From: "Márcio Longaray" Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Samll quantities ordering Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:42:33 -0300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.215.212.101 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 982929802 200.215.212.101 (Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:03:22 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:03:22 CDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4802 Hi there Where on Earth can I order small quantities (ten or even less) of either Altera's or Xilinx' or whatever from? I contacted Altera's Distributor but their minimal order is of US$500, a nonsense for me. Thanks in advance for the kind directions. Yours, Márcio, Brazil ###### From: Philip Freidin Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering Organization: Fliptronics Reply-To: philip@fliptronics.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 33 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:31:43 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.103.85.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: news.pacbell.net 982963915 216.103.85.188 (Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:31:55 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:31:55 PST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!206.13.28.143!news.pacbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4829 Try DigiKey for Xilinx parts. www.digikey.com and http://info.digikey.com/T011/V4/SectB.pdf on page 178 Philip Freidin On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:42:33 -0300, "Márcio Longaray" wrote: >Hi there > >Where on Earth can I order small quantities (ten or even less) of either >Altera's or Xilinx' or whatever from? > >I contacted Altera's Distributor but their minimal order is of US$500, a >nonsense for me. > >Thanks in advance for the kind directions. > > >Yours, > >Márcio, Brazil > Philip Freidin Fliptronics ###### Sender: eric@ruckus.brouhaha.com From: Eric Smith Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering References: X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false. Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. Date: 23 Feb 2001 15:59:46 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: ruckus.brouhaha.com X-Trace: 23 Feb 2001 16:00:39 -0800, ruckus.brouhaha.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.kjsl.com!news.spies.com!ruckus.brouhaha.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4825 Philip Freidin writes: > Try DigiKey for Xilinx parts. > www.digikey.com > and > http://info.digikey.com/T011/V4/SectB.pdf > on page 178 Sure would be nice if they had Spartan II parts. (It would be nice if *anyone* had Spartan II parts.) ###### Message-ID: <3A9790D1.69F8B9C3@earthlink.net> From: Brian Goudy Reply-To: bgoudy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 24 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:46:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 158.252.192.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 983011575 158.252.192.18 (Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:46:15 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:46:15 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4819 Hi, For Altera parts you can go with Arrow Electronics. Last time I checked Arrow had a $20/line item minimum order. Brian Goudy "Márcio Longaray" wrote: > Hi there > > Where on Earth can I order small quantities (ten or even less) of either > Altera's or Xilinx' or whatever from? > > I contacted Altera's Distributor but their minimal order is of US$500, a > nonsense for me. > > Thanks in advance for the kind directions. > > Yours, > > Márcio, Brazil ###### Message-ID: <3A9BAD92.60EB156@andraka.com> From: Ray Andraka Organization: Andraka Consulting Group, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:32:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.13.238.93 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.wwck1.ri.home.com 983280752 24.13.238.93 (Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:32:32 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:32:32 PST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news1.wwck1.ri.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4855 Try Avnet or Insight. I'm pretty sure you can get XC2S50's fairly readily now, at least in the fg256 packaging. I've got several customers using these parts, and they do not seem to be having any trouble getting them any more. Digi-key has always seemed to be a generation behind on their listed xilinx parts. They may be able to get the parts for you on a special order if you call them however (you'll pay quite a bit more than if you got them direct from insight or avnet, but I've had very good success with digikey in that respect). As I understand it, there was a fab problem with the S2 line that choked the supply. I think we are hitting the tail end of that now (finally). Eric Smith wrote: > > Philip Freidin writes: > > Try DigiKey for Xilinx parts. > > www.digikey.com > > and > > http://info.digikey.com/T011/V4/SectB.pdf > > on page 178 > > Sure would be nice if they had Spartan II parts. (It would be nice > if *anyone* had Spartan II parts.) -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email ray@andraka.com http://www.andraka.com or http://www.fpga-guru.com ###### Sender: eric@ruckus.brouhaha.com From: Eric Smith Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering References: <3A9BAD92.60EB156@andraka.com> X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false. Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. Date: 27 Feb 2001 11:59:45 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: ruckus.brouhaha.com X-Trace: 27 Feb 2001 12:01:21 -0800, ruckus.brouhaha.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!xfer10.netnews.com!netnews.com!newsin.iconnet.net!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!enews.sgi.com!news.spies.com!ruckus.brouhaha.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4898 Ray Andraka writes: > Try Avnet or Insight. I'm pretty sure you can get XC2S50's fairly > readily now, at least in the fg256 packaging. I've got several > customers using these parts, and they do not seem to be having any > trouble getting them any more. Search results for XC2S50 on www.avnetmarshall.com: 2 variants listed as "Not available for ordering" 12 variants listed as "No Stock" All 14 give a lead time of "No information available" Search results for XC2S50 on www.arrow.com: 0 results - strange, they've had them in the database before Search results for XC2S50 on www.insight-electronics.com: 13 variants list "Qty Avail" as "Ask" 1 variant (XC2S50-5PQ208C lists "Qty Avail" as 317 and Unit Cost as $14.75 Wow, success!!!! (Now someone else will buy them all before I do.) In other news, just yesterday I received the BED-SPARTAN2+ kit I ordered from Burch Electronic Designs on the 16th. Not bad for getting a product from Australia to the US. They said allow 4-10 working days, and it's been eight. I haven't fired it up yet, but it looks like a pretty useful eval board. It has an XC2S200PQ208. I'm not sure how to match the rest of the markings to the part numbers from the data sheet. There's a "5C" by itself on the last line, so I'm guessing that the actual part numer is XC2S200-5PQ208C. The pins are brought out to dual-row square pin headers, and there's a fair bit of pad-per-hole prototyping space. There are two voltage regulators, a 24 MHz oscillator (socketed), a socket for a config EEPROM, and a download header. It also comes with a parallel download cable, and a mini CD-ROM of the WebPack ISE software. (Of course, you can download that free from the Xilinx web site, but in a misguided attempt to make that easy, they've constructed a complicated download manager that makes it difficult.) Seems like quite a value for about US $120. I'm surprised to see from Burch's web site that this product is now completely sold out, and that they're introducing a new model on March 9. I wonder what will be different. Anyhow, sorry if my message sounds like an advertisement, I don't actually have any affiliation with Burch's. I'm just happy to finally get my hands on a Spartan II for development. ###### Message-ID: <3A9C0A34.27A4AF7C@wanabe.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:12:36 +0100 From: Reinoud Organization: remains troubled X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: Samll quantities ordering References: <3A9BAD92.60EB156@andraka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12dyn230.delft.casema.net X-Trace: reader4 983308658 18346 212.64.19.230 X-Complaints-To: http://www.casema.net/abuse X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to include a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Server-Date: 27 Feb 2001 21:17:38 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!cleanfeed.casema.net!news.casema.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:4902 Eric Smith wrote: > In other news, just yesterday I received the BED-SPARTAN2+ kit I ordered > from Burch Electronic Designs on the 16th. > ... > Seems like quite a value for about US $120. Yep, really nice board and service, unbelievable price :-). You even get a Xilinx-compatible parallel download cable with it... The only thing I have doubts about is how long the company can stay afloat this way ;-). Needless to say, I'm not being paid to write this. - Reinoud