From: nweaver@ribbit.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of California, Berkeley, EECS Department Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ribbit.cs.berkeley.edu X-Trace: agate.berkeley.edu 1066845832 38469 128.32.112.203 (22 Oct 2003 18:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: nweaver@ribbit.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.vmunix.org!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!agate.berkeley.edu!agate!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34704 Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for me. Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? Thanks. -- Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu ###### From: eternal_nan@yahoo.com (Ljubisa Bajic) Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: 22 Oct 2003 17:59:38 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9b0afb2c.0310221659.72aa6298@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.139.145.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066870778 9124 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2003 00:59:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeeder.edisontel.com!fu-berlin.de!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34715 Sounds like you need a copy of the verilog standard. You can buy it on ieee's site, its about $100. Ljubisa Bajic ATI Technologies --- My opinions do not represent those of my employer. --- nweaver@ribbit.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) wrote in message news:... > Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to > start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for > me. > > Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, > something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red > (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? > > Thanks. ###### From: "Jerry" Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:19:34 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34716 There is a book that has side by side examples of code, one written in VHDL the other in Verilog. Forgot the title but I'll send it tommorow. "Nicholas C. Weaver" wrote in message news:bn6gq8$15i5$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to > start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for > me. > > Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, > something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red > (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? > > Thanks. > -- > Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu ###### From: "Jonathan Bromley" Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:06:39 +0100 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: external-2.doulos.co.uk X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066896367 10357 62.49.79.188 (23 Oct 2003 08:06:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:06:07 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34729 "Jerry" wrote in message news:vpebkap3q9m03c@corp.supernews.com... > There is a book that has side by side examples of code, one written in VHDL > the other in Verilog. > Forgot the title but I'll send it tommorow. Doug Smith, "HDL Chip Design". [*****-SELF PUBLICITY ALERT *****] > "Nicholas C. Weaver" wrote in message > news:bn6gq8$15i5$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > > Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to > > start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for > > me. > > > > Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, > > something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red > > (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? Have you looked at our Golden Reference Guides? Not for beginners, but then you're not a beginner :-) We give them away on courses, but you can buy them via the website (no e-commerce just yet, sorry; you have to fax back an order form): http://www.doulos.com/grg/index.html cheers -- Jonathan Bromley, Consultant DOULOS - Developing Design Know-how VHDL * Verilog * SystemC * Perl * Tcl/Tk * Verification * Project Services Doulos Ltd. Church Hatch, 22 Market Place, Ringwood, Hampshire, BH24 1AW, UK Tel: +44 (0)1425 471223 mail: jonathan.bromley@doulos.com Fax: +44 (0)1425 471573 Web: http://www.doulos.com The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of Doulos Ltd., unless specifically stated. ###### From: Bassman59a@yahoo.com (Andy Peters) Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: 23 Oct 2003 13:11:08 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: <9a2c3a75.0310231211.612841fb@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.221.131.16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066939868 27148 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2003 20:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.mailgate.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34745 nweaver@ribbit.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) wrote in message news:... > Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to > start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for > me. > > Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, > something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red > (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? Nicholas, I still use Palnitkar's _Verilog HDL_ book, along with Stuart Sutherland's _Verilog 2001_ book and reference guides (which came with the book). There may be an updated version of the former -- I bought it in 1996 -- but it still covers most of the stuff that'll jog your memory. The latter explicitly details the differences between Verilog-95 and Verilog-2001. You probably want a copy of Janick Bergeron's _Writing Test Benches_, too, as it has a lot of good stuff. -a ###### From: "Geoffrey Mortimer" Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: The Luddite Needs Reference Books... Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:16:34 +0200 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.42.138.32 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067004996 31876904 193.42.138.32 (16 [163942]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Path: redlance.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.bme.hu!newsfeed.iif.hu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!193.42.138.32!not-for-mail Xref: redlance.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:34769 "Nicholas C. Weaver" wrote in message news:bn6gq8$15i5$1@agate.berkeley.edu... > Luddite Me, who's forgotten most of the Verilog he once knew, needs to > start doing serious HDL-based design. No more schematic-orphans for > me. > > Are there good reference books for Verilog or VHDL? Ideally, > something akin to Java in a Nutshell (Java), the Post Script Red > (language reference) and Blue (tutorial and cookbook) series, or K&R? > > Thanks. > -- > Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu This may be of use: http://www.vol.webnexus.com