From: gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:21:11 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!howland.erols.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Sorry, im having trouble posting replies today but geddie says: ' I agree the Earth is wonderful, but no place that death exists could be "Heaven" ' My answer to this is; Even death is an illusion. Once we can come awake inside our dreams, death takes on a different persona. And we no longer fear it as dying and final, we simply change bodies/form... We move our consciousness into another level. We call this part of ourselves 'mind,. 'spirit' or 'soul'... This is the message of Eternity and how Eternity exists within and around us...right here, now, on this palnet, in this time. It is the goal of the perfected human to venture into the unexplored places of mind and spirit. To find that thread which runs thru all of Time. What did you think you were going to find? You will find YourSelf in a dream, in a place where time is truly relative, and only as lyou see it... where there is no measure. And i can do it from here and so can we all. Wasnt Eternity the message of Jesus? And isnt Eternity the promise of Heaven? We all want to live forever... but where can we do that? Can we do it in a world where time is measured out to the milli-second? Or is there something more to us that cant be measured? Something that exists with us, that we carry or are, at all times We all want to believe in our immortal souls but pity we dont count on them being immortal until we die. What we are learning in our dreaming is how not to die, how to catch up with the speed of light, to exist in the light, to become the light ... Only a light-body can exist within the Light. And within the Light is where Heaven exits...just beyond the darkness of doubt, fear, sorrow and pain. These are the things we must overcome if we want to see. We are here now, in an alive place with a perspective and a chance. What is happening as we become more and more aware is a transmutation of form at the most infinetesimal level. We are stepping up the vibration, that is what it is to experience yourself as awake within a dream or OBE. Once you can see this awareness, you will see it in all of Nature and then the miracle will be apparent and you will wonder how you could have ever missed it. Look there...i tell you, we are already here, floating thru the whole sky... Earth is contained within the Heavens and the Heavens within the Earth. As I live in a body, I live in a Dream. jean galliano ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:46 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 79 Message-ID: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967217.justice.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 938553164 8026 195.92.4.79 (28 Sep 1999 21:12:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:12:44 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!uunet!ams.uu.net!do.de.uu.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.icl.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail GALLIANOJ wrote in message <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com>... > Sorry, im having trouble posting replies today but > geddie says: > ' I agree the Earth is wonderful, but no place that death exists could be >"Heaven" ' > >My answer to this is; > >Even death is an illusion. > >Once we can come awake inside our dreams, death takes on a different persona. >And we no longer fear it as dying and final, we simply change bodies/form... We >move our consciousness into another level. We call this part of ourselves >'mind,. 'spirit' or 'soul'... >This is the message of Eternity and how Eternity exists within and around >us...right here, now, on this palnet, in this time. It is the goal of the >perfected human to venture into the unexplored places of mind and spirit. To >find that thread which runs thru all of Time. What did you think you were going >to find? You will find YourSelf in a dream, in a place where time is truly >relative, and only as lyou see it... where there is no measure. And i can do >it from here and so can we all. > Wasnt Eternity the message of Jesus? And isnt Eternity the promise of Heaven? > We all want to live forever... but where can we do that? Can we do it in a >world where time is measured out to the milli-second? Or is there something >more to us that cant be measured? Something that exists with us, that we carry >or are, at all times We all want to believe in our immortal souls but pity we >dont count on them being immortal until we die. >What we are learning in our dreaming is how not to die, how to catch up with >the speed of light, to exist in the light, to become the light ... Only a >light-body can exist within the Light. And within the Light is where Heaven >exits...just beyond the darkness of doubt, fear, sorrow and pain. These are >the things we must overcome if we want to see. We are here now, in an alive >place with a perspective and a chance. >What is happening as we become more and more aware is a transmutation of form >at the most infinetesimal level. We are stepping up the vibration, that is what >it is to experience yourself as awake within a dream or OBE. Once you can see >this awareness, you will see it in all of Nature and then the miracle will be >apparent and you will wonder how you could have ever missed it. Look there...i >tell you, we are already here, floating thru the whole sky... >Earth is contained within the Heavens and the Heavens within the Earth. >As I live in a body, I live in a Dream. >jean galliano Hi Jean This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! Love carol ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:56:49 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 22 Message-ID: <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-093.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!feed.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!cyclone.pbi.net!165.113.238.17!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:46 +0100, wrote: >>>Major Dreamy Heaven Snippage<<<<<< >Hi Jean > >This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four >years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had >died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair >to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. > >It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand >something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I >believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . > > "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! > >Love carol > That's a very cool explanation, Carol; thanks for that. Mind if I borrow that sometime? How much are the royalties? :) Haunter ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:59:37 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 25 Message-ID: <37ff47ca.49603953@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-115.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!feed.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!cyclone.pbi.net!165.113.238.17!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:46 +0100, wrote: >Hi Jean > >This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four >years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had >died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair >to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. > >It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand >something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I >believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . > > "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! > >Love carol > Oh, I meant to add that my Sister once gave the traditional "Up there" explanation to her daughter who immediately looked up with a scrunched up eyebrow and pronounced.."oh!! Heaven is where the Space Shuttle is!!!" It can take her years to get THAT one straightened out! :-) Haunter ###### From: "Ian Wilson" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:23:37 GMT Organization: Death Lines: 28 Message-ID: <01bf0a1a$3f60d000$85d566cf@deathlord> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!remarQ-easT!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail > Even death is an illusion. I agree... > What we are learning in our dreaming is how not to die, how to catch up with > the speed of light, to exist in the light, to become the light ... Only a > light-body can exist within the Light. And within the Light is where Heaven > exits...just beyond the darkness of doubt, fear, sorrow and pain. These are > the things we must overcome if we want to see. We are here now, in an alive > place with a perspective and a chance. I just look at this as an experience for the soul... like a bad acid trip or a good one depending on the lifestyle. But it is created from a level we reach in our dreams. > As I live in a body, I live in a Dream. You mean this isn't just another highly organized dream? All we are, are endless streams of eternity forming thoughts and experience to pass boredom and monotony. Cheers, Ian ###### From: geddiea95@aol.com (G EddieA95) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Sep 1999 03:35:21 GMT References: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990928233521.01157.00001006@ng-fy1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >that I >believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . > > "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! > >Love carol Dear Carol: aren't you risking that when she takes high-school psychology, and learns that dreaming is just a basic function of our brain, she will come to believe that Heaven is a lie? ---GEA ###### From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:17:27 GMT Organization: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET WorldCom Lines: 9 Message-ID: <37f2734d.639052@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <19990928233521.01157.00001006@ng-fy1.aol.com> Reply-To: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com NNTP-Posting-Host: useral89.uk.uudial.com X-Trace: lure.pipex.net 938633217 23695 62.188.134.162 (29 Sep 1999 19:26:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Sep 1999 19:26:57 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.news.pipex.net!pipex!not-for-mail On 29 Sep 1999 03:35:21 GMT, geddiea95@aol.com (G EddieA95) wrote: >Dear Carol: aren't you risking that when she takes high-school psychology, and >learns that dreaming is just a basic function of our brain, she will come to >believe that Heaven is a lie? Either that, or that high-school psychology is a lie. Then the choice between them will be her decision. Love from Julia. ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:01:31 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 41 Message-ID: <7sv8ep$usn$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <19990928233521.01157.00001006@ng-fy1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967184.folklore.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 938681625 31639 195.92.5.240 (30 Sep 1999 08:53:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 1999 08:53:45 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail -----Original Message----- From: G EddieA95 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Date: 29 September 1999 04:35 Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? >>that I >>believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . >> >> "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! >> >>Love carol > >Dear Carol: aren't you risking that when she takes high-school psychology, and >learns that dreaming is just a basic function of our brain, she will come to >believe that Heaven is a lie? > Dear Gea Hopefully my grandaughter will always be free to believe whatever she likes, just as you are. And I hope that she will always remain the beautiful dreamer that she is and that her loveliest dreams come true . . . (sounds like I'm going to burst into song, doesn't it? My dogs will probably leave home if I do.) And who knows, maybe the physicists will have caught up a bit with alternative frequency realities by then. Though now you come to mention it, is she ever going to forgive me those porkies that I tell her about that eccentric character with the flowing white beard that whoops across the sky on a reindeer? Love carol ---GEA ###### From: geddiea95@aol.com (G EddieA95) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:57:47 GMT References: <7svelt$g3p$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990930065747.20804.00000015@ng-cc1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!bignews.mediaways.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail > and pronounced.."oh!! Heaven is where the Space Shuttle >>is!!!" It can take her years to get THAT one >>straightened out! :-) I had the same idea as a child (except that in those years, it was the Apollo, not the Shuttle). I asked my parents if the Apollo could be used to get to Heaven without being dead; to which they responded that "no, Heaven is too far away." As I learned just how enormous the sky is, this made more and more sense. ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:15:55 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 24 Message-ID: <38114614.113422287@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <37ff47ca.49603953@cnews.newsguy.com> <7svelt$g3p$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-378.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:44:23 +0100, wrote: > >Haunter wrote in message <37ff47ca.49603953@cnews.newsguy.com>... Hi Carol: Glad you got a smile out of it...and who knows, maybe my Neice will be motivated to be an astronaut now, just to find out :-) haunter >>Oh, I meant to add that my Sister once gave the traditional "Up there" >>explanation to her daughter who immediately looked up with a scrunched >>up eyebrow and pronounced.."oh!! Heaven is where the Space Shuttle >>is!!!" It can take her years to get THAT one >>straightened out! :-) > >Hi Haunter > >That's really funny :o) I was smiling over that one for quite some time! > >Love carol > >>Haunter > ###### From: Haunter@castles.com (Haunter) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:22:05 GMT Organization: AlteredState Imaging/Psi App/WCS Lines: 37 Message-ID: <381246a6.113567968@cnews.newsguy.com> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com> <7svelu$g3p$2@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-403.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!colt.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.axxsys.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:45:28 +0100, wrote: > >Haunter wrote in message <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com>... > >>> >>>It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively >understand >>>something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that >I >>>believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . >>> >>> "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! >>> >>>Love carol >>> >>That's a very cool explanation, Carol; thanks for that. >>Mind if I borrow that sometime? > >You're very welcome Haunter > > How much are the royalties? :) > >Ooh, just blow me a kiss . . . > >Love carol :-0 Hope it was as good for you as it was for me Carol :) Haunter ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:44:23 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 39 Message-ID: <7svelt$g3p$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <37ff47ca.49603953@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967208.religion.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 938687997 16505 195.92.3.216 (30 Sep 1999 10:39:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:39:57 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!uninett.no!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Haunter wrote in message <37ff47ca.49603953@cnews.newsguy.com>... >On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:46 +0100, >wrote: > > >>Hi Jean >> >>This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four >>years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had >>died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair >>to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. >> >>It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand >>something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I >>believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . >> >> "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! >> >>Love carol >> >Oh, I meant to add that my Sister once gave the traditional "Up there" >explanation to her daughter who immediately looked up with a scrunched >up eyebrow and pronounced.."oh!! Heaven is where the Space Shuttle >is!!!" It can take her years to get THAT one >straightened out! :-) Hi Haunter That's really funny :o) I was smiling over that one for quite some time! Love carol >Haunter ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:45:28 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 39 Message-ID: <7svelu$g3p$2@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967208.religion.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 938687998 16505 195.92.3.216 (30 Sep 1999 10:39:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:39:58 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newspeer.ebone.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Haunter wrote in message <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com>... >On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:46 +0100, >wrote: > >>>>Major Dreamy Heaven Snippage<<<<<< >>Hi Jean >> >>This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four >>years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had >>died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair >>to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. >> >>It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand >>something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I >>believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . >> >> "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! >> >>Love carol >> >That's a very cool explanation, Carol; thanks for that. >Mind if I borrow that sometime? You're very welcome Haunter How much are the royalties? :) Ooh, just blow me a kiss . . . Love carol >Haunter ###### From: higlfrmtn@aol.com (HiGlFrmTn) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 30 Sep 1999 18:03:17 GMT References: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990930140317.21912.00000079@ng-fm1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi Jean This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! Love carol hi Carol, very well put.... i over heard my daughter (7) telling my yournger one(5) that heaven was way way far up in the sky once (something she learned in church im sure)... i quickly corrected her by telling her the same thing u did to your grandaughter (well along those lines)...... now im waiting for her to repeat it at school or church...... HaHa we'll have to see how that turns out.. Melissa ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:45:09 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 46 Message-ID: <7t0iud$ra8$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <19990928142111.22857.00003428@ng-cf1.aol.com> <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com> <7svelu$g3p$2@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> <381246a6.113567968@cnews.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967178.people.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 938725133 27976 195.92.3.118 (30 Sep 1999 20:58:53 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 1999 20:58:53 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Haunter wrote in message <381246a6.113567968@cnews.newsguy.com>... >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:45:28 +0100, >wrote: > >> >>Haunter wrote in message <37fe4751.49482469@cnews.newsguy.com>... >> >>>> >>>>It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively >>understand >>>>something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that >>I >>>>believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . >>>> >>>> "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! >>>> >>>>Love carol >>>> >>>That's a very cool explanation, Carol; thanks for that. >>>Mind if I borrow that sometime? >> >>You're very welcome Haunter >> >> How much are the royalties? :) >> >>Ooh, just blow me a kiss . . . >> >>Love carol >lips and kisses it lightly (wrinkling nose slightly at the remnants of >garlic chicken for dinner), takes aim at Carol, wAAAAYYY over there >and with palm extended, blows reeeeally hard. The kiss flies in her >direction, her eyes wide with excitement...but it falters! It bounces >once.....twice and rebounds nicely, and impacts Carol's cheek with an >audible SMACK!! Carol giggles and blushes like it was her first >kiss...> :-0 >Hope it was as good for you as it was for me Carol :) >Haunter A very breathless thank you Haunter Love carol :o) ###### From: Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Visit Heaven and God? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:00:00 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 44 Message-ID: <7t0iue$ra8$2@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <7srb0c$7qq$3@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> <19990930140317.21912.00000079@ng-fm1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem4294967178.people.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news8.svr.pol.co.uk 938725134 27976 195.92.3.118 (30 Sep 1999 20:58:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Sep 1999 20:58:54 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail HiGlFrmTn wrote in message <19990930140317.21912.00000079@ng-fm1.aol.com>... >Hi Jean > >This post takes me back to the time when my grandaughter, then only four >years old, had been told that someone had 'gone to Heaven' because she had >died. She came and asked me where Heaven was. I thought it just wasn't fair >to fob her off with 'Up in the sky'. > >It's strange sometimes how some small children will instinctively understand >something that adults can't always seem to take on board; I told her that I >believed it was on the other side of dreaming. She said immediately . . > > "Oh . . . I know where you mean!" . . . bless her! > >Love carol > >hi Carol, >very well put.... i over heard my daughter (7) telling my yournger one(5) that >heaven was way way far up in the sky once (something she learned in church im >sure)... i quickly corrected her by telling her the same thing u did to your >grandaughter (well along those lines)...... now im waiting for her to repeat it >at school or church...... HaHa we'll have to see how that turns out.. >Melissa Hi Melissa It's a whole new world of freedom for your children compared to the nonsense that most of us were inflicted with a tender age. Having a mother that leaves their minds open to their dreams is a head start in life. Perhaps your daughters will be able to teach them a thing or two in church . . .. ! :o) Love carol