From: "Jan Gray" Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: "Xilinx Adds FPGA Support to Free Web Design Tools" Lines: 16 Organization: Gray Research LLC X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-Trace: /wzbxc0A615pOws2QOh6VMTnqfTE2ycdzTC9LgUnOv643hFhknrx5penR0kmWt/HGFv0S/oMhoFP!h2BCs7ojDl12E0GoHdE+BmyVhGSiL2ntbHRWotMibPSTCWNsHd4BNwRBGjh3ElwykHfnC6HDBF8L!zBo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:10:13 GMT Distribution: world Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 15:10:13 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:1522 "Xilinx, Inc. today announced full support of the entire Spartan-II FPGA family as well as the 300,000 system gate Virtex XCV300E FPGA in the WebPACK ISE tool suite. The free downloadable software, previously available only for Xilinx CPLDs, now offers a zero-cost-of-entry point for designing with Xilinx FPGAs." See http://www.xilinx.com/prs_rls/webfpga.html. (Yippee!) Jan Gray Gray Research LLC www.fpgacpu.org ###### From: rickman Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: "Xilinx Adds FPGA Support to Free Web Design Tools" Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:22:13 -0400 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <39D8C445.BFF455D2@yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: svj2mqwT4W+hef1K9xUGK2B7fU+IQL9eNtF9FEgHUMU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Oct 2000 17:22:00 GMT X-Accept-Language: en X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:1509 Someone should tell the Xilinx product people about this. Looking at the website shows no indication of any of this on the web pages that describe the WebPack ISE software. I also noticed that there are big differences other than just the chips targeted. The existing WebPack does not include FPGA Express synthesis, (not sure about XST, whatever that is) but the press release indicates that it now includes a full HDL capability. "WebPACK ISE is an Integrated Synthesis Environment?, which includes VHDL, Verilog and ABEL synthesis, HDL simulation and test vector generation..." Opps, reading the full press release says, "is scheduled for release in mid-October 2000". So I guess we will have to wait a few more weeks... Now if we can just get support for numeric_std! :) Jan Gray wrote: > > "Xilinx, Inc. today announced full support of the entire Spartan-II FPGA > family as well as the 300,000 system gate Virtex XCV300E FPGA in the WebPACK > ISE tool suite. The free downloadable software, previously available only > for Xilinx CPLDs, now offers a zero-cost-of-entry point for designing with > Xilinx FPGAs." > > See http://www.xilinx.com/prs_rls/webfpga.html. > > (Yippee!) > > Jan Gray > Gray Research LLC > www.fpgacpu.org -- Rick "rickman" Collins rick.collins@XYarius.com Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY removed. Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company Specializing in DSP and FPGA design Arius 4 King Ave Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7772 Voice 301-682-7666 FAX Internet URL http://www.arius.com ###### Message-ID: <39D8E0D3.7B2C759@algor.co.uk> From: Rick Filipkiewicz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: "Xilinx Adds FPGA Support to Free Web Design Tools" References: <39D8C445.BFF455D2@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Algorithmics Ltd. Cache-Post-Path: mudchute.algor.co.uk!unknown@borough.algor.co.uk X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b2 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Lines: 16 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:24:03 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.254.210.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 970514642 62.254.210.251 (Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:24:02 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:24:02 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!btnet-peer0!btnet!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:1510 rickman wrote: > I also noticed that there are big differences other than just the chips targeted. The existing > WebPack does not include FPGA Express synthesis, (not sure about XST, whatever that is) but the > press release indicates that it now includes a full HDL capability. > -- > XST, Xilinx's own Verilog & VHDL synth tool, is now just about useable since the 3.1i release has a decent-ish manual. It also runs nicely from the command line. I'm going to try & benchmark it against Synplify fairly soon. Now, Xilinx, how about actually getting some SpartanII's out the door so we can use the new free s/w. ###### From: Nicolas Matringe Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: "Xilinx Adds FPGA Support to Free Web Design Tools" Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:45:47 +0200 Organization: IPricot European Headquarters (Formerly DotCom SA) Lines: 15 Message-ID: <39D98EAB.5819E419@ipricot.com> References: <39D8C445.BFF455D2@yahoo.com> <39D8E0D3.7B2C759@algor.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.dotcom.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.dotcom.fr!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:1536 Rick Filipkiewicz a écrit : > XST, Xilinx's own Verilog & VHDL synth tool, is now just about useable > since the 3.1i release has a decent-ish manual. It also runs nicely > from the command line. I'm going to try & benchmark it against > Synplify fairly soon. Hi Tell me about your benchmarking so that I can do it against Leonardo -- Nicolas MATRINGE IPricot European Headquarters Conception electronique 16 rue du Moulin des Bruyeres Tel +33 1 46 67 51 11 F-92400 COURBEVOIE - FRANCE Fax +33 1 46 67 51 01 http://www.IPricot.com/ ###### Message-ID: <39D9D440.56D3A62C@planetc.com> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:42:40 -0400 From: Jerry English X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Subject: Re: "Xilinx Adds FPGA Support to Free Web Design Tools" References: <39D8C445.BFF455D2@yahoo.com> <39D8E0D3.7B2C759@algor.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.65.97.237 X-Trace: 3 Oct 2000 08:59:29 -0400, 207.65.97.237 Organization: Planet Systems Inc. Usenet Via Satellite! Lines: 18 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.twtelecom.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!news.planetc.com!207.65.97.237 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch comp.arch.fpga:1534 Why not post or make available your files so those with other tools can benchmark it also? Rick Filipkiewicz wrote: > rickman wrote: > > > I also noticed that there are big differences other than just the chips targeted. The existing > > WebPack does not include FPGA Express synthesis, (not sure about XST, whatever that is) but the > > press release indicates that it now includes a full HDL capability. > > -- > > > > XST, Xilinx's own Verilog & VHDL synth tool, is now just about useable since the 3.1i release has a > decent-ish manual. It also runs nicely from the command line. I'm going to try & benchmark it against > Synplify fairly soon. > > Now, Xilinx, how about actually getting some SpartanII's out the door so we can use the new free s/w.