Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: TOPS20 installed, now where is EMACS Summary: EMACS on TOPS20 query Sender: mrr@reistad.priv.no Keywords: emacs tops20 klh20 X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) From: root@acer.reistad.priv.no (Charlie Root) Originator: root@acer.reistad.priv.no (Charlie Root) Lines: 27 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:40:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.71.26.6 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader3.kpnqwest.net 1016912418 193.71.26.6 (Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:40:18 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:40:18 MET Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader3.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10778 Thanks to Mr Supnik's excellent emulator I have now gotten TOPS20 installed. Most of the process came back to me; I only had some small troubles regarding disk formatting and galaxy configuration, but that is exactly as I remember it on pdp10 serial 2419 that I used to use. It brought back to me in a giant flash how much I miss PTYCON. But, now to the software I still keep missingint the TOPS20 setup. Most of all it is EMACS. THE emacs to be preceise. With TECO and all. I don't see it anywhere. Don't tell med we have lost it! Also, DCL and MIC extensions to the exec; the full compiler set including SAIL, RATFOR etc. Any pointers, or do I have to go back to my old aliumnu and have them dig up decades old tapes? Best regards, Morten Reistad ###### From: Rich Alderson Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS20 installed, now where is EMACS Date: 24 Mar 2002 20:26:53 -0500 Organization: Systems Administration, XKL LLC, Redmond WA 98052 Lines: 14 Sender: alderson+news@panix1.panix.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1017019575 28698 166.84.1.1 (25 Mar 2002 01:26:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:26:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!panix!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10785 root@acer.reistad.priv.no (Charlie Root) writes: > Most of all it is EMACS. THE emacs to be preceise. With TECO and all. > I don't see it anywhere. Don't tell med we have lost it! It's not lost. I sent a copy of the latest version (EMACS 170, TECO 1220) to Tim Shoppa sometime last year, and he kindly put it on his archives. I seem to recall being reminded that I'd left something out; if someone will let me know, I'll make sure Tim gets that, too. -- Rich Alderson Last LOTS Tops-20 Systems Programmer, 1984-1991 Current maintainer, MIT TECO EMACS (v. 170) -at XKL dot COM Chief systems administrator, XKL LLC ###### From: Alan Greig Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS20 installed, now where is EMACS Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:48:01 +0000 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-792.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!feedme.news.mediaways.net!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10792 On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:40:18 GMT, root@acer.reistad.priv.no (Charlie Root) wrote: > >Also, DCL and MIC extensions to the exec; the full compiler set including >SAIL, RATFOR etc. I think you mean PCL extensions? The TOPS-20 V7 distribution has them somewhere. I recall first building an extended PCL EXEC with V5 so the sources, .RELs were available at least that far back. Problem is that won't run under simh KS-10. But you can probably run an extended V5 EXEC under V4.1. Note "probably".. You'' get errors if it tries to use a JSYS not in V4.1 but not fatal. . > >Any pointers, or do I have to go back to my old aliumnu and have them dig >up decades old tapes? > > >Best regards, > >Morten Reistad > > > > -- Alan ###### Message-ID: <3C9F686C.DCB2D1C@trailing-edge.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:11:56 -0400 From: Tim Shoppa Organization: Trailing Edge Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (X11; I; OpenVMS V7.2 AlphaServer 1200 5/533 4MB) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS20 installed, now where is EMACS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.73.218.130 X-Trace: 1017097917 reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net 26448 63.73.218.130 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!newsfeed.it.ip-plus.net!news.it.ip-plus.net!news.it.colt.net!peernews2.colt.net!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-hub.siol.net!zur.uu.net!ash.uu.net!spool0902.news.uu.net!reader0901.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10783 Rich Alderson wrote: > > root@acer.reistad.priv.no (Charlie Root) writes: > > > Most of all it is EMACS. THE emacs to be preceise. With TECO and all. > > I don't see it anywhere. Don't tell med we have lost it! > > It's not lost. I sent a copy of the latest version (EMACS 170, TECO 1220) to > Tim Shoppa sometime last year, and he kindly put it on his archives. It's not linked to yet from the PDP-10 archive home page; I'll try to get around to it Very Soon Now. Tim. ###### From: "Zane H. Healy" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS20 installed, now where is EMACS Date: 26 Mar 2002 02:53:52 GMT Organization: Aracnet Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-363.newsdawg.com User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.19 (i686)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10784 Charlie Root wrote: > Most of all it is EMACS. THE emacs to be preceise. With TECO and all. > I don't see it anywhere. Don't tell med we have lost it! Check http://pdp10.nocrew.org/ for EMACS v170. Zane