From: David Razler Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: PDP-3 research offer Reply-To: david.razler@worldnet.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 8 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:54:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.90.106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 969548055 12.79.90.106 (Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:54:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:54:15 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news.seicom.net!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.tmr.net!news.vew-telnet.net!do.de.uu.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.tele.dk!144.212.100.101!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.20!wnmasters3!bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:563 Folks: Anyone with *accurate* info on the PDP-3's builder/owner please get it to me - I'll file the Freedom of Information Act requests needed to get the full history. dmr ###### Message-ID: <39CA4CEF.684F5669@ntlworld.com> From: "antonio.carlini" Reply-To: antonio.carlini@ntlworld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:01:19 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.105.124.60 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news2-win.server.ntlworld.com 969559193 213.105.124.60 (Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:59:53 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:59:53 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!npeer.kpnqwest.net!news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news2-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:564 David Razler wrote: > Anyone with *accurate* info on the PDP-3's builder/owner > please get it to me - I'll file the Freedom of Information Act > requests needed to get the full history. Second time in as many days I get to pluck "Computer Engineering" off the shelf. It states that the PDP-3 paper design was built by Scientific Engineering Institue, Waltham, Mass. in 1960. The machine was later dismantled and given to MIT. In 1974 it was apparently up and running in Oregon. This is all in a footnote, but I'm assuming that Bell had checked the info before publishing it. Antonio ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:52:32 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6u8zskw0v3.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <39CA4CEF.684F5669@ntlworld.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 969659552 822 10.0.3.2 (22 Sep 2000 21:52:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Sep 2000 21:52:32 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:574 "antonio.carlini" writes: > Second time in as many days I get to pluck "Computer Engineering" > off the shelf. With such an generic name there must surely be over 10 books of same name. Does this usefull one have an Author or even ISBN? -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, LARPer, Mystic ###### Message-ID: <39CBDBAB.E96081C2@bellatlantic.net> From: justme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer References: <39CA4CEF.684F5669@ntlworld.com> <6u8zskw0v3.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 22:21:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.88.35.193 X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@bellatlantic.net X-Trace: typhoon2.ba-dsg.net 969661274 138.88.35.193 (Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:21:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:21:14 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cyclone1.ba-dsg.net!typhoon2.ba-dsg.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:580 Neil Franklin wrote: > > "antonio.carlini" writes: > > > Second time in as many days I get to pluck "Computer Engineering" > > off the shelf. > > With such an generic name there must surely be over 10 books of same > name. Does this usefull one have an Author or even ISBN? There can be only one: Computer Engineering, Digital Press. > > -- > Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ > Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, LARPer, Mystic ###### From: "Geoffrey G. Rochat" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:18:05 -0400 Organization: Kersur Technologies Lines: 32 Message-ID: <8qgopk$s8q$1@news.kersur.net> References: <39CA4CEF.684F5669@ntlworld.com> <6u8zskw0v3.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: 02-068.024.popsite.net X-Trace: news.kersur.net 969664116 28954 216.126.160.68 (22 Sep 2000 23:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@kersur.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:08:36 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!nntp.twtelecom.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!news.kersur.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:577 Mr. Carlini is almost certainly referring to "Computer Engineering" by Bell, Mudge and McNamara, Digital Equipment Corp., 1978, ISBN 0-932376-00-2. If you do not have a copy, or access to a copy, by all means rectify the deficiency as it is *THE* insider reference to all DEC machines up to the VAX11/780. It is written as a collection of case studies of the various DEC machines, busses, software and other entities by the creators of those entities, and tells you why they did what they did, and what they'd do differently had they the chance to do it again. Absolutely fascinating, it should certainly be on the reading list of everybody who monitors this newsgroup. Mr. Carlini speaks of getting his copy down from the shelf; I keep mine on my desk for quicker reference - when it's not on my nightstand. It may be found online at: http://www.research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/index .html Neil Franklin wrote in message <6u8zskw0v3.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch>... >"antonio.carlini" writes: > >> Second time in as many days I get to pluck "Computer Engineering" >> off the shelf. > >With such an generic name there must surely be over 10 books of same >name. Does this usefull one have an Author or even ISBN? > > >-- >Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ >Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, LARPer, Mystic ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer Date: 23 Sep 2000 19:38:50 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 24 Message-ID: <6uwvg33t5h.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <39CA4CEF.684F5669@ntlworld.com> <6u8zskw0v3.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> <8qgopk$s8q$1@news.kersur.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 969730730 1197 10.0.3.2 (23 Sep 2000 17:38:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2000 17:38:50 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:584 "Geoffrey G. Rochat" writes: > studies of the various DEC machines, busses, software and other entities > by the creators of those entities, and tells you why they did what they > did, and what they'd do differently had they the chance to do it again. > Absolutely fascinating, Wow. Just what the doctor ordered. > it should certainly be on the reading list of > everybody who monitors this newsgroup. Mr. Carlini speaks of getting > > http://www.research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/index > .html Download this evening. Time to not spare the modem. Thanks for the URL. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Nerd, Geek, Hacker, Unix Guru, Sysadmin, Roleplayer, LARPer, Mystic ###### From: Michael Umbricht Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-3 research offer Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:33:56 -0400 Organization: Ocean State Free-Net Message-ID: <39CD7624.566A5694@shrimp.osfn.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4c) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!machtgarnix.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.germany.net!fr.clara.net!fr.clara.net!grolier!sn-east!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.sys.pdp10:586 Hello, On behalf of the Retro-Computing Society of RI http://www.osfn.org/rcs I would be very interested in any information that you find. Please drop us a note if you need any help in researching this topic. -mikeu RCS/RI David Razler wrote: > > Anyone with *accurate* info on the PDP-3's builder/owner > please get it to me - I'll file the Freedom of Information Act > requests needed to get the full history.