From: "Silver Blade" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: I'm a fan of fans (was: !$*!!&**!!! computers) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:30:49 +0100 Lines: 39 Message-ID: <9n656g$8is$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <593da164.0109030518.6e9aab82@posting.google.com> Reply-To: "Silver Blade" NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-43.leopard-shark.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 999725072 8796 62.137.37.171 (5 Sep 2001 21:24:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Sep 2001 21:24:32 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:71220 By pure coincidence, my CPU fan decided it wanted to start dropping in RPM. As it did so, the CPU temperature rose. At one point, it started making grinding noises, so I immediately switched it off (didn't risk shutdown for fear of burning out processor.) Un-hooked the heatsink and fan, and squirted loads of oil into the fan. Re-seated it, and it ran about 300 rpm faster, and the CPU 10 degrees cooler. Until this morning (it's on overnight), when it started grumbling at me again. So I turned it off and bought a new fan. The fan's clips wouldn't go down due to a capacitor being in the way (stupid motherboard layout.) After much searching, I found a suitable replacement. OK, so that's VERY off-topic, I know. The interesting point is that, when I re-seated the heatsink and fan the first time round, the machine wouldn't switch on. It would make a click noise, and not work at all. It's an ATX case and motherboard, and after re-seating the cards, it started up fine. And today, the machine would switch on, but wouldn't go thru the POST (the diagnostic LEDs were all red, meaning that the processor could be damaged or something was loose.) Having heard a previous horror-story from a friend, I got worried that I'd crushed the CPU core (as he did.) It's an AMD Duron, and it has the core on the upper-side of it. The problem? Loose AGP graphics card. I took it out and put it back in, and the LEDs flickered and all was fine. Hope that helps, and saves you money! -SB ###### Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!not-for-mail From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: I'm a fan of fans (was: !$*!!&**!!! computers) Date: 06 Sep 2001 21:00:04 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 19 Message-ID: <6uvgiwqh57.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> References: <593da164.0109030518.6e9aab82@posting.google.com> <9n656g$8is$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: chonsp.franklin.ch X-Trace: chonsp.franklin.ch 999802804 432 10.0.3.2 (6 Sep 2001 19:00:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@chonsp.franklin.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Sep 2001 19:00:04 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:71227 "Silver Blade" writes: > The problem? Loose AGP graphics card. I took it out and put it back in, and > the LEDs flickered and all was fine. Rule 1 with failing computers (and other electronics): Allways first suspect cables (breaks) and plugs (contacts). Cards have connectors, which of course are plugs as far as above rule goes. Batteries are about the 3rd worst part. Of course today one allways should very first suspect software :-(. -- Neil Franklin, neil@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery