From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Voices in the night (OT?) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:28:27 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 149 Message-ID: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-109.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41414 Hi Group: This morning I heard two different types of auditory anomolies and decided to try a little exper- iment. There have been a number of threads lately from people experiencing similar, often con- fusing and loud auditory phenomena and it seemed like a good time to take the effort to examine my own anomalies closer. I think you'll agree that the results were worth the effort and, I believe, possibly provide a reasonable explanation for a phenomena too easily and quickly assigned a paranormal origin. Two factors that seem to apply to my particular situation are warmer weather and an increase in aerial pollen content. I say this because I'm now using a fan while I sleep and my sinuses have reacted worse this year than in the past to our very warm and wet Spring. The connection will become clear in a moment. Very early this morning, I woke up from a dream and had a hard time breathing. My efforts to clear my nose woke me up fully and I lay in bed, sniffing and unable to get back to sleep easily. Then, as I was drifting off to sleep, I heard music. Very faint but very distinct Classical music that sounded like a String section playing. I immediately opened my eyes and sat up, listening intently. I couldn't hear it as I very carefully "scanned" my environment. I lay back down and after a few minutes, I again found myself paying more attention to my inner hypnagogia as I became more relaxed and sure enough, there was the music again. Now, it sounded very real and very melodic. There was no doubt in my mind that somewhere in my room, there was a radio playing really low. I opened my eyes and it stopped immediately. I got up and walked over to my little portable radio I have sitting on a shelf above my computer that I'll sometimes have on in the background as I type away on my word processor. I checked to see if it was on at a very low volume, but it was not. Hmmmmm. I walked to the window and stuck my ear against the screen, trying to determine if someone was out in the street, listening to their radio at 4 am; nope, nothing going on out there. Ok, this was starting to really bug me. I lay back down and finally, after about 15 minutes of forcing myself to pay attention as I drifted off, I noticed that my sinuses started whistling very very softly as I passed from relaxed-waking State to Stage 1 sleep! Sure enough, I repeated this excercise 3 more times and confirmed that a very slight auditory whistleing in my nasal passages was being interpreted as classical music by my brain....it was pretty funny, actually, once I isolated the source. Finally, I went into the bathroom and located an old sinus spray bottle and cleared up my nose and figured I could finally get some sleep. Not yet :) So, I was breathing better and settled back onto the bed, very tired, but smiling about my little discovery. The music I heard was pure, complex and very real to my brain and each time I heard it, the tune was slightly different, but it was percieved as being from an outside source...there was absolutely no doubt about that conclusion, until, of course, I had identified it's true source. So, I was happy to have gone to the trouble of keeping my awareness, my "wits", if you will, about me as I fell asleep. Finally, I could get some zzzzzz's. Then, as I drifted off, I heard a very clear, very distinct voice speaking from just a foot or two from my face, "Sometime to go...." and my eyes popped open widely and I sat up, heart racing! It was SO CLEAR! The voice was male, no doubt about that, and the pronunciation very clear. What the HELL was THAT?! I declared out loud. I swear, I thought there was someone in the room with me, it was that definite of a perception. "Damn," I thought, "this just isn't my night for sleep!" and I shook it off, laying back down. It took a good twenty minutes for me to get relaxed enough to start drifting off to sleep. My nose had become slightly more closed up but it wasn't whistleing this time...I made sure of it as I "watched" my body functions and the room around me as I drifted further into hypnagogia-ville. I was now seeing very definite dream-like images as my body fully relaxed and I was about to allow myself to give into sleep completely when I heard a voice again...this time, a woman's! "...kitchen colors are too bright....". Very clear and "right next" to my ear. WHOA! I sat up, startled. What the hell is going ON HERE! I spoke out loud. Then, on a slight chance that someone was "visiting" me (hey, at this point, I was CONVINCED there was something VERY weird going on!), I spoke out loud, "Ok, I'm here, talk to me!". Nothing. I was pretty upset at this point. I got up and grabbed my Sony voice-activated mini cassette recorder and brought it back to bed with me. I set the "sensitivity" for the voice activation to "high" and placed it flat onto the bed, turned on, but not running, because of the silence and checked that it functioned properly. "Ok," I thought,"if there IS something in the room with me, perhaps I can get it on tape". I lay down and went through a progressive relaxation excercise that I use when I have trouble falling asleep. As you might well imagine, even this didn't help much, but I was serious now about finding out what the hell was going on here. Finally, after I'd worked from toe-to-head twice, I started to drift off to sleep again...the recorder just to the side of my face as I lay on my left side. Relaxing...relaxing....I started to drift into full Stage 1 sleep, getting full dreamlike images again and letting myself give into them completely. Then, another male voice! "...coming to town Friday..." !!!!!! SHIT! I woke up and looked around...I mean the voice was RIGHT THERE! I reached over, turned on my bedside lamp and looked at the cassette. YES! It HAD moved just a little because I had set it up at the very beginning of the leader and now it had wrapped around the spool at least once...only the brown of the magnetic tape showing. I rewound it, thinking I might have actually caught a paranormal Electronic Voice Phenomenon! Cool! I pressed play and I heard two distinct SNORK SNORKS!! I had started to SNORE and somehow my brain had processed these very brief SNORKS into complex, understandable sentences! aHA! So, the mystery was solved. First, the very recognizable notes of a symphony orchestra string section, caused by the very very faint whistleing in my nose...and now, very distinct voices that were actually my snoring. So, the point of all this, I suppose, is never EVER assign a paranormal explanation to a perception/ experience, until you've fully eliminated all possible other explanations. There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. Thanks for listening. Haunter ###### From: Craig Shillington Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:58:39 +1000 Lines: 34 Message-ID: <3919F7AF.B7ECC57C@satway.com.au> References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> Reply-To: primrose@satway.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3-1.horsham.megasat.net.au (209.233.57.146) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 958003131 11079942 209.233.57.146 (16 [27978]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!ppp3-1.horsham.megasat.net.AU!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41407 Hi Haunter, There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. > Thanks for listening. > Haunter Ahhhhhhhh, very good mate. :-) Not to look down upon what you have discovered, what you say makes perfect sense to me and I'm sure others will benefit greatly from the time and effort you put into this. BUT ... lol. Even though I don't believe the sounds are of a paranormal origin, I don't think it fair to lump them into something as simple as snoring or other external noises interpreted in different ways by our brains. I am of the belief that some of these 'Voices of the night' may also originate from 'internal' chatter, much like the buzzing sound so often heard before an OBE. Also, who's to say that the voices aren't actually the sound of our consciousness? Nothing paranormal about that. What if we can get ourselves in such a state that we can literally *hear* our own thoughts? This is more along the lines of my belief. I have heard noises and woken to realize they were external (alarm going off, trucks or traffic etc. etc.) AND, I have heard other sounds while in the hypnogogic state that I can't rationalize away in a physical way. :-) All the best Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin -- ###### From: voscoady@takethisout.intergate.bc.ca (Honoria's husband) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:14:45 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 166 Message-ID: <3919f4be.1130735@news.intergate.ca> References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!feeder.qis.net!sn-xit-01!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41413 (on top) Interesting post, Haunter. Strangely enough, I've listened to some modern 'classical' music and thought it sounded like nose whistling... ;) Do you think that most anomalous sounds in the head can be attributed to real, 'outside' sounds? We can dream up sights, smells, sensations and feelings from memory, and of course sounds -- were you referring mostly to the kinds of perceived sounds (and voices) that tend to wake us up? Leo (ps: I posted about a 'whisper' I heard a week or two ago, but lost a bunch of headers after that...apologies if a reply was expected by anyone...) On Wed, 10 May 2000 21:28:27 GMT, Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) wrote: >Hi Group: >This morning I heard two different types of auditory anomolies and >decided to try a little exper- >iment. There have been a number of threads lately from people >experiencing similar, often con- >fusing and loud auditory phenomena and it seemed like a good time to >take the effort to examine >my own anomalies closer. I think you'll agree that the results were >worth the effort and, I >believe, possibly provide a reasonable explanation for a phenomena too >easily and quickly >assigned a paranormal origin. >Two factors that seem to apply to my particular situation are warmer >weather and an increase in >aerial pollen content. I say this because I'm now using a fan while I >sleep and my sinuses have >reacted worse this year than in the past to our very warm and wet >Spring. The connection will >become clear in a moment. >Very early this morning, I woke up from a dream and had a hard time >breathing. My efforts to clear > my nose woke me up fully and I lay in bed, sniffing and unable to get >back to sleep easily. >Then, as I was drifting off to sleep, I heard music. Very faint but >very distinct Classical music >that sounded like a String section playing. I immediately opened my >eyes and sat up, listening >intently. I couldn't hear it as I very carefully "scanned" my >environment. I lay back down and >after a few minutes, I again found myself paying more attention to my >inner hypnagogia as I >became more relaxed and sure enough, there was the music again. >Now, it sounded very real and very melodic. There was no doubt in my >mind that somewhere in my >room, there was a radio playing really low. I opened my eyes and it >stopped immediately. I got up >and walked over to my little portable radio I have sitting on a shelf >above my computer that I'll >sometimes have on in the background as I type away on my word >processor. I checked to see if it >was on at a very low volume, but it was not. Hmmmmm. I walked to the >window and stuck my ear >against the screen, trying to determine if someone was out in the >street, listening to their >radio at 4 am; nope, nothing going on out there. >Ok, this was starting to really bug me. >I lay back down and finally, after about 15 minutes of forcing myself >to pay attention as I drifted >off, I noticed that my sinuses started whistling very very softly as I >passed from relaxed-waking >State to Stage 1 sleep! Sure enough, I repeated this excercise 3 more >times and confirmed that >a very slight auditory whistleing in my nasal passages was being >interpreted as classical music >by my brain....it was pretty funny, actually, once I isolated the >source. >Finally, I went into the bathroom and located an old sinus spray >bottle and cleared up my nose and >figured I could finally get some sleep. >Not yet :) >So, I was breathing better and settled back onto the bed, very tired, >but smiling about my little >discovery. The music I heard was pure, complex and very real to my >brain and each time I heard it, >the tune was slightly different, but it was percieved as being from an >outside source...there was >absolutely no doubt about that conclusion, until, of course, I had >identified it's true source. >So, I was happy to have gone to the trouble of keeping my awareness, >my "wits", if you will, about >me as I fell asleep. Finally, I could get some zzzzzz's. >Then, as I drifted off, I heard a very clear, very distinct voice >speaking from just a foot or >two from my face, >"Sometime to go...." >and my eyes popped open widely and I sat up, heart racing! >It was SO CLEAR! The voice was male, no doubt about that, and the >pronunciation very clear. What >the HELL was THAT?! I declared out loud. I swear, I thought there was >someone in the room with >me, it was that definite of a perception. >"Damn," I thought, "this just isn't my night for sleep!" and I shook >it off, laying back down. >It took a good twenty minutes for me to get relaxed enough to start >drifting off to sleep. My >nose had become slightly more closed up but it wasn't whistleing this >time...I made sure of it >as I "watched" my body functions and the room around me as I drifted >further into hypnagogia-ville. >I was now seeing very definite dream-like images as my body fully >relaxed and I was about to allow >myself to give into sleep completely when I heard a voice again...this >time, a woman's! >"...kitchen colors are too bright....". >Very clear and "right next" to my ear. >WHOA! I sat up, startled. >What the hell is going ON HERE! I spoke out loud. Then, on a slight >chance that someone was >"visiting" me (hey, at this point, I was CONVINCED there was something >VERY weird going on!), >I spoke out loud, "Ok, I'm here, talk to me!". >Nothing. >I was pretty upset at this point. I got up and grabbed my Sony >voice-activated mini cassette >recorder and brought it back to bed with me. I set the "sensitivity" >for the voice activation to >"high" and placed it flat onto the bed, turned on, but not running, >because of the silence and >checked that it functioned properly. >"Ok," I thought,"if there IS something in the room with me, perhaps I >can get it on tape". >I lay down and went through a progressive relaxation excercise that I >use when I have trouble >falling asleep. As you might well imagine, even this didn't help much, >but I was serious now about >finding out what the hell was going on here. Finally, after I'd worked >from toe-to-head twice, I >started to drift off to sleep again...the recorder just to the side of >my face as I lay on my >left side. >Relaxing...relaxing....I started to drift into full Stage 1 sleep, >getting full dreamlike images >again and letting myself give into them completely. >Then, another male voice! >"...coming to town Friday..." !!!!!! >SHIT! I woke up and looked around...I mean the voice was RIGHT THERE! >I reached over, turned on my bedside lamp and looked at the cassette. >YES! It HAD moved just a >little because I had set it up at the very beginning of the leader and >now it had wrapped around >the spool at least once...only the brown of the magnetic tape showing. >I rewound it, thinking I might have actually caught a paranormal >Electronic Voice Phenomenon! Cool! >I pressed play and I heard two distinct SNORK SNORKS!! I had started >to SNORE and somehow my >brain had processed these very brief SNORKS into complex, >understandable sentences! aHA! >So, the mystery was solved. >First, the very recognizable notes of a symphony orchestra string >section, caused by the very >very faint whistleing in my nose...and now, very distinct voices that >were actually my snoring. >So, the point of all this, I suppose, is never EVER assign a >paranormal explanation to a perception/ >experience, until you've fully eliminated all possible other >explanations. >There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. >Thanks for listening. >Haunter ###### Message-ID: <391A074A.23A5@not-here.net> From: Janice X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> <3919F7AF.B7ECC57C@satway.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:03:44 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv2-pobR2B786PfewYOQusKKK9ML8VMu13Z8XvNc09Q35fPT/kJRa+unHYiwihDNpUmjzE0xXeDMY3gqxab!vvuaw4mTEaDcWSQOunjESmujQU0= X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:05:14 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41378 Craig Shillington wrote: > > Hi Haunter, > > > > There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. > > Thanks for listening. > > Haunter > > Ahhhhhhhh, very good mate. :-) Not to look down upon what you have > discovered, what you say makes perfect sense to me and I'm sure > others will benefit greatly from the time and effort you put into > this. BUT ... lol. Even though I don't believe the sounds are of a > paranormal origin, I don't think it fair to lump them into something > as simple as snoring or other external noises interpreted in > different ways by our brains. I am of the belief that some of these > 'Voices of the night' may also originate from 'internal' chatter, > much like the buzzing sound so often heard before an OBE. Also, > who's to say that the voices aren't actually the sound of our > consciousness? Nothing paranormal about that. What if we can get > ourselves in such a state that we can literally *hear* our own > thoughts? This is more along the lines of my belief. I have heard > noises and woken to realize they were external (alarm going off, > trucks or traffic etc. etc.) AND, I have heard other sounds while in > the hypnogogic state that I can't rationalize away in a physical > way. :-) I suspect that the voices have a variety of sources (consider this an answer to your earlier question to me too, Lorene). Sometimes they are probably transformed external sensory perceptions, as in Haunter's case. Sometimes they may just be randomized activity in the verbal processing or memory centers of the brain. Sometimes they really do appear to be my own thoughts, just gone off in a kind of stream of consciousness ramble. Whatever they are, they do seem to be internal - their character has undergone various changes during different periods in time when I conceptualized them differently, if I have a lot of auditory stimulation during the day then they usually match it to a degree (like if I'm at a party I'll hear the voices of people who were at the party), and if I get far enough "under" while remaining lucid I can control them - make them say what I want, or be in a particular person's voice, etc. ###### From: "lorz" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:26:05 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.77.205.217 X-Trace: news4.atl 958051694 216.77.205.217 (Thu, 11 May 2000 09:28:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:28:14 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.atl!news4.atl.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41478 Haunter wrote in message <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com>... :Hi Group: :There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. :Thanks for listening. :Haunter That's pretty cool Haunter! I think you need to do this a few more times and see if the results are the same . Do you think that people who dont hear any voices just dont snore? LOL And how about the people who do snore and dont hear voices? Just curious how this might work... Lorene ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:19:11 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3925c059.67845047@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-468.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41491 On Thu, 11 May 2000 09:26:05 -0400, "lorz" wrote: > >Haunter wrote in message <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com>... >:Hi Group: >:There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. >:Thanks for listening. >:Haunter > >That's pretty cool Haunter! I think you need to do this a few more times and >see if the results are the same . >Do you think that people who dont hear any voices just dont snore? LOL >And how about the people who do snore and dont hear voices? >Just curious how this might work... > >Lorene > Hi Lorene: The effects were repeatable to my satisfaction; I've no doubt about the source for this one series of events. I can't speak for the generalizability to other people's experiences, I just wanted to document my own attempts to find the cause of this one strange morning's activity. It was fun being able to go back, time and again, until I was able to identify the source of the sounds and I only suggest that others can/should do the same kind of tests when/if it happens to them. That's all. Haunter ###### From: "lorz" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> <3925c059.67845047@cnews.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Lines: 42 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:12:53 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.77.205.193 X-Trace: news4.atl 958061751 216.77.205.193 (Thu, 11 May 2000 12:15:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:15:51 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!intermedia!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.atl!news4.atl.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41459 Haunter wrote in message <3925c059.67845047@cnews.newsguy.com>... : :On Thu, 11 May 2000 09:26:05 -0400, "lorz" wrote: : :> :>Haunter wrote in message <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com>... :>:Hi Group: :>:There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. :>:Thanks for listening. :>:Haunter :> :>That's pretty cool Haunter! I think you need to do this a few more times and :>see if the results are the same . :>Do you think that people who dont hear any voices just dont snore? LOL :>And how about the people who do snore and dont hear voices? :>Just curious how this might work... :> :>Lorene :> :Hi Lorene: :The effects were repeatable to my satisfaction; I've no doubt about :the source for this one series of events. :I can't speak for the generalizability to other people's experiences, :I just wanted to document my own attempts to find the cause of this :one strange morning's activity. :It was fun being able to go back, time and again, until I was able to :identify the source of the sounds and I only suggest that others :can/should do the same kind of tests when/if it happens to them. :That's all. :Haunter Cool haunter , I'll definitely try it. Another question though: After you realized the sources for the voices did you experience them again when finally falling to sleep? Thanks! Lorene ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:57:08 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 15 Message-ID: <392de5ec.77465451@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> <3925c059.67845047@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-858.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!news3.bellglobal.com.MISMATCH!nf1.mgmt.sympatico.ca!cyclone.rdc-detw.rr.com!news.mw.mediaone.net!news.eecs.umich.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4 Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41504 On Thu, 11 May 2000 12:12:53 -0400, "lorz" wrote: >Cool haunter , I'll definitely try it. Another question though: >After you realized the sources for the voices did you experience them again >when finally falling to sleep? > >Thanks! >Lorene > > No, after identifying it's source, and I was so exhausted with the constant 'vigilance' to stay "awake" while falling asleep, I drifted off to a wonderfully peaceful rest for the rest of the morning. :-) Haunter ###### Message-ID: <391B31E0.F62@not-here.net> From: Janice X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Voices in the night (OT?) References: <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:27 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv2-0iWuyJ26MriM9ciB3R3bVFdgMobh8SdNfHvhN2AJWYxmAv8uSBivM6s2c0wU/yVRtMeQV862N8pm/Q6!LQcssmhAFnWq5V+uyVxKYOjPy2k= X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:19:12 -0400 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!howland.erols.net!outgoing.news.rcn.net.MISMATCH!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.giganews.com!news5.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: chonsp.franklin.ch alt.out-of-body:41541 lorz wrote: > > Haunter wrote in message <391cd46e.7440877@cnews.newsguy.com>... > :Hi Group: > :There's a good lesson there for anyone who's had similar experiences. > :Thanks for listening. > :Haunter > > That's pretty cool Haunter! I think you need to do this a few more times and > see if the results are the same . > Do you think that people who dont hear any voices just dont snore? LOL > And how about the people who do snore and dont hear voices? > Just curious how this might work... I had a case today where a short snore turned into a hoarse male voice saying "Hi." I can tell it a snore was responsible because it woke me up so I caught the tail-end of the snore! :)