From: "Elana Ruiz" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: An OBE with some proof of its reality. Lines: 55 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <8NoT7.443$HV3.220096@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> X-Trace: +4f596G4HY5wyBmcpf9G5awbCBTkOsS1Ud9bmFVV4uvxXbHc2Jkp+9+yi2By1SwvR55UJnq+R6MR!7SJP0Tjw5zzQqFAb0wXJxPvn/69lDSHxjpXA21hE5LldprtQPawsy0yn/h56i1ozy/K38uHPecm8!DLTLyvnO6w== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:09:40 GMT Distribution: world Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:09:40 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be!feedwest.news.agis.net!aleron.net!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!paloalto-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:75144 7/29/98 Had difficulty falling asleep. Around three fifteen I fell asleep. I briefly entered the mind/awake body/asleep state, then it diminished. The numbing effect startled me because I was not expecting it. I got up for a while and read a book until three forty-five AM. I laid down and decided to visit J if I entered the state again. I focused on J and immediately found myself at a location resembling my work place. I noticed that there was a strange illumination and trying to find the light source, I looked up. There was no ceiling. All I could see was a deep darkness that seemed to stretch into infinite. I used my sense of radar to perceive what was beyond the four walls, more nothingness. I heard a continuos noise which I knew was a box tape dispenser. Following the noise I found J making boxes and using the tape dispenser. I went over to him to see what he was doing OOB. I noticed that his eyes were closed. He was performing his work duties effortlessly with his eyes closed. I reasoned to myself that he must be dreaming and decided to wake him to see if he could realize the OOBE. I began shaking him, when this did not work I began slapping him. He began mumbling and when he opened his eyes we disappeared from this location. Suddenly we were in a dark room with him lying on a bed and me over him. I began yelling at him "You are out of body, you are out of body!" He began to reconnect with his physical body. When he reconnected he became less distinct, almost transparent. There was also some sort of turbulence which I felt when he reconnected. I decided to reconnect with my physical and focused gently. I merged with the physical and turned my head to see the time. The time was four-thirty AM "but wait, I do not have a digital clock." I opened my eyes and saw my clock, it read four-thirty AM. Somehow I was seeing a digital clock with my eyes closed. I wrote this down. Time away was forty-five minutes. Afterthoughts * Where was this replica work place located at? * What was the darkness that I perceived surrounding this replica work place? Confirmation When I got to work I approached J and without disclosing anything about the experience I asked him if he had experienced anything peculiar. He said that he had trouble getting a good nights sleep. I asked him if he remembered anything and he said yes. He had a couple of dreams. In one of these dreams he was at work making some boxes. I asked him if he had awakened anytime during the night. He said that he usually would wake up several times a night to drink water or use the restroom. I asked more specifically if he had awakened in an unusual way and after a couple of moments he said, "Yes, I woke up for no apparent reason with a jump and for some reason I looked at the clock. The time was four-thirty AM." I thanked him for the info and since he is also a person interested in the paranormal I disclosed my side of the story. He loved it. By the way, he says he has a digital clock next to his bed. ###### Lines: 26 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: earthenglow@aol.com (EarthenGlow) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Date: 24 Dec 2001 10:03:38 GMT References: <8NoT7.443$HV3.220096@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: An OBE with some proof of its reality. Message-ID: <20011224050338.09749.00000954@mb-fq.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:75389 Wow, that is a great experience. I just realized I had one years ago, and only 1 week ago I realized it was an OBE. I had gone through an allergic reaction in a doctors office, in which I found myself feeling very small in the dark, inside of my body. Before that had happened, I felt like my blood was volcanic and because of the horror of it, I think I passed out possibly right before I felt small inside of my dark body. At that point I could not see. I then saw the doctor going for a needle to revive me, but I just realized I couldn't have seen him if I was in the dark, inside of my body. So, I did have an OBE. Because of the extreme nature of the allergy I was in a coma, I would guess. Reviving me, the doctor was really relieved but I was not aware that I could not see the whole time, until I thought about what I had undergone. As I said, I remember everything going black and watching him as though I was above the situation, but I did not realize I had an OBE. Very interesting your experience. Thanks! SereniT ###### From: "Elana Ruiz" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <8NoT7.443$HV3.220096@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> <20011224050338.09749.00000954@mb-fq.aol.com> Subject: Re: An OBE with some proof of its reality. 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Check it out at www.homestead.com/louisobe/louisobe.html "EarthenGlow" wrote in message news:20011224050338.09749.00000954@mb-fq.aol.com... > Wow, that is a great experience. > > I just realized I had one years ago, and only 1 week ago I realized it was an > OBE. > > I had gone through an allergic reaction in a doctors office, in which I found > myself feeling very small in the dark, inside of my body. Before that had > happened, I felt like my blood was volcanic and because of the horror of it, I > think I passed out possibly right before I felt small inside of my dark body. > At that point I could not see. > > I then saw the doctor going for a needle to revive me, but I just realized I > couldn't have seen him if I was in the dark, inside of my body. So, I did have > an OBE. > > Because of the extreme nature of the allergy I was in a coma, I would guess. > > Reviving me, the doctor was really relieved but I was not aware that I could > not see the whole time, until I thought about what I had undergone. > > As I said, I remember everything going black and watching him as though I was > above the situation, but I did not realize I had an OBE. > > Very interesting your experience. Thanks! > > SereniT