From: "William Bliss" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> Subject: Vibrational State induction method Lines: 67 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> X-Trace: NjcgTm9BdbFoVXNlciBURUxPQ0lUWS1SRR5ERVJTIDY0LjM0LjIz/S4yMjUgIFRodSwgMDQgSmFu!fzIwMDEgMDE6MDE6NTflUFNU X-Abuse-Info: Please forward ALL headers when reporting abuse. X-Complaints-To: abuse@telocity.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:01:57 PST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:46:34 -0500 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!telocity-west!TELOCITY!newsrump.sjc.telocity.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60584 Welcome Dale, The Vibrational State (VS) can, with practice, be induced anywhere and anytime even when fully awake and/or moving. Here's the method you need to practice. It works for many people but may take some serious practice. 1) Start by getting VERY comfortable lying down. 2) Seriously and carefully relax every muscle of your body. 3) Transfer all your awareness to only your toes. If you are comfortable with "mystical" ideas you should "will" bio-energy to intensify in your toes. 4) Slowly move this zone of awareness up your body (and its associated bio-energy). The arches of your feet, heels, ankles,... Don't excite any muscles as you do this as it causes sensations of blood pressure changes that can mask the intended sensations. 5) When you have slowly moved your awareness all the way to the top of your head then do the same thing coming down. 6) Continue this practice, very slowly at first but then ever so slightly faster. If you lose the feeling of localized awareness just start again at your best (up & down) speed. 7) As you get faster (say up & down in 2-3 seconds) it can help to think of your awareness as being a fluid surging through your body. Try to intensify this feeling both by going faster and by adding more of this fluid. At some point, as you get faster, the VS will quickly spread over your entire body. For me it always kicks in when my up-down cycles hit around 4 Hz. You'll know it from its distinctly "comfortable electric shock" feeling. 8) After some success while laying down try other positions (sitting, standing, yoga) and eventually try it during slow movements like walking BUT NEVER WHEN DRIVING!. Good luck Wm "Dale" wrote in message news:3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net... > Hello. I am a "newbie" to the whole OOB thing, but very curious. I > have a question that I hope the local experts here in this ng could > assist with: > > I can relax my body fairly well, using various methods. I then > proceed to concentrate solely on one part of my body, say, my left > hand, until I get a vibrating (for lack of a better word) feeling in > it, then I try to keep that feeling going and then also add my right > hand, then my feet, etc... > > I can get several body parts going like that, but that's it so far. > Am I on the right track? > > If anyone can help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Should I keep on > with my efforts, trying to get that feeling over my entire body? Seems > like I'm a long way away from that point! > > Thanks in advance, > > Dale ###### From: veight_2036@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Vibrational State induction method Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:54:52 GMT Organization: Deja.com Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9326c6$ed9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.109.132.116 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 04 15:54:52 2001 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; COM+ 1.0.2204) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 anderson.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de:8080 (Squid/2.3.STABLE3), 1.0 x58.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client unknown, 134.109.132.116 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDveight_2036 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.pop.de!fu-berlin.de!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60479 Hi William, I tried that before, but i can't move my awareness out of my head. Any suggestion to start this transfer? Thanks in advance, Veight. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ###### From: res09bdc@gte.net (Dale) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Vibrational State induction method Message-ID: <3a550680.197404897@news.gte.net> References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 76 X-Trace: +SMlUMShZQubUdJXcj+2kqJvYNePaE7QpkAxX7Q/SbvFm2eScZkFwn07FzsvxqGYYUO696To7PC7!ah+FGoRqODnfkCPpsRRFvD0MUlNmxYVF14rPIzDbdj+j+BFpo470bWckfIS8ovO7CVA69P2OsqSs X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:26:48 GMT Distribution: world Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:26:48 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!news.tesion.net!news.belwue.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60498 Thanks for the info! I should have read your post prior to posting my last note on the thread I started.... thank you! Dale "William Bliss" wrote: >Welcome Dale, > >The Vibrational State (VS) can, with practice, be induced >anywhere and anytime even when fully awake and/or >moving. Here's the method you need to practice. It >works for many people but may take some serious >practice. > >1) Start by getting VERY comfortable lying down. >2) Seriously and carefully relax every muscle of your body. >3) Transfer all your awareness to only your toes. If you >are comfortable with "mystical" ideas you should "will" >bio-energy to intensify in your toes. >4) Slowly move this zone of awareness up your body (and >its associated bio-energy). The arches of your feet, heels, >ankles,... Don't excite any muscles as you do this as it >causes sensations of blood pressure changes that can >mask the intended sensations. >5) When you have slowly moved your awareness all >the way to the top of your head then do the same thing >coming down. >6) Continue this practice, very slowly at first but then >ever so slightly faster. If you lose the feeling of localized >awareness just start again at your best (up & down) speed. >7) As you get faster (say up & down in 2-3 seconds) it can >help to think of your awareness as being a fluid surging >through your body. Try to intensify this feeling both by >going faster and by adding more of this fluid. > >At some point, as you get faster, the VS will quickly spread >over your entire body. For me it always kicks in when my >up-down cycles hit around 4 Hz. You'll know it from its >distinctly "comfortable electric shock" feeling. > >8) After some success while laying down try other positions >(sitting, standing, yoga) and eventually try it during slow >movements like walking BUT NEVER WHEN DRIVING!. > >Good luck > >Wm > > >"Dale" wrote in message >news:3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net... >> Hello. I am a "newbie" to the whole OOB thing, but very curious. I >> have a question that I hope the local experts here in this ng could >> assist with: >> >> I can relax my body fairly well, using various methods. I then >> proceed to concentrate solely on one part of my body, say, my left >> hand, until I get a vibrating (for lack of a better word) feeling in >> it, then I try to keep that feeling going and then also add my right >> hand, then my feet, etc... >> >> I can get several body parts going like that, but that's it so far. >> Am I on the right track? >> >> If anyone can help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Should I keep on >> with my efforts, trying to get that feeling over my entire body? Seems >> like I'm a long way away from that point! >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Dale > > ###### From: res09bdc@gte.net (Dale) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Vibrational State induction method Message-ID: <3a55464d.213740245@news.gte.net> References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 17 X-Trace: /w3Za7eJjYzBs5w0AOOEmuyXu5IJMC/2+dNY5uiPBd4NvR8DRUUNFlkLZxBV2pc/czbFiYiNbzkm!2n9FLmHKyC4TflUavC9qJI+QT8WsUlRwyCYSd2sXAvx5z5HJtoIs6PTO29uTRYOQ41A6JO5y1MzW X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 04:00:19 GMT Distribution: world Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 04:00:25 GMT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!merapi!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!195.25.12.36.MISMATCH!oleane.net!oleane!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!paloalto-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60503 William, is this awareness a "feeling", I mean, is what I descibed in my post this same "feeling"? What should this awareness actually feel like? Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to understand. Thanks in advance, Dale "William Bliss" wrote: >5) When you have slowly moved your awareness all >the way to the top of your head then do the same thing >coming down. ###### From: "William Bliss" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> <3a55464d.213740245@news.gte.net> Subject: Re: Vibrational State induction method Lines: 71 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-Trace: 8ffmiKmHs7Kuk7WjtOaSg4qJhY+Sn+uUg4eCg5SV5vDy6PXy6PT1/uj09PPm5oC0r+rm9vPmjKeo!5vT29vfm9/f89vL89vDmlpWS X-Abuse-Info: Please forward ALL headers when reporting abuse. X-Complaints-To: abuse@telocity.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:04:06 PST Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:59:05 -0500 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!195.25.12.36.MISMATCH!oleane.net!oleane!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!telocity-west!TELOCITY!newsrump.sjc.telocity.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60586 "Dale" wrote in message news:3a55464d.213740245@news.gte.net... > William, is this awareness a "feeling", I mean, is what I descibed in > my post this same "feeling"? I'm a tad reticent to comment on what your "feeling" may have been. I will say that when I do a deep relaxation I often feel a wide variety of changes in sensations. One of them is sort of tingly in nature. This is one indicator of good relaxation but is not IMO connected to the Vibrational State (VS). >What should this awareness actually feel like? The awareness I was referring to is simply ones normal awareness of ones body, but highly localized. In other words, centering one's awareness on a single area means (in part) to exclude one's awareness of the other body areas. It's as simple as that. It could be called focusing one's attention. Some people believe that the focusing of this attention will inevitably move bio-energies to this location. By moving the attention area, one is also moving these energies, and this is good. These people would also say that "blockages" tend to hinder this movement of bio-energies and also prevent getting OOB. So, their theory is, by forcing this movement one can slowly clear away these blockages and become more proficient as a Projector (more Lucid, more often, etc). At this point other people in this NG should take over as I personally have very little theoretical understanding of what "blockages" are or what causes them. My only testimony is that the VS can be induced by a concerted practice of this Up-Down technique. Back to OOB techniques, though... Installing the VS is only one of the handful of steps that seems to be required to induce a "waking" projection. The other steps are also important to learn and practice. IMHO the act of getting OOB is a combined skill of perfecting and coordinating all these "steps". A possible analogy would be all the many skills needed to pilot a helicopter. You can't perfect just one of these skills (starting the engine) and expect to fly anywhere! Some may be born natural pilots but almost anyone can learn if they try hard enough. The VS is just one of these skills. I outlined a procedure for learning to induce it because sometimes people find themselves in the Sleep Paralysis state (another skill), waiting for the VS to start, when all they need to do is learn to induce it. > > Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to understand. You think YOU have questions... :-) Questioning is the second best way to learn, right after teaching! Wm ###### From: "William Bliss" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <3a53dc66.121068457@news.gte.net> <9_W46.2815$Er.439958@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net> <9326c6$ed9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Vibrational State induction method Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-Trace: 9PTmiKmHs7Kuk7WjtOaSg4qJhY+Sn+uUg4eCg5SV5vDy6PXy6PT1/uj09PPm5oC0r+rm9vPmjKeo!5vT29vfm9/f89/H88vfmlpWS X-Abuse-Info: Please forward ALL headers when reporting abuse. X-Complaints-To: abuse@telocity.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:17:41 PST Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:12:41 -0500 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!telocity-west!TELOCITY!newsrump.sjc.telocity.net!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:60587 wrote in message news:9326c6$ed9$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hi William, > > I tried that before, but i can't move my awareness out of my head. Any > suggestion to start this transfer? Sorry Veight! My posting must not have been as understandable as I would've liked. What I was trying to say is that the vibrations people often speak of can be induced at will through the technique I outlined. The "awareness" I was referring to is NOT an OOB awareness but simply a very localized attention on one's body. For more info refer to my (1/5/00 1:59pm) response to Dale's reply. Wm