From: berdpee@ami.com.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:50:14 GMT Message-ID: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: c0s19.ami.com.au X-Trace: 16 Feb 2002 06:50:29 +0800, c0s19.ami.com.au Lines: 10 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!usenet.per.paradox.net.au!c0s19.ami.com.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10378 Seems to me that if all you talkers got together and shared the work Neil Franklin is doing to implement the KA-10 in an FPGA and some wrote the new device service routines for SCSI hard drives CD-ROMS and the VGA monitors, we would be a lot closer to seeing this project completed. I would point out if Linus Torvalds can motivate so many to help produce Linux by co-operation, I suggest you do the same. aeolus ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 02 09:49:30 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVahOwgzP0UAST1sFP1tBq7nVXZb+cuAV86VtxlSa4IKjgf59igonCXS X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Feb 2002 12:03:46 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-42 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10382 In article <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au>, berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: >Seems to me that if all you talkers got together and shared the work One of the worst flavors of human beings are those who insist that everybody else do the work. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 02 08:12:41 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbn2dsqzMi0E8YeZOmq+KtI4g25bCZcrAbUrYSkGaNYTxif0yVT5oKO X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Feb 2002 10:27:07 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-42 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10407 In article <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca>, Ben Franchuk wrote: >berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: >> >> Dear Barbara, >> >> Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the >> US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. I am doing my best to >> become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA >> design. On the software side I would do more if time permitted but >> there are only 24 hrs in a day. Information is far more scarce where I >> am than where you gurus are which makes software design very >> difficult. > >Funny, Australia makes one of the best FPGA proto-type boards >on the market. http://www.burched.com.au/index.html Australia >and the UK seem to be the only places where people who still >do electronics as hobby anymore. > Some of the -10's best people were in Australia. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: "Scott L. Baker" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:27:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.26.53.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1013876820 216.26.53.226 (Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:27:00 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:27:00 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:27:00 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10383 Hi, I would like to learn more about this KA-10 FPGA project. Is there a webpage that describes it? Thanks, Scott Baker ###### From: Ben Franchuk Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:51:36 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3C6E8E17.E029E438@jetnet.ab.ca> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.online.be!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10373 One item that needs to be addressed is I/O of the system. Does one reproduce old I/O for 110 baud TTY's and tiny HD's or develop new I/O devices? Also is OS's out for PDP-10's adaptable for other hardware like X-terminals and CD-ROMS? -- Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html ###### From: "Scott L. Baker" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:57:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.26.53.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1013882230 216.26.53.226 (Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:57:10 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:57:10 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:57:10 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10379 http://neil.franklin.ch/Projects/PDP-10/ ###### From: berdpee@ami.com.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:51:51 GMT Message-ID: <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: c0s14.ami.com.au X-Trace: 17 Feb 2002 06:52:03 +0800, c0s14.ami.com.au Lines: 30 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!feedme.news.mediaways.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!usenet.per.paradox.net.au!c0s14.ami.com.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10406 Dear Barbara, Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. I am doing my best to become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA design. On the software side I would do more if time permitted but there are only 24 hrs in a day. Information is far more scarce where I am than where you gurus are which makes software design very difficult. Regards, Rolie Baldock. On Sat, 16 Feb 02 09:49:30 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au>, berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: > >>Seems to me that if all you talkers got together and shared the work > > >One of the worst flavors of human beings are those who insist >that everybody else do the work. > >/BAH > >Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. aeolus ###### From: berdpee@ami.com.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:55:34 GMT Message-ID: <3c6ee2aa.2770434@news.ami.com.au> References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3C6E8E17.E029E438@jetnet.ab.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: c0s14.ami.com.au X-Trace: 17 Feb 2002 06:55:46 +0800, c0s14.ami.com.au Lines: 20 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!news.he.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!64.42.15.2!HSNX.atgi.net!newsfeed.iinet.net.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!usenet.per.paradox.net.au!c0s14.ami.com.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10408 Hello Ben, My point exactly. The first requirement is to find out how to drive the various I/O devices and that is the difficult part. If you have the knowledge it is just hard slog to write the service routines. Regards. On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:51:36 -0700, Ben Franchuk wrote: >One item that needs to be addressed is I/O of the system. Does one >reproduce old I/O for 110 baud TTY's and tiny HD's or develop new I/O >devices? Also is OS's out for PDP-10's adaptable for other hardware like >X-terminals and CD-ROMS? >-- >Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * >www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html aeolus ###### From: Ben Franchuk Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:34:30 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-hub.siol.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!nerim.net!isdnet!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10405 berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: > > Dear Barbara, > > Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the > US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. I am doing my best to > become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA > design. On the software side I would do more if time permitted but > there are only 24 hrs in a day. Information is far more scarce where I > am than where you gurus are which makes software design very > difficult. Funny, Australia makes one of the best FPGA proto-type boards on the market. http://www.burched.com.au/index.html Australia and the UK seem to be the only places where people who still do electronics as hobby anymore. -- Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: 17 Feb 2002 23:41:58 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 55 Message-ID: <6ubsen6895.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 1013985718 2245 10.0.3.2 (17 Feb 2002 22:41:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Feb 2002 22:41:58 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10410 berdpee@ami.com.au writes: > Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the > US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. > Information is far more scarce where I > am than where you gurus are which makes software design very > difficult. Well Switzerland is no better than Australia in that respect. Luckily the WWW is WorldWide, so anyone anywhere can get the info. > I am doing my best to > become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA > design. Why not go straight to FPGAs? CPLDs are sort of outdated. OK, they are good enough for simple glue logic replacement. > On the software side I would do more if time permitted but > there are only 24 hrs in a day. It is called time managment. Split up those 7*24 per week so that, after the neccessary things (= sleep/rest, eating/clothing/house) are taken care of, the hobbies get enough of the rest. Job is the thing that usually gets too much time and can lose some. For the last 4 years I have been working an 80% (4 days/week) sysadmin job and will in May be changing to an new 40% (2 days/week) job programming. Less time and less frustrating (so needing less rest to recover). I actually requre about 50..55% to make as much money as I spend, so I can afford to live off of the 4 years over-earning for about 6..12 years. I just had to learn how to exit the consumerism ratrace (do I really need that new thing?) to gain life quality and freedom in return. Definitely recommended! And with the extra time I will be able to start my sister project to make my own open source FPGA toolset. And my new employer, whose _managment_ actively believes in open source software, is willing to start paying towards extending that, one it becomes usable for projects at work. So that will bring me back up to 60% before 5 years are over. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery ###### From: "David G. Conroy" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> Organization: Used only for posts to newsgroups X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.123.169.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com 1014005222 ST000 66.123.169.126 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 23:07:02 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 23:07:02 EST X-UserInfo1: SCSYQN_@O@UACQPXMZKDM^P@VZ\LPCXLLBWLOOAFBATBTSUBYFWEAE[YJLYPIWKHTFCMZKVMB^[Z^DOBRVVMOSPFHNSYXVDIE@X\BUC@GTSX@DL^GKFFHQCCE\G[JJBMYDYIJCZM@AY]GNGPJD]YNNW\GSX^GSCKHA[]@CCB\[@LATPD\L@J\\PF]VR[QPJN Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:07:02 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr21.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10436 I'm actually making progress on my design. I'm very close to having a spec for the programmer-visible parts of the system (which means I have puzzled through the tricky parts of the architecture, like getting the correct saved PC and flags when a trap instruction causes another trap, or when a trap instruction gets a page failure) and a spec for the associated microprocessor (which means I have reasonable proposals for the data path and for the micro-sequencer). The current plan is to build the serial ports, the disk, and the network with modern parts, and reveal the details to new device handling software (this is what I have always done in my clones, and this time I don't have reverse-engineer the interfaces from the binaries). ---------- In article <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au>, berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: > Seems to me that if all you talkers got together and shared the work > Neil Franklin is doing to implement the KA-10 in an FPGA and some > wrote the new device service routines for SCSI hard drives CD-ROMS and > the VGA monitors, we would be a lot closer to seeing this project > completed. I would point out if Linus Torvalds can motivate so many > to help produce Linux by co-operation, I suggest you do the same. > > > > aeolus ###### From: berdpee@ami.com.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:09:14 GMT Message-ID: <3c70ee9b.5269426@news.ami.com.au> References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: c0s02.ami.com.au X-Trace: 18 Feb 2002 20:09:27 +0800, c0s02.ami.com.au Lines: 36 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.uwa.edu.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!usenet.per.paradox.net.au!c0s02.ami.com.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10417 Thankyou Barbara, We do try very hard to be involved with the best of technology. Regards, Rolie Baldock. On Sun, 17 Feb 02 08:12:41 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >In article <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca>, > Ben Franchuk wrote: >>berdpee@ami.com.au wrote: >>> >>> Dear Barbara, >>> >>> Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the >>> US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. I am doing my best to >>> become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA >>> design. On the software side I would do more if time permitted but >>> there are only 24 hrs in a day. Information is far more scarce where I >>> am than where you gurus are which makes software design very >>> difficult. >> >>Funny, Australia makes one of the best FPGA proto-type boards >>on the market. http://www.burched.com.au/index.html Australia >>and the UK seem to be the only places where people who still >>do electronics as hobby anymore. >> >Some of the -10's best people were in Australia. > >/BAH > >Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. aeolus ###### From: berdpee@ami.com.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:13:46 GMT Message-ID: <3c70ef06.5376355@news.ami.com.au> References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> <6ubsen6895.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: c0s02.ami.com.au X-Trace: 18 Feb 2002 20:14:01 +0800, c0s02.ami.com.au Lines: 69 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!hub1.nntpserver.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator-la!news-in-la.newsfeeds.com!news-in.superfeed.net!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.uwa.edu.au!nntp.waia.asn.au!usenet.per.paradox.net.au!c0s02.ami.com.au Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10416 Neil old buddy it's called "walking before you run". I was lucky to be NURSED through my first CPLD by a wonderful lady in Lattice Semiconductor. My present problems are in Power Electronics and here the CPLD is the appropriate device to use. Regards, Rolie Baldock. On 17 Feb 2002 23:41:58 +0100, Neil Franklin wrote: >berdpee@ami.com.au writes: > >> Being in Western Australia is a distinct disadvantage to being in the >> US "HUB" of things, as I think you will agree. > >> Information is far more scarce where I >> am than where you gurus are which makes software design very >> difficult. > >Well Switzerland is no better than Australia in that respect. Luckily >the WWW is WorldWide, so anyone anywhere can get the info. > > >> I am doing my best to >> become familiar with CPLD design and may one day venture into FPGA >> design. > >Why not go straight to FPGAs? > >CPLDs are sort of outdated. OK, they are good enough for simple glue >logic replacement. > > >> On the software side I would do more if time permitted but >> there are only 24 hrs in a day. > >It is called time managment. Split up those 7*24 per week so that, >after the neccessary things (= sleep/rest, eating/clothing/house) are >taken care of, the hobbies get enough of the rest. > > >Job is the thing that usually gets too much time and can lose some. > >For the last 4 years I have been working an 80% (4 days/week) sysadmin >job and will in May be changing to an new 40% (2 days/week) job programming. >Less time and less frustrating (so needing less rest to recover). > >I actually requre about 50..55% to make as much money as I spend, so I >can afford to live off of the 4 years over-earning for about 6..12 years. >I just had to learn how to exit the consumerism ratrace (do I really need >that new thing?) to gain life quality and freedom in return. Definitely >recommended! > >And with the extra time I will be able to start my sister project to >make my own open source FPGA toolset. And my new employer, whose >_managment_ actively believes in open source software, is willing >to start paying towards extending that, one it becomes usable for >projects at work. So that will bring me back up to 60% before 5 years >are over. > > >-- >Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ >Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer >- Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery aeolus ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 02 10:07:43 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca> <5D95B09E2BADF615.CC785D026260AAC1.6DDA08E52FD6A805@lp.airnews.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYDMtXZaTFuKhpgVpDfkM9sYKkYpQK2RogH4Z74Vy2grPWRQWX37w0r X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Feb 2002 12:22:58 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-171 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10457 In article <5D95B09E2BADF615.CC785D026260AAC1.6DDA08E52FD6A805@lp.airnews.net>, huw.davies@kerberos.davies.net.au wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> Some of the -10's best people were in Australia. > >Well, not speaking for myself, but some still are.... I think JMF enjoyed the Australian DECUS the most. That trip allowed him to literally travel around the world. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: huw.davies@kerberos.davies.net.au Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: A new FPGA housed PDP-10 Date: 22 Feb 2002 07:28:07 GMT Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Lines: 12 Sender: Huw Davies Message-ID: <5D95B09E2BADF615.CC785D026260AAC1.6DDA08E52FD6A805@lp.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: References: <3c6d8f09.2210466@news.ami.com.au> <3c6ee146.2414562@news.ami.com.au> <3C6EEC86.43BBE2FE@jetnet.ab.ca> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Fri Feb 22 01:28:07 2002 NNTP-Posting-Host: !Z7UV1k-VsoT1dM@W`H&E-<*) (Encoded at Airnews!) User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.18 (alpha)) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!feed.newsfeeds.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!nnxp1.twtelecom.net!news-east.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.airnews.net!cabal10.airnews.net!cabal1.airnews.net!news-f.iadfw.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:10451 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > Some of the -10's best people were in Australia. Well, not speaking for myself, but some still are.... -- Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies@kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"