From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Organization: nocrew Lines: 4 Sender: lars@junk.nocrew.org Message-ID: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 06:06:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.17.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@defero.net X-Trace: news.defero.net 973058775 212.73.17.42 (Wed, 01 Nov 2000 07:06:15 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 07:06:15 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!news.ost.eltele.no!newsfeed1.enitel.no!masternews.telia.net!news-sto.telia.net!news.defero.net!junk.nocrew.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1127 I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. More information can be found at http://pdp10.nocrew.org/ ###### From: blarsen@nonews.net (Bjørn Hell Larsen) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Date: 01 Nov 2000 10:04:40 +0100 Organization: Nonews is good news Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: locke.svg.infostream.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.ost.eltele.no 973069396 3005 213.236.169.78 (1 Nov 2000 09:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@ost.eltele.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Nov 2000 09:03:16 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!news.ost.eltele.no!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1125 Lars Brinkhoff writes: > I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas > to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. More information can > be found at > http://pdp10.nocrew.org/ Is this a TOPS-20-only project? Bjørn -- DoD#2537 / Senior MC - '90 FZ750 (Fizz) / '99 VT750C2 (Brumm) ###### From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Organization: nocrew Lines: 13 Sender: lars@junk.nocrew.org Message-ID: <85r94w6oem.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:17:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.17.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@defero.net X-Trace: news.defero.net 973070237 212.73.17.42 (Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:17:17 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:17:17 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!psinet-eu-nl!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!195.54.122.107!newsfeed1.bredband.com!newsfeed1.bredband.net!bredband!news000.worldonline.se!news-sto.telia.net!news.defero.net!junk.nocrew.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1129 blarsen@nonews.net (Bjørn Hell Larsen) writes: > Lars Brinkhoff writes: > > I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas > > to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. More information can > > be found at > > http://pdp10.nocrew.org/ > Is this a TOPS-20-only project? As far as XKL is concerned, yes. I may or may not find some spare time to support other operating systems. -- http://lars.nocrew.org/ ###### From: inwap@best.com (Joe Smith) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Date: 2 Nov 2000 18:45:10 GMT Organization: Chez Inwap Lines: 25 Message-ID: <8tscnm$1ev6$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell3.ba.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 973190710 48102 206.184.139.134 (2 Nov 2000 18:45:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@best.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Nov 2000 18:45:10 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news2.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!inwap Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1153 In article <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: >I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas >to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. More information can >be found at > http://pdp10.nocrew.org/ So there's a chance of seeing perl-5.6.0 on TOPS-20, right? XKL shipped perl-4.036 with their TOPS-20. I have a perl program called 'lsf' (which produces output similar to "find . -ls"). It produces a recursive directory listing, and ran with no modifications on TOPS-20. (See 'lsf' at http://www.inwap.com/mybin/ if you're interested.) But I did add one slight change to make the output look better: sub wanted { ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink,$uid,$gid,$rd,$size,$at,$mt,$ct,$bs,$bk) = lstat($_); $uid = $uid & 0xFFFFFFFF; # Looks nicer ... } Pretty much a no-op on 32-bit computers, but makes a difference on the PDP-10. -Joe -- See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10 and "ReBoot" pages. ###### From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Organization: nocrew Lines: 9 Sender: lars@junk.nocrew.org Message-ID: <85pukc0y16.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <8tscnm$1ev6$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 11:39:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.17.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@defero.net X-Trace: news.defero.net 973337957 212.73.17.42 (Sat, 04 Nov 2000 12:39:17 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 12:39:17 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!148.122.208.68!news2.oke.nextra.no!nextra.com!newsfeed1.enitel.no!masternews.telia.net!news-sto.telia.net!news.defero.net!junk.nocrew.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1199 inwap@best.com (Joe Smith) writes: > In article <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>, > Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > >I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas > >to the PDP-10. > So there's a chance of seeing perl-5.6.0 on TOPS-20, right? I guess. You'd have to ask the XKL guys. With most of the GNU tools in place, it shouldn't be that hard to port. ###### Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> From: mc@hack.org Sender: mc@caerbannogh.hack.org Reply-To: mc@hack.org Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack X-Waved: Chicken (dead). Curse all those damn UCE bots! Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <87aeariwur.fsf@dingo.area41.hack.org> Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:17:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.181.170.222 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.com X-Trace: newsb.telia.net 974924223 212.181.170.222 (Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:17:03 CET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:17:03 CET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!newsfeed1.enitel.no!masternews.telia.net!newsb.telia.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1324 Lars Brinkhoff writes: > I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas > to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. Way cool, Lars, especially for someone with no previous experience of a PDP-10. I remember when you asked in the newsgroup about docs on the PDP-10 architecture. How did you persuade them to hire you for this job? -- Mikael "MC" Cardell Temple of the Moby Hack Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental. ###### From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:58:19 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <87aeariwur.fsf@dingo.area41.hack.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 974941099 4131 128.171.80.135 (23 Nov 2000 00:58:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Nov 2000 00:58:19 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!machtgarnix.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1325 >>>>> "mc" == mc writes: mc> Lars Brinkhoff writes: >> I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas >> to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. mc> Way cool, Lars, especially for someone with no previous experience of mc> a PDP-10. I remember when you asked in the newsgroup about docs on the mc> PDP-10 architecture. mc> How did you persuade them to hire you for this job? Obviously, it's the gcc experience that counts. The PDP-10 architecture is obvious :-) Nothead ###### From: Lars Brinkhoff Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Planned gcc, gdb, gas port to PDP-10 Organization: nocrew Lines: 18 Sender: lars@junk.nocrew.org Message-ID: <8566lfujdf.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> References: <85u29s8c3x.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <87aeariwur.fsf@dingo.area41.hack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:28:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.73.17.42 X-Complaints-To: abuse@defero.net X-Trace: news.defero.net 974971685 212.73.17.42 (Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:28:05 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:28:05 MET Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!news.imp.ch!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!newsfeed1.enitel.no!masternews.telia.net!news-sto.telia.net!news.defero.net!junk.nocrew.org!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:1320 mc@hack.org writes: > Lars Brinkhoff writes: > > I have signed a one-year contract with XKL to port gcc, gdb, and gas > > to the PDP-10. I will start working in January. > Way cool, Lars, especially for someone with no previous experience of > a PDP-10. I remember when you asked in the newsgroup about docs on the > PDP-10 architecture. Right. But the architecture isn't THAT different from those I already know, and I have some experienced PDP-10 hackers at XKL to help me. > How did you persuade them to hire you for this job? Actually, when I wrote them for information about their XKL-1 processor, they asked me whether I was interested in porting gcc. -- http://lars.nocrew.org/