From: Timothy Stark Subject: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16-22 (i686)) Lines: 57 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:57:25 EST Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:57:25 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news-sjo.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!e3500-chi1.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3218 Hello folks: Good news! I finally made it by almost finished my KS10 emulator. Floating instructions are not finished yet but... TOPS-10 v7.03 operating system run reliably on my KS10 emulator. I ran it on my KS10 emulator more than one hour without any problems. Whew. However, I have some problems with TOPS-10 v7.04 and TOPS-20 v4.1 operating systems. For TOPS-10 v7.03, it worked fine. No problems yet. For TOPS-10 v7.04, I was unable to communicate with galaxy daemons through OPR program. Also LOGIN did not work due the same problem. For TOPS-10 v4.1, I had some problems with interrupt handling. Some interrupt handling are stalling frequently. For example, TOPS-20 v4.1 always stopped during printing characters. They are reproductive because they always result the same. I apologized to Megan because I accidently borrowed her code to complete my emulator last summer. I completely removed her code from it. I rewrote my all instructions to access previous and current AC blocks directly not through memory routines, etc. Also I thank to Robert Supnik for providing his KS10 codes to me. I studied his KS10 code and corrected my some codes. My emulator now runs more reliably than before. It just happened. When I followed KS10 microcode source by wrote my ADJBP instruction. When I looked his KS10 code, I was shocked to notice that my code is very similar to his! Well, I assume that he did followed same KS10 microcode by writing his. :-) Now I ran KLAD tests and fixed many bugs in my some instructions. I was forced to fix some instructions that ended up more similar like his code.. That made KLAD tests happy. Yes, their tests are so tough because I had to follow KS10 microcode documentation, his KS10 code, etc. That's why they require to follow alogrithms on KS10 microcode and his KS10 code in order to work properly. I am trying work on them looks different from other codes. I apologizes for that. Well, I now decide to release my code to public and let developers to fix some instructions, etc. to resolve problems with TOPS-10 v7.04 and TOPS-20 v4.1 operating systems. I read my book about CVS. Its title is "Open Source Developement with CVS". I learned that I can use 'cvs import' to upload them into SourceForge. I will release my code to public night tomorrow. Any segguestions? Thank you! -- Tim Stark ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: Fri, 23 Feb 01 10:29:02 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbqo9MIjc+UakrDvOzmWZ0EJt8GwtZbw9bY4Z6PgZJ9ggPk3CmbmH/3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Feb 2001 11:46:25 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!209-122-236-74 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3206 In article , Timothy Stark wrote: >For TOPS-10 v7.03, it worked fine. No problems yet. Good. > >For TOPS-10 v7.04, I was unable to communicate with galaxy >daemons through OPR program. Also LOGIN did not work due the same >problem. I don't think we're going to be able to help with this without debugging it in person :-). It may be that those FP instructions have to work but I have no idea why. >Also I thank to Robert Supnik for providing his KS10 codes to me. I studied >his KS10 code and corrected my some codes. My emulator now runs more reliably >than before. > >It just happened. When I followed KS10 microcode source by wrote my ADJBP >instruction. When I looked his KS10 code, I was shocked to notice that my >code is very similar to his! Well, I assume that he did followed same KS10 >microcode by writing his. :-) > >Now I ran KLAD tests and fixed many bugs in my some instructions. I was >forced to fix some instructions that ended up more similar like his code.. >That made KLAD tests happy. Yes, their tests are so tough because I had >to follow KS10 microcode documentation, his KS10 code, etc. That's why >they require to follow alogrithms on KS10 microcode and his KS10 code in >order to work properly. I am trying work on them looks different from >other codes. I apologizes for that. I wouldn't spend my time trying to make them _look_ different. Just write the code as it's supposed to work. It really isn't surprising that two people write similar code to do the same thing. There is a difference between writing the code and doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### Sender: Timothy Stark From: Timothy Stark Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 References: User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16-22 (i686)) Lines: 8 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:07:25 EST Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:07:25 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news-sjo.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!e3500-chi1.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3217 >From: Timothy Stark Whoa. my PC's IP address! Yes, I posted this article from my own Linux machine via tin newsreader. Next time, I changed to my own e-mail address instead of my PC's IP address. -- Tim Stark ###### Message-ID: <3A9607D4.AB656BB@mail.bcpl.net> From: Ken McMonigal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 75 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:48:52 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.19.142.43 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 982910896 207.19.142.43 (Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:48:16 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:48:16 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3205 Timothy Stark wrote: > > Hello folks: > > Good news! I finally made it by almost finished my KS10 emulator. Floating > instructions are not finished yet but... TOPS-10 v7.03 operating system > run reliably on my KS10 emulator. I ran it on my KS10 emulator more than one > hour without any problems. Whew. > > However, I have some problems with TOPS-10 v7.04 and TOPS-20 v4.1 > operating systems. > > For TOPS-10 v7.03, it worked fine. No problems yet. > > For TOPS-10 v7.04, I was unable to communicate with galaxy > daemons through OPR program. Also LOGIN did not work due the same > problem. > > For TOPS-10 v4.1, I had some problems with interrupt handling. *** TOPS-20 v4.1 ? *** > Some interrupt handling are stalling frequently. For example, TOPS-20 > v4.1 always stopped during printing characters. They are reproductive > because they always result the same. > > I apologized to Megan because I accidently borrowed her code to complete > my emulator last summer. I completely removed her code from it. I > rewrote my all instructions to access previous and current AC blocks directly > not through memory routines, etc. > > Also I thank to Robert Supnik for providing his KS10 codes to me. I studied > his KS10 code and corrected my some codes. My emulator now runs more reliably > than before. > > It just happened. When I followed KS10 microcode source by wrote my ADJBP > instruction. When I looked his KS10 code, I was shocked to notice that my > code is very similar to his! Well, I assume that he did followed same KS10 > microcode by writing his. :-) > > Now I ran KLAD tests and fixed many bugs in my some instructions. I was > forced to fix some instructions that ended up more similar like his code.. > That made KLAD tests happy. Yes, their tests are so tough because I had > to follow KS10 microcode documentation, his KS10 code, etc. That's why > they require to follow alogrithms on KS10 microcode and his KS10 code in > order to work properly. I am trying work on them looks different from > other codes. I apologizes for that. > > Well, I now decide to release my code to public and let developers to fix > some instructions, etc. to resolve problems with TOPS-10 v7.04 and TOPS-20 > v4.1 operating systems. > > I read my book about CVS. Its title is "Open Source Developement with CVS". > I learned that I can use 'cvs import' to upload them into SourceForge. I > will release my code to public night tomorrow. > > Any segguestions? > > Thank you! > > -- Tim Stark Congratulations! We all thank you for your hard work! --- Ken The Algol compiler used at Case Institute of Technology, after finding 25 errors in the source (e.g., like you spelled BEGIN as BEGNI), would print: "At this point, we suggest you try re-reading the manual." ###### From: jfrancis@dungeon.engr.sgi.com (John Francis) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: 23 Feb 2001 18:14:04 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dungeon.engr.sgi.com X-Trace: fido.engr.sgi.com 982952044 6548157 130.62.53.248 (23 Feb 2001 18:14:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@fido.engr.sgi.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Feb 2001 18:14:04 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!fido.engr.sgi.com!dungeon.engr.sgi.com!jfrancis Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3207 In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: > > There is a difference between writing the code and >doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I almost failed to notice what I was doing. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 01 12:25:44 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <978dph$55v$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> <9788kf$cvc$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <3A97AC64.97AC6371@mail.bcpl.net> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZGJXG9jFtG32wKZp67LVxo3ikNVMERSsOrETGneyTd57PD0n9GKzIw X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 13:43:13 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.bme.hu!andromeda.datanet.hu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-195 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3220 In article <3A97AC64.97AC6371@mail.bcpl.net>, Ken McMonigal wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>, >> jfrancis@dungeon.engr.sgi.com (John Francis) wrote: >> >In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: >> >> >> >> There is a difference between writing the code and >> >>doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ >> > >> >It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even >> >have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I >> >almost failed to notice what I was doing. >> >> I had a bitch of a time typing it. I kept wanting to >> type altmode..or rather on this keyboard, escape. >> >> /BAH >> >> Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. > >Ah, ... my suggestion to Mr. Stark about putting a sticker on his >individual >keys that said altmode, et al, over the IBM-101 keyboard. That wouldn't help since my fingers don't have eyes. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 01 10:57:41 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <9788kf$cvc$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYB4pkwoZdXF5ACFDZqzSN0dPGl9gznclG8wUXhMHli05702DyIBqIb X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 12:15:11 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-195 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3221 In article <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>, jfrancis@dungeon.engr.sgi.com (John Francis) wrote: >In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: >> >> There is a difference between writing the code and >>doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > >It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even >have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I >almost failed to notice what I was doing. I had a bitch of a time typing it. I kept wanting to type altmode..or rather on this keyboard, escape. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 01 10:58:51 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <9788mk$cvc$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZy3sZCeCcz5ujhBjG4XibsNKe8uMBmwh1+nc63X0tVvSH4xFrMGnHi X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 12:16:20 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!news.cs.utwente.nl!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!204.192.80.11.MISMATCH!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!news.idt.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-195 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3222 In article , Jim Thomas wrote: >>>>>> "John" == John Francis writes: > > John> In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: > >> > >> There is a difference between writing the code and > >> doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > > John> It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even > John> have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I > John> almost failed to notice what I was doing. > >Umm, did you get an empty output file too ? :-) Damn. I got too used to compile class commands and DTECO. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: Sat, 24 Feb 01 11:01:04 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <9788qp$cvc$3@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaOEBDTf/HdHYXe2/ODgWIP4MQa3w5NIuBuEz/noP2TmxUdoRf22J4r X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 12:18:33 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-195 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3223 In article , Ric Werme wrote: >Jim Thomas writes: > >>>>>>> "John" == John Francis writes: > >> John> In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: >> >> >> >> There is a difference between writing the code and >> >> doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > >> John> It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even >> John> have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I >> John> almost failed to notice what I was doing. > >>Umm, did you get an empty output file too ? :-) > >Yep. I was going to pounce, but your cryptic note is far better. :-) > What a bunch of smartasses. Well, that's why I always tested my stuff before I cast it in stone. Can't test much with dollar signs. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. ###### From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: 23 Feb 2001 13:02:55 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 982969375 28021 128.171.80.135 (23 Feb 2001 23:02:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Feb 2001 23:02:55 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3225 >>>>> "John" == John Francis writes: John> In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: >> >> There is a difference between writing the code and >> doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ John> It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even John> have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I John> almost failed to notice what I was doing. Umm, did you get an empty output file too ? :-) Nothead ###### From: jfrancis@dungeon.engr.sgi.com (John Francis) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... Date: 24 Feb 2001 00:15:59 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <976ufv$67cs6$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dungeon.engr.sgi.com X-Trace: fido.engr.sgi.com 982973759 6534022 130.62.53.248 (24 Feb 2001 00:15:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@fido.engr.sgi.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 00:15:59 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!fido.engr.sgi.com!dungeon.engr.sgi.com!jfrancis Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3224 In article , Jim Thomas wrote: >>>>>> "John" == John Francis writes: > > John> In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: > >> > >> There is a difference between writing the code and > >> doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > > John> It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even > John> have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I > John> almost failed to notice what I was doing. > >Umm, did you get an empty output file too ? :-) Not necessarily. ###### Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> From: Ric Werme X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #119 Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:17:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.12.32 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 982981049 24.91.12.32 (Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:17:29 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:17:29 EST Organization: Road Runner Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws05.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3226 Jim Thomas writes: >>>>>> "John" == John Francis writes: > John> In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: > >> > >> There is a difference between writing the code and > >> doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > John> It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even > John> have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I > John> almost failed to notice what I was doing. >Umm, did you get an empty output file too ? :-) Yep. I was going to pounce, but your cryptic note is far better. :-) -- Ric Werme | werme@nospam.mediaone.net http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme | ^^^^^^^ delete ###### Message-ID: <3A97AC64.97AC6371@mail.bcpl.net> From: Ken McMonigal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TS10 Emulator Status - Prepared for release now... References: <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com> <9788kf$cvc$1@bob.news.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:43:16 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.19.142.226 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bcpl.net X-Trace: news.abs.net 983018559 207.19.142.226 (Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:42:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:42:39 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!kanja.arnes.si!news-hub.siol.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:3219 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <97699c$67qlt$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>, > jfrancis@dungeon.engr.sgi.com (John Francis) wrote: > >In article <975iih$lsd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, wrote: > >> > >> There is a difference between writing the code and > >>doing an ERFOO.MAC$HXA$EBMINE.MAC$GA$EX$$ > > > >It's probably twenty years since I last used TECO, but I didn't even > >have to think about parsing that. In fact it was so automatic that I > >almost failed to notice what I was doing. > > I had a bitch of a time typing it. I kept wanting to > type altmode..or rather on this keyboard, escape. > > /BAH > > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Ah, ... my suggestion to Mr. Stark about putting a sticker on his individual keys that said altmode, et al, over the IBM-101 keyboard. --- Ken Case-10, one of the original phase 1 first 15 nodes, also had an Univac 1108 : The Algol compiler used at Case Institute of Technology, after finding 25 errors in the source (e.g., like you spelled BEGIN as BEGNI), would print: "At this point, we suggest you try re-reading the manual."