From: sword7@speakeasy.org Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: TOPS-10 7.04 on TS10 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:39:18 -0000 Message-ID: Sender: Timothy Stark Summary: User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.19 (i686)) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 33 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!schlund.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:7864 Hello folks: Since I learned something from one of articles on this newsgroup, I suspected that unconfigured SYSJOB.INI cause OPR, REACT, etc to hang up forever. I removed DTELDR with associated lines and rename 'R DEC:MIC' to 'R SYS:MIC'. I rebooted TOPS-10 and what happened?? OPR finally responsed with some annoucements. I was able to run REACT without any problems. However, when I pressed '^C', TS10 emulator crashed into segmentation fault (core dumped). Also, it sometimes freeze up forever when OPR attempted to run and it refuses to response my ^C keys. I had to kill TS10 emulator to get out of it by entered 'exit' on TS10> prompt. I entered 'gdb ts10 core' and found that it bombed out in p10_vRead function by attempted to retrieve PTE data from cache table. So I detected the mess in PC word (left halfword). It said '01000601070'. I am working on it now... However, I found a bug in unconfigured SYSJOB.INI that cause Galaxy daemons to hung up forever in all PDP10 emulators (KS10 section). On KLH10 (KL10), it worked fine (TWONKY - TOPS-10 7.04). I removed DTELDR with associated lines and renamed DEC: to SYS: in MIC line. All problems finally disappeared. -- Tim Stark -- Timothy Stark <>< Inet: sword7@speakeasy.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible) ###### From: sword7@speakeasy.org Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 7.04 on TS10 - Finally successful! Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:07:49 -0000 Message-ID: Sender: Timothy Stark References: User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.19 (i686)) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 41 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed.nextra.ch!news.nextra.ch!nextra.at!newsfeed4.cidera.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:7876 sword7@speakeasy.org wrote: > Also, it sometimes freeze up forever when OPR attempted to run and > it refuses to response my ^C keys. I had to kill TS10 emulator to get > out of it by entered 'exit' on TS10> prompt. > I entered 'gdb ts10 core' and found that it bombed out in p10_vRead > function by attempted to retrieve PTE data from cache table. So I detected > the mess in PC word (left halfword). It said '01000601070'. I am working > on it now... Good news! I found a bug in TS10 (KS10 section) and fixed it. I changed a line in defs.h: From: #define DO_JUMP(newAddr) PC = newAddr To: #define DO_JUMP(newAddr) PC = VMA(newAddr) After it was done, all problems disappeared! I re-enabled cache back and it worked fine now. ^C keys now worked fine. Barb, I finally found a bug in unconfigured SYSJOB.INI that is designed for KL10 processor. It did not work on KS10 processor. I made changes in SYSJOB.INI by removed DTELDR with associated lines and renamed DEC: to SYS: in MIC line. I figured that bug out for a year! Whew. I was able bring TOPS-10 v7.04 up and running without any problems. Also I tested mail server (MX) and it worked fine. I now was able send and receive e-mail messages. Thank you for your help. -- Tim Stark P.S. I will upload TS10 stable version into my ftp site soon. -- Timothy Stark <>< Inet: sword7@speakeasy.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible) ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 7.04 on TS10 - Finally successful! Date: Mon, 03 Dec 01 10:16:55 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: <9ufqjn$lhg$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZGTCKZlyYlCmIzgOiPb+FZI3j1YHHbCm77Shdm5yjgX5Gvurb3uG3R X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Dec 2001 12:19:03 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-177 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:7935 In article , sword7@speakeasy.org wrote: >sword7@speakeasy.org wrote: >Barb, I finally found a bug in unconfigured SYSJOB.INI that is >designed for KL10 processor. It did not work on KS10 processor. That just shows that we didn't do our testing very well. >I made changes in SYSJOB.INI by removed DTELDR with associated lines The fact that this hung the system (well, GALAXY) is a bug, IMO. I don't understand why DTELDR getting an error (that's my assumption) should wedge IPCF traffic. I didn't think that DTELDR even knew about software interrupts. >and renamed DEC: to SYS: in MIC line. This is just plain ordinary stupid on our part. I have no idea how the ersatz device DEC: got into a system file. > .. I figured that bug out for a year! >Whew. Yea. No kidding! > >I was able bring TOPS-10 v7.04 up and running without any problems. Also >I tested mail server (MX) and it worked fine. I now was able send and >receive e-mail messages. Good. However, since you have proven that we didn't do our job testing 7.04, there may be other invisible rocks to trip over. > >Thank you for your help. I didn't help at all with this one. That new guy (he's new to me anyway) figured it all out. I lost his post while I was gone so I'll use this opportunity to give him kudos and welcome. :-) /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.