From: Johnny Eriksson Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Announcement: Date: 01 Oct 2001 11:54:48 +0200 Lines: 31 Sender: bygg@hector-lector.stacken.kth.se Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hector-lector.stacken.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!195.54.122.107!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!uio.no!news.kth.se!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:6958 First, there is a new version of backwr. This new version supports input files in ANSI-ASCII, with or without newline -> CRLF conversion, and also files in CORE-DUMP format. This last format may solve the problem people have had with transferring binary files. See ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/pdp10/backwr/ I have also made a slight modification to simh: This implements, for the PDP10, a DEUNA (ethernet) card on the unibus. The mod consists of the following files: pdp10_deuna.c - interface to the pdp10 emulator. dec_deuna.c - the actual card emulating code. eth_dummy.c - ethernet backend, as in /dev/null. eth_bpf.c - ethernet backend that talks bpf. See ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/pdp10/simh-deuna/ I would right now label this code as early beta, but is has transferred packets with some success, as in "the pdp10 has answerd arp queries". There are many things still missing from the deuna code. It should be an easy task to write pdp11_deuna.c, anyone interested? The IP stack for Tops-10 is not yet in such a shape that I would label it fit for human consumption. --Johnny ###### From: Bob Supnik Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Announcement: Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 08:46:47 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 43 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:6973 Ethernet! That is very cool... the structure should be easy to adapt to the -11, and the VAX (or rather, CVAX will need a DEQNA). Getting the actual Ethernet code onto the various operating systems will be interesting! /Bob On 01 Oct 2001 11:54:48 +0200, Johnny Eriksson wrote: > >First, there is a new version of backwr. This new version supports input >files in ANSI-ASCII, with or without newline -> CRLF conversion, and also >files in CORE-DUMP format. This last format may solve the problem people >have had with transferring binary files. > >See ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/pdp10/backwr/ > >I have also made a slight modification to simh: > >This implements, for the PDP10, a DEUNA (ethernet) card on the unibus. >The mod consists of the following files: > >pdp10_deuna.c - interface to the pdp10 emulator. >dec_deuna.c - the actual card emulating code. >eth_dummy.c - ethernet backend, as in /dev/null. >eth_bpf.c - ethernet backend that talks bpf. > >See ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/pdp10/simh-deuna/ > >I would right now label this code as early beta, but is has transferred >packets with some success, as in "the pdp10 has answerd arp queries". > >There are many things still missing from the deuna code. > >It should be an easy task to write pdp11_deuna.c, anyone interested? > >The IP stack for Tops-10 is not yet in such a shape that I would label >it fit for human consumption. > >--Johnny ###### Message-ID: <3BBB7573.A818A00D@enterprise.net> From: Donald Fisk Organization: The Rosen Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Announcement: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:30:43 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.161.113.77 X-Complaints-To: news@enterprise.net X-Trace: news.enterprise.net 1002242553 212.161.113.77 (Fri, 05 Oct 2001 01:42:33 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 01:42:33 BST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.enterprise.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:7025 Johnny Eriksson wrote: > > First, there is a new version of backwr. This new version supports input > files in ANSI-ASCII, with or without newline -> CRLF conversion, and also > files in CORE-DUMP format. This last format may solve the problem people > have had with transferring binary files. > > See ftp://ftp.stacken.kth.se/pub/pdp10/backwr/ > > I have also made a slight modification to simh: > > This implements, for the PDP10, a DEUNA (ethernet) card on the unibus. > The mod consists of the following files: Thread drift -- I noticed the word "Stacken" and understand that someone at the Stacken Computer Society got ITS running on a real PDP-10 there. (It's even mentioned in the Jargon file.) Is it still running, because there's a group of us trying to get a fully functioning ITS running on the SIMH? At the moment we're missing a few things and the Stacken experience would be very helpful to us. > --Johnny -- Le Hibou "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- G.B. Shaw ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question Date: Fri, 05 Oct 01 07:30:46 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 51 Message-ID: <9pk1mh$3sk$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <9nont9$9cq@dispatch.concentric.net> <9oscai$dss$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <9osojg$2ji$1@news.panix.com> <9osu2o$o9m$3@bob.news.rcn.net> <7EDB8282E50F6A8B.0467B4848504FA7A.7AEF3B3685C04463@lp.airnews.net> <9pc6hv$isl$1@bob.news.rcn.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZBtnfpg+qVpQjZdbr65clZuff1Rdru+JUbwtYa0s5jYJVTundANROK X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Oct 2001 10:23:13 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!209-122-236-84 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:7028 In article , Huw Davies wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > >> I wish I could be embarrassed that way :-). > >Warning, more personal embarressment on the way :-) ;-) > >> That's beginning to make a glimmer in my old brain. How did the >> friction work? I can't seem to remember feeding the paper under >> the equivalent of a platen nor how the paper stayed aligned. >> Maybe I just didn't tend enough 33s in my youth. > >OK, once the red rod had been passed through the paper roll and >the paper rested on the top of the ASR33. The paper was then fed >(from the bottom of the roll) into the gap below the platten. There >must have been a platten release, but my memory (brain and finger) >can't remember where the release was - I suspect on the RHS. It is all in the fingers, isn't it? I can't remember how to do TECO commands without pretending to type on the awful keyboard. > >Feed paper through (using knob on LHS connected to platten). Up >past the clear plastic shield and under the ribbon. Adjust platten >release to grip paper. Keep/start working. > >For many months after our DECsystem-10 became available, I used >to keep the paper from each session for reasons I can't understand >but I remember finding them in the bottom of my bag for a long >while. I can understand why. They were gifts from the bit gods. One never knew when some of that output might be useful or needed in order to backtrack fumble fingers. Converting from paper to video was a wrenching adjustment to make. One had to rely on brain memory to try to reproduce one's typos that caused crashes, data munging, or that mysterious disappearance of that one file that should have been kept. Besides, I never quite trusted those big machines with my unseen bits. ;-) /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.