From: Mark Garrett Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: KC10 aka 2080 Organization: Garetech Computer Solutions Lines: 24 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:10:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.244.163 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 979607422 144.132.244.163 (Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:10:22 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:10:22 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!skynet.be!newsfeed.cwix.com!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:2667 Been fun reading the TOPS-20 sources thank you to who ever dug them up. There seems to be a mountain of info on the real nature of the Jupiter aka KC10 aka 2080 though out the tops20 sources introduced around 6.1 GOPDEF INSQHI,<720000,,0> ;INSERT AT HEAD, INTERLOCKED GOPDEF INSQTI,<721000,,0> ;INSERT AT TAIL, INTERLOCKED GOPDEF REMQHI,<722000,,0> ;REMOVE FROM HEAD, INTERLOCKED GOPDEF REMQTI,<723000,,0> ;REMOVE FROM TAIL, INTERLOCKED This is defined for KC10 interesting set of instructions maybe they thought bits of VAX looked ok:) [not used in any code I could see :( ] Certainly useful on a multi CPU box. Its a shame they didn't keep going it all looked bright and new, all these fun new things being introduced. It was a bad sign for either Jupiter or TOPS-10 though since it seems to have never been prepped to run on the box. I guess that had a lot to do with it not yet being and extended address model and this new machine was all about address extension. Which leads me to the question what did the TOPS-10 camp think of Jupiter? Mark :) ###### From: Mark Garrett Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: KC10 aka 2080 Organization: Garetech Computer Solutions Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:38:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.244.163 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 979688311 144.132.244.163 (Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:38:31 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:38:31 EST Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:2683 in article mddu26zmgc3.fsf@panix2.panix.com, Rich Alderson at alderson+news@panix.com wrote on 17/01/2001 06:45: > Mark Garrett writes: > >> There seems to be a mountain of info on the real nature of the Jupiter aka >> KC10 aka 2080 though out the tops20 sources introduced around 6.1 > > That was an earlier designation. I have in my possession a number of binders > (in a nice chocolate color) with the words > > DECsystem-4050 > Sales Training Seminar I should have asked to see them when I visited :( > > printed on them. (I got my first from Mark Lottor, at the 1988 DEC-20 Day > luncheon; the others came from Joe Dempster.) > > So Jupiter was going to be a DEC-40. Tops-40, perhaps? After all, wasn't it > the sales/marketing folks who renamed the PDP-10 to be the DECsystem-10? Must have been making the TOPS-10 people nervous, looks like more of the one OS strategists for PDP-10 call it TOPS-40 ###### From: bugs@netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: KC10 aka 2080 Date: 16 Jan 2001 23:44:12 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 14 Message-ID: <942mcc$v8i$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: c7.ae.21.58 X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #121 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!Amsterdam.Infonet!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!blackbush.xlink.net!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!xfer13.netnews.com!netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:2693 Mark Garrett writes: >> So Jupiter was going to be a DEC-40. Tops-40, perhaps? After all, wasn't it >> the sales/marketing folks who renamed the PDP-10 to be the DECsystem-10? > Must have been making the TOPS-10 people nervous, looks like more of the >one OS strategists for PDP-10 call it TOPS-40 Actually I had heard mention of "TOPS-36" from time to time in those days. Perhaps it made _both_ 10 and 20 people nervous :-) Later Mark Hittinger Earthlink bugs@netcom.com