From: Stefan Ljungstrand Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:38:36 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Lines: 101 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: scooter.mdstud.chalmers.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: nyheter.chalmers.se 994513119 7360 129.16.234.20 (7 Jul 2001 13:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@chalmers.se NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Jul 2001 13:38:39 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!195.54.122.107!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!news.chalmers.se!scooter.mdstud.chalmers.se!md9slj Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68583 It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of you would consider him a person of integrity. While in Norway on vacation some time ago, he had planned to visit a lot of his beloved glaciers. We both accompanied him on the trip, as we have done on many other occasions, when trips to the mountains have been the subject. The weather was very cooperative, and many of our goals were reached. However, one evening (June 27th) David and Gunnar went by themselves for a short hike to a glacier, since Stefan had injured his knee and stayed at the car to recuperate. Once up at the glacier, Gunnar took a lot of photographs, which was a dear hobby of his. The mistake he made was to walk upon the snow that covered almost the entire glacier, and came upon a hidden crevasse! He fell down far enough to be completely unable to be recovered by either his or David's efforts, and they both knew that it would be impossible for David to mount a rescue mission within reasonable time. So David stayed at the crevasse, talking with him. As soon as Gunnar understood that his life could not be saved, he became totally calm. The sudden peace of mind affected both of the young men, divided by only a couple of meters, but still worlds apart. There was something so absolutely right about this event, that David could not easily put into words. They had talked a lot about death and afterlife in the years before, and now when faced with reality, the truth of their confidence became very clear. It would not crumble even in this hour, when one of them heard Death breathing in his ear. Gunnar did not say that much, David could feel that he was slipping away. This accident happened at about 1900 hours, and David stayed there more than twenty minutes, until nothing else could be said. It also was because the immense cold drained his body of warmth, that Gunnar was starting to lose consciousness. Sadly, David said farewell, and departed the glacier. He went down to his younger brother and told him what had happened. * * * The rescue personnel could not recover his body until midnight, and they flew it to a large hospital. However, his body had been exposed to the cold so long that the body injuries were unrepairable. He was pronounced dead in the morning, likely due to extreme hypothermia. He died at the age of 34. * * * In the midst of our grief, there is a consolation that Gunnar had so many friends (many of them on the net), among you several posters at this newsgroup. It has taken time for us to post something here, but finally it has now been done. We shall all die sometime, but his was a beautiful death. If he could have chosen his death, perhaps he would have chosen a glacier to be the executioner. Still, it was an accident, something that again reminds us of the risks with these 'extreme' sports, like mountaineering, glacial climbing, diving, and other activities. And still, Gunnar _knew_ the risks, and he thought it was a fair trade for all pleasure he received from his journeys among the glaciers. It was his responsibility alone, and we respect him still, though the future will be somewhat empty without him. But now, at least, the joy for his sake is greater than the sorrow (we know that he is better off now), and we know that we will be able to carry on, and accept his departure. The posters of this newsgroup will also recover sooner or later... We believe some of us people around here are hoping to meet Gunnar again, by OBEs or LDs, that is a most noble cause we think, even though it possibly may _never_ happen in our lifetimes. Gunnar has spent a great deal of effort to create his glacier site (http://glacierglen.dhs.org), and also has a homepage mainly dedicated to the Elfquest fantasy series (http://www.algonet.se/~dervak). These sites are perhaps the best that he has left behind for the afterworld. There will be some updates there sometime, but we do not know when. At this point, we haven't set the exact date for the funeral, it will come at earliest one week from now. I'll let you know Lorz, and the rest of you around here. *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* Gunnar obviously had. To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, See you out there! -- Stefan Lj md9slj The infinity that can be finitely expressed is not the true infinity ###### Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand From: spnak@petitmorte.net (jfred) Message-ID: <1ew6yd7.qrquvd8n19uiN%spnak@petitmorte.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: "I've coined new words, like, misunderstanding and Hispanically." -- GWBush X-No-Archive: Yes X-Face: #&$Ojz_|WS+)nSdP,'%XcC(#:4v>|7k]yXb8q3Nw3MY~^U\NC[=R]3tPsV&\o ^4y4vPg&$$pMspY3V]R>-0VwHO?&mW)XF|p85XgW_k~ZfzS=(`V%8f2KajG\O>$bj3@L &S6Kpc*Hw8j%$ERU?2]9$4K|KrO2`\,DN Q\_P8O- User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.5 Lines: 110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 20:04:04 EDT Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:09:28 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.bme.hu!andromeda.datanet.hu!bignews.mediaways.net!easynews!e420r-sjo4.usenetserver.com!newsfeed.usenetserver.com!e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com.POSTED!spnak Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68522 Stefan Ljungstrand wrote: > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you > lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of > you would consider him a person of integrity. > > While in Norway on vacation some time ago, he had planned to visit a > lot of his beloved glaciers. We both accompanied him on the trip, as > we have done on many other occasions, when trips to the mountains have > been the subject. The weather was very cooperative, and many of our > goals were reached. > > However, one evening (June 27th) David and Gunnar went by themselves > for a short hike to a glacier, since Stefan had injured his knee and > stayed at the car to recuperate. Once up at the glacier, Gunnar took a > lot of photographs, which was a dear hobby of his. The mistake he made > was to walk upon the snow that covered almost the entire glacier, and > came upon a hidden crevasse! > > He fell down far enough to be completely unable to be recovered by > either his or David's efforts, and they both knew that it would be > impossible for David to mount a rescue mission within reasonable time. > So David stayed at the crevasse, talking with him. As soon as Gunnar > understood that his life could not be saved, he became totally calm. > The sudden peace of mind affected both of the young men, divided by > only a couple of meters, but still worlds apart. There was something > so absolutely right about this event, that David could not easily put > into words. They had talked a lot about death and afterlife in the > years before, and now when faced with reality, the truth of their > confidence became very clear. It would not crumble even in this hour, > when one of them heard Death breathing in his ear. Gunnar did not say > that much, David could feel that he was slipping away. > > This accident happened at about 1900 hours, and David stayed there > more than twenty minutes, until nothing else could be said. It also > was because the immense cold drained his body of warmth, that Gunnar > was starting to lose consciousness. Sadly, David said farewell, and > departed the glacier. > > He went down to his younger brother and told him what had happened. > > * * * > > The rescue personnel could not recover his body until midnight, and > they flew it to a large hospital. However, his body had been exposed > to the cold so long that the body injuries were unrepairable. He was > pronounced dead in the morning, likely due to extreme hypothermia. He > died at the age of 34. > > * * * > > In the midst of our grief, there is a consolation that Gunnar had so > many friends (many of them on the net), among you several posters at > this newsgroup. It has taken time for us to post something here, but > finally it has now been done. > > We shall all die sometime, but his was a beautiful death. If he could > have chosen his death, perhaps he would have chosen a glacier to be > the executioner. Still, it was an accident, something that again > reminds us of the risks with these 'extreme' sports, like > mountaineering, glacial climbing, diving, and other activities. > > And still, Gunnar _knew_ the risks, and he thought it was a fair trade > for all pleasure he received from his journeys among the glaciers. It > was his responsibility alone, and we respect him still, though the > future will be somewhat empty without him. But now, at least, the joy > for his sake is greater than the sorrow (we know that he is better off > now), and we know that we will be able to carry on, and accept his > departure. The posters of this newsgroup will also recover sooner or > later... > > We believe some of us people around here are hoping to meet Gunnar > again, by OBEs or LDs, that is a most noble cause we think, even > though it possibly may _never_ happen in our lifetimes. > > Gunnar has spent a great deal of effort to create his glacier site > (http://glacierglen.dhs.org), and also has a homepage mainly dedicated > to the Elfquest fantasy series (http://www.algonet.se/~dervak). These > sites are perhaps the best that he has left behind for the afterworld. > > There will be some updates there sometime, but we do not know when. > > At this point, we haven't set the exact date for the funeral, it will > come at earliest one week from now. I'll let you know Lorz, and the > rest of you around here. > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > Gunnar obviously had. > > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > See you out there! > > -- > Stefan Lj > md9slj > > The infinity that can be finitely expressed is not the true infinity Sympathies to you and your family, Stefan, and to David and Gunnar's other friends. It was very thoughtful of you to post this. -- *jfred -- Habent Abdenda Omnes Praeter Me ac Simiam Meam* *Official cOverseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astrology* .+°~*·.+°~*·.+°Hi, Tony! /me waves! :-D+°~*·.+°~*·.+°~*·. "I am not your normal delusional imbecile" -- Ed Wollmann ###### Message-ID: <3B47B526.3B00A58E@home.com> From: Suzanne Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 116 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 01:23:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.67.73.47 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.ab.home.com 994555399 24.67.73.47 (Sat, 07 Jul 2001 18:23:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 18:23:19 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.via.net!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.ab.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68786 Stefan Ljungstrand wrote: > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you > lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of > you would consider him a person of integrity. > > While in Norway on vacation some time ago, he had planned to visit a > lot of his beloved glaciers. We both accompanied him on the trip, as > we have done on many other occasions, when trips to the mountains have > been the subject. The weather was very cooperative, and many of our > goals were reached. > > However, one evening (June 27th) David and Gunnar went by themselves > for a short hike to a glacier, since Stefan had injured his knee and > stayed at the car to recuperate. Once up at the glacier, Gunnar took a > lot of photographs, which was a dear hobby of his. The mistake he made > was to walk upon the snow that covered almost the entire glacier, and > came upon a hidden crevasse! > > He fell down far enough to be completely unable to be recovered by > either his or David's efforts, and they both knew that it would be > impossible for David to mount a rescue mission within reasonable time. > So David stayed at the crevasse, talking with him. As soon as Gunnar > understood that his life could not be saved, he became totally calm. > The sudden peace of mind affected both of the young men, divided by > only a couple of meters, but still worlds apart. There was something > so absolutely right about this event, that David could not easily put > into words. They had talked a lot about death and afterlife in the > years before, and now when faced with reality, the truth of their > confidence became very clear. It would not crumble even in this hour, > when one of them heard Death breathing in his ear. Gunnar did not say > that much, David could feel that he was slipping away. > > This accident happened at about 1900 hours, and David stayed there > more than twenty minutes, until nothing else could be said. It also > was because the immense cold drained his body of warmth, that Gunnar > was starting to lose consciousness. Sadly, David said farewell, and > departed the glacier. > > He went down to his younger brother and told him what had happened. > > * * * > > The rescue personnel could not recover his body until midnight, and > they flew it to a large hospital. However, his body had been exposed > to the cold so long that the body injuries were unrepairable. He was > pronounced dead in the morning, likely due to extreme hypothermia. He > died at the age of 34. > > * * * > > In the midst of our grief, there is a consolation that Gunnar had so > many friends (many of them on the net), among you several posters at > this newsgroup. It has taken time for us to post something here, but > finally it has now been done. > > We shall all die sometime, but his was a beautiful death. If he could > have chosen his death, perhaps he would have chosen a glacier to be > the executioner. Still, it was an accident, something that again > reminds us of the risks with these 'extreme' sports, like > mountaineering, glacial climbing, diving, and other activities. > > And still, Gunnar _knew_ the risks, and he thought it was a fair trade > for all pleasure he received from his journeys among the glaciers. It > was his responsibility alone, and we respect him still, though the > future will be somewhat empty without him. But now, at least, the joy > for his sake is greater than the sorrow (we know that he is better off > now), and we know that we will be able to carry on, and accept his > departure. The posters of this newsgroup will also recover sooner or > later... > > We believe some of us people around here are hoping to meet Gunnar > again, by OBEs or LDs, that is a most noble cause we think, even > though it possibly may _never_ happen in our lifetimes. > > Gunnar has spent a great deal of effort to create his glacier site > (http://glacierglen.dhs.org), and also has a homepage mainly dedicated > to the Elfquest fantasy series (http://www.algonet.se/~dervak). These > sites are perhaps the best that he has left behind for the afterworld. > > There will be some updates there sometime, but we do not know when. > > At this point, we haven't set the exact date for the funeral, it will > come at earliest one week from now. I'll let you know Lorz, and the > rest of you around here. > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > Gunnar obviously had. > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > See you out there! > > -- > Stefan Lj > md9slj > > The infinity that can be finitely expressed is not the true infinity Thank you so much for posting this. I can only imagine the shock and grief you felt at the time of his fall. My condolences to you both. Suzanne --- Death is the mother of Beauty; hence from her, Alone, shall come fulfillment to our dreams And our desires. -Wallace Stevens "Sunday Morning" (1923) ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:09:48 +0100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 113 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.tele.dk!195.224.25.10!sn-uk-xit-01!sn-uk-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68605 "Stefan Ljungstrand" wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.30.0107071412160.7968-100000@scooter.mdstud.chalmers.se... > > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you > lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of > you would consider him a person of integrity. > > While in Norway on vacation some time ago, he had planned to visit a > lot of his beloved glaciers. We both accompanied him on the trip, as > we have done on many other occasions, when trips to the mountains have > been the subject. The weather was very cooperative, and many of our > goals were reached. > > However, one evening (June 27th) David and Gunnar went by themselves > for a short hike to a glacier, since Stefan had injured his knee and > stayed at the car to recuperate. Once up at the glacier, Gunnar took a > lot of photographs, which was a dear hobby of his. The mistake he made > was to walk upon the snow that covered almost the entire glacier, and > came upon a hidden crevasse! > > He fell down far enough to be completely unable to be recovered by > either his or David's efforts, and they both knew that it would be > impossible for David to mount a rescue mission within reasonable time. > So David stayed at the crevasse, talking with him. As soon as Gunnar > understood that his life could not be saved, he became totally calm. > The sudden peace of mind affected both of the young men, divided by > only a couple of meters, but still worlds apart. There was something > so absolutely right about this event, that David could not easily put > into words. They had talked a lot about death and afterlife in the > years before, and now when faced with reality, the truth of their > confidence became very clear. It would not crumble even in this hour, > when one of them heard Death breathing in his ear. Gunnar did not say > that much, David could feel that he was slipping away. > > This accident happened at about 1900 hours, and David stayed there > more than twenty minutes, until nothing else could be said. It also > was because the immense cold drained his body of warmth, that Gunnar > was starting to lose consciousness. Sadly, David said farewell, and > departed the glacier. > > He went down to his younger brother and told him what had happened. > > * * * > > The rescue personnel could not recover his body until midnight, and > they flew it to a large hospital. However, his body had been exposed > to the cold so long that the body injuries were unrepairable. He was > pronounced dead in the morning, likely due to extreme hypothermia. He > died at the age of 34. > > * * * > > In the midst of our grief, there is a consolation that Gunnar had so > many friends (many of them on the net), among you several posters at > this newsgroup. It has taken time for us to post something here, but > finally it has now been done. > > We shall all die sometime, but his was a beautiful death. If he could > have chosen his death, perhaps he would have chosen a glacier to be > the executioner. Still, it was an accident, something that again > reminds us of the risks with these 'extreme' sports, like > mountaineering, glacial climbing, diving, and other activities. > > And still, Gunnar _knew_ the risks, and he thought it was a fair trade > for all pleasure he received from his journeys among the glaciers. It > was his responsibility alone, and we respect him still, though the > future will be somewhat empty without him. But now, at least, the joy > for his sake is greater than the sorrow (we know that he is better off > now), and we know that we will be able to carry on, and accept his > departure. The posters of this newsgroup will also recover sooner or > later... > > We believe some of us people around here are hoping to meet Gunnar > again, by OBEs or LDs, that is a most noble cause we think, even > though it possibly may _never_ happen in our lifetimes. > > Gunnar has spent a great deal of effort to create his glacier site > (http://glacierglen.dhs.org), and also has a homepage mainly dedicated > to the Elfquest fantasy series (http://www.algonet.se/~dervak). These > sites are perhaps the best that he has left behind for the afterworld. > > There will be some updates there sometime, but we do not know when. > > At this point, we haven't set the exact date for the funeral, it will > come at earliest one week from now. I'll let you know Lorz, and the > rest of you around here. > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > Gunnar obviously had. > > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > See you out there! > > -- > Stefan Lj > md9slj > > The infinity that can be finitely expressed is not the true infinity > My condolences and sympathy to you and your family for your terrible loss. Thank you for posting to us Stefan, knowing that Gunnar was calm and peaceful when overtaken by the cold and that he was not alone has helped me come to terms with his death, Love carol ###### From: Craig Shillington Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 13:21:08 +1000 Organization: Deja Vous Lines: 125 Message-ID: <3B492324.3CB5DBEE@ozemu.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp75.horsham.ozemu.com (203.24.252.75) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 994652705 18883841 203.24.252.75 (16 [27978]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!ppp75.horsham.ozemu.COM!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68524 David, Stefan and Simon and everyone else touched by Gunnar. > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you > lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of > you would consider him a person of integrity. > > While in Norway on vacation some time ago, he had planned to visit a > lot of his beloved glaciers. We both accompanied him on the trip, as > we have done on many other occasions, when trips to the mountains have > been the subject. The weather was very cooperative, and many of our > goals were reached. > > However, one evening (June 27th) David and Gunnar went by themselves > for a short hike to a glacier, since Stefan had injured his knee and > stayed at the car to recuperate. Once up at the glacier, Gunnar took a > lot of photographs, which was a dear hobby of his. The mistake he made > was to walk upon the snow that covered almost the entire glacier, and > came upon a hidden crevasse! > > He fell down far enough to be completely unable to be recovered by > either his or David's efforts, and they both knew that it would be > impossible for David to mount a rescue mission within reasonable time. > So David stayed at the crevasse, talking with him. As soon as Gunnar > understood that his life could not be saved, he became totally calm. > The sudden peace of mind affected both of the young men, divided by > only a couple of meters, but still worlds apart. There was something > so absolutely right about this event, that David could not easily put > into words. They had talked a lot about death and afterlife in the > years before, and now when faced with reality, the truth of their > confidence became very clear. It would not crumble even in this hour, > when one of them heard Death breathing in his ear. Gunnar did not say > that much, David could feel that he was slipping away. > > This accident happened at about 1900 hours, and David stayed there > more than twenty minutes, until nothing else could be said. It also > was because the immense cold drained his body of warmth, that Gunnar > was starting to lose consciousness. Sadly, David said farewell, and > departed the glacier. > > He went down to his younger brother and told him what had happened. > > * * * > > The rescue personnel could not recover his body until midnight, and > they flew it to a large hospital. However, his body had been exposed > to the cold so long that the body injuries were unrepairable. He was > pronounced dead in the morning, likely due to extreme hypothermia. He > died at the age of 34. > > * * * > > In the midst of our grief, there is a consolation that Gunnar had so > many friends (many of them on the net), among you several posters at > this newsgroup. It has taken time for us to post something here, but > finally it has now been done. > > We shall all die sometime, but his was a beautiful death. If he could > have chosen his death, perhaps he would have chosen a glacier to be > the executioner. Still, it was an accident, something that again > reminds us of the risks with these 'extreme' sports, like > mountaineering, glacial climbing, diving, and other activities. > > And still, Gunnar _knew_ the risks, and he thought it was a fair trade > for all pleasure he received from his journeys among the glaciers. It > was his responsibility alone, and we respect him still, though the > future will be somewhat empty without him. But now, at least, the joy > for his sake is greater than the sorrow (we know that he is better off > now), and we know that we will be able to carry on, and accept his > departure. The posters of this newsgroup will also recover sooner or > later... > > We believe some of us people around here are hoping to meet Gunnar > again, by OBEs or LDs, that is a most noble cause we think, even > though it possibly may _never_ happen in our lifetimes. > > Gunnar has spent a great deal of effort to create his glacier site > (http://glacierglen.dhs.org), and also has a homepage mainly dedicated > to the Elfquest fantasy series (http://www.algonet.se/~dervak). These > sites are perhaps the best that he has left behind for the afterworld. > > There will be some updates there sometime, but we do not know when. > > At this point, we haven't set the exact date for the funeral, it will > come at earliest one week from now. I'll let you know Lorz, and the > rest of you around here. > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > Gunnar obviously had. > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > See you out there! My deepest sympathy to everyone who knew him. Gunnar will be greatly missed, thank you for letting us all know he passed on in a way which was fitting for him. He was a pillar in this newsgroup, an equalizer you could say, who always had something to input and when he did people listened and understood. I don't think there was anyone who could not talk with Gunnar on one subject or another. Gunnar had a part of us all inside him and all of us a part of him in us; which will continue to live regardless of where Gunnar is now. May he always be remembered for the kind and gentle guy he was. Bon Voyage Gunnar!! See you out there. Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin -- alt.out-of-body Sign in List http://out-of-body.tripod.com/signin.html Janice's alt.out-of-body Homepage http://www.geocities.com/janice240obe/index.html ###### From: "Julia Hawkes-Moore" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: <2Oc27.10901$WS4.1535789@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:02:40 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.253.90.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news6-win.server.ntlworld.com 994662654 62.253.90.8 (Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:10:54 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:10:54 BST Organization: ntlworld News Service Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news6-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68531 Stefan Ljungstrand wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.30.0107071412160.7968-100000@scooter.mdstud.chalmers.se... > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. To you > lurkers who have read his posts and read this, I think also many of > you would consider him a person of integrity. I had the greatest respect and affection for Gunnar. I felt that I knew him personally, having met him several times 'out there' as well as having spoken with him for several years through the internet. I am saddened to hear of your tragic loss. How is your family coping? Such a sudden and loss must have shocked you all deeply. I send you all my sympathies and my best wishes for your long healing process. With love Julia Hawkes-Moore. ###### Message-ID: <3B4ACE3E.A19EAE14@televar.com> From: dorothy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:35:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.26.236.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telisphere.com X-Trace: bcandid.telisphere.com 994757729 208.26.236.59 (Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:35:29 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:35:29 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!bcandid.telisphere.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68530 Stefan Ljungstrand wrote: > > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. [snip] > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > Gunnar obviously had. > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > See you out there! Thank you, Stefan and David. You and your family have been much in my thoughts. And for Gunnar - though sadness may reign for a time, we also rejoice over a life so well-lived that it serves to up-lift us all. Dorothy ###### From: Ian H Spedding Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:25:44 +0100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3B4ACE3E.A19EAE14@televar.com> X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 39 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-uk-post-02!sn-uk-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68709 In article <3B4ACE3E.A19EAE14@televar.com>, dorthd@televar.com says... > Stefan Ljungstrand wrote: > > > > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. > > [snip] > > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > > > Gunnar obviously had. > > > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > > > See you out there! > > Thank you, Stefan and David. You and your family have been much in my > thoughts. > And for Gunnar - though sadness may reign for a time, we also rejoice > over a life so well-lived that it serves to up-lift us all. Well said, Dorothy. Gunnar's own words are probably his best epitaph but, reading Thomas Gray's "Elegy written in a country church-yard", it struck me that the final two verses were also fitting: Large was his bounty, and his soul sincere, Heaven did a recompense as largely send: He gave to Misery all he had, a tear, He gained from Heaven ('twas all he wish'd) a friend. No farther seek his merits to disclose, Or draw his frailties from their dread abode (There they alike in trembling hope repose), The bosom of his Father and his God. Ian ###### From: "dorothy" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <3B4ACE3E.A19EAE14@televar.com> Subject: Re: In memory of Gunnar Ljungstrand Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:35:08 -0700 Lines: 45 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 NNTP-Posting-Host: sanduser2064.bossig.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: sanduser2064.bossig.com Message-ID: <3b4c0339@news.newszilla.com> X-Trace: news.newszilla.com 994837305 sanduser2064.bossig.com (11 Jul 2001 02:41:45 -0500) X-Original-Trace: 11 Jul 2001 02:41:45 -0500, sanduser2064.bossig.com Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.newszilla.com Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:68540 "Ian H Spedding" wrote in message news:MPG.15b574bf5aaac6aa9896ed@news.lineone.net... > In article <3B4ACE3E.A19EAE14@televar.com>, dorthd@televar.com says... > > Stefan Ljungstrand wrote: > > > > > > It seems to us that Gunnar was a avid poster to this group, and that > > > he was respected and liked by many of the posters around here. > > > > [snip] > > > > > *We shall all die sooner or later, but have we prepared ourselves?* > > > > > > Gunnar obviously had. > > > > > > To our beloved friend and brother, from Stefan and David, > > > > > > See you out there! > > > > Thank you, Stefan and David. You and your family have been much in my > > thoughts. > > And for Gunnar - though sadness may reign for a time, we also rejoice > > over a life so well-lived that it serves to up-lift us all. > > > Well said, Dorothy. > > Gunnar's own words are probably his best epitaph but, reading Thomas > Gray's "Elegy written in a country church-yard", it struck me that the > final two verses were also fitting: > > Large was his bounty, and his soul sincere, > Heaven did a recompense as largely send: > He gave to Misery all he had, a tear, > He gained from Heaven ('twas all he wish'd) a friend. > > No farther seek his merits to disclose, > Or draw his frailties from their dread abode > (There they alike in trembling hope repose), > The bosom of his Father and his God. > > Ian Very nice, Ian.