab.ca> <82jbm4$10k_006@news.uswest.net> <384e3cc5.1594216@news.ecn.ab.ca> <82ltjj$1i4_022@news.uswest.net> <384E81CA.16D529A2@mediaone.net> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 40 Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:01:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.224.148.156 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 944672302 207.224.148.156 (Wed, 08 Dec 1999 10:58:22 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 10:58:22 CST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!uunet!ams.uu.net!grolier!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-out.uswest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!xenite1 In article <384E81CA.16D529A2@mediaone.net>, Cian wrote: >Michael Martinez wrote: > >> [snip] >> Now, I did have some lengthy discussion with one of WETA's artists about >> Elvish swords and Anduril, but it remains to be seen whether I've had any >> influence there. > >I'm hoping they won't be 'over fantasized', if you know what I mean, or even >over designed in general. Less is more on the blades imo. The (second) >version of 'Robin of Sherwood's' Albion (basically a simple cruciform design >with 'runes' in the blood groove, iirc) as compared to the Conan sword for >instance. Though I am not at all against and elegant 'beast' pommel or two >showing up here and there, or leaf and branch motifs. Have any designs in >this area been 'leaked' yet on the web? I've heard from several people who have seen swords made for the movie. They all said the swords were very realistic in appearance and not fanciful at all. I don't know of any Web sites which have pictures of the weapons yet. I am guessing that the swords of the Rohirrim and perhaps the Dunedain will be more-or-less broadswords, or some sort of medieval stuff (although Tolkien said all the swords were long, and not one broad sword occurs in the book). With John Howe involved, there is no knowing what travesties will be put into the hands of the actors and extras, but I don't expect them to be ornately decorated beyond what a medieval sword might look like (and some medieval swords, and renaissance swords, were works of art). But our discussions of the Elvish swords did get into the height of the Elves and Dunedain, and how that should affect the length and design of swords. We'll just have to wait and see. -- \\ // Worlds of Imagination on the Web info@xenite.org \\// FREE! Watch Internet TV shows at Xenite.Org! //\\ [http://www.xenite.org/index.htm] // \\ENITE.org...............................................