From: gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: RE:Body Swap??/ NADA!! Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 25 Sep 1999 18:20:23 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Ive been reading some of this "poo-poo" about being able to swap bodies!! I do have something to say on this subject. Since we are in the woods yet about OBE and do not have many of the facts establlished i do want you all to know that many people will come out of the woodwork with outrageous claims and fast fixes for using OB to their fiendish ends! But listen up, there is one thing i do know about experiencing OBE and that is that You Are Experiening YourSelf at another LEVEL of consciousness. AND each of ourselves is as individual in tone and fequency as are our faces and fingerprints. No one else could ever have your exact fiingerprints no matter if 100 Billion people existed and not even an identical twin! I have traveled OB for many many years and i have a variety of experience to draw upon. I have been in the presence of angelic and demonic beings alike and i have had to perform Exorcisims at least twice on my own spirit... But no one can get into you without your agreement. You are the Master of Your domain, which is your consciousness, at any level...and you are the final say in whomever or whatever exists with you, in your aura, spirit or body. No one can Become you or assume you exact frequency. There may be cases where one could project a part of their consciousness into another person for healing or other remedial purposes but to assume that the entire frequency, the song of your whole being could be heard and resonated with completely and for long enough to affect such a SWAP is just Science Fiction. There is no body swaping going on and anyone who buys into it is more lost than they think! Its going to take all of the energy you have and perhaps a thousand or more lifetimes to come into tune with your own frequency...to know yourself! Effectively this is what you would have to do, with another person, for body swapping to be possible. well, thats my two cents, jean galliano ###### From: rgross6162@aol.com (RGross6162) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: RE:Body Swap??/ NADA!! Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:47:06 GMT References: <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990926104706.23589.00002668@ng-fp1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newspump.sol.net!news.execpc.com!newspeer.sol.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi. All I can say is BRAVO!!!! You are so right. Get to know thyself!! That's what our teacher Mora keeps telling us in the monthly chat letters we get from him. Mora has been with me all of my life, guiding me, and I trust everything he says. The key to everything he says, is love and knowing thyself. You're right on! Jerry ###### From: gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Body Swap??/ NADA Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Oct 1999 02:08:25 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991001220825.23554.00000633@ng-cj1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!peerfeed.news.psi.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail leathergirl writes: >Well I have been in my husbands body when he kleft I went in and hime in me well quite an experience..bye for now leathergirl, I would be very interested in hearing details of your experience, if you wouldnt mind sharing... I could be persuaded into believing that this could happen between soulmates, because soulmates may share the same vibratory frequencies at subliminal levels. It is said that we were created in pairs... im open to this possibility... let us know, jean galliano ###### Message-ID: <37F57D15.A8112A57@Home.com> From: heaven eye Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Body Swap??/ NADA References: <19991001220825.23554.00000633@ng-cj1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 03:25:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.226.43.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 938834709 24.226.43.9 (Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:25:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:25:09 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!skynet.be!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!feeder.via.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail GALLIANOJ wrote: > > leathergirl writes: > >Well I have been in my husbands body when he kleft > I went in and hime in me well quite an experience..bye for now > > leathergirl, > I would be very interested in hearing details of your experience, if you > wouldnt mind sharing... > I could be persuaded into believing that this could happen between soulmates, > because soulmates may share the same vibratory frequencies at subliminal > levels. It is said that we were created in pairs... im open to this > possibility... > let us know, > jean galliano > (No criticism intended: I assume kleft is a typo; cleft in English means splitting or adherence, depending on context) Why does it have to be restricted to soulmates? Any two people who are "close" can have a connection which goes beyond normal experience. IMO it boils down to the intensity of concentration one has about the other. If each one has intensity, then the connection happens more easily; however, it can happen between more than two individuals during a lifetime. It is not limited to only "one other". I think the vibrational frequency you mention can be found by many people, not just your soul mate. Further to the point, can anybody give me a definition of soul mate, as opposed to soul friend (anam cara)? Peace of mind always, TienYen ###### From: leathergirl@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: RE:Body Swap??/ NADA!! Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 23:20:22 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 65 Message-ID: <7t3fja$nt6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.246.79.75 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Oct 01 23:13:19 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x35.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 192.246.79.75 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newspeer.te.net!news.indigo.ie!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail In article <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com>, gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) wrote: > Ive been reading some of this "poo-poo" about being able to swap bodies!! > I do have something to say on this subject. > Since we are in the woods yet about OBE and do not have many of the facts > establlished i do want you all to know that many people will come out of the > woodwork with outrageous claims and fast fixes for using OB to their fiendish > ends! But listen up, there is one thing i do know about experiencing OBE and > that is that You Are Experiening YourSelf at another LEVEL of consciousness. > AND each of ourselves is as individual in tone and fequency as are our faces > and fingerprints. No one else could ever have your exact fiingerprints no > matter if 100 Billion people existed and not even an identical twin! > I have traveled OB for many many years and i have a variety of experience > to draw upon. I have been in the presence of angelic and demonic beings alike > and i have had to perform Exorcisims at least twice on my own spirit... But no > one can get into you without your agreement. You are the Master of Your > domain, which is your consciousness, at any level...and you are the final say > in whomever or whatever exists with you, in your aura, spirit or body. No one > can Become you > or assume you exact frequency. > There may be cases where one could project a part of their consciousness > into another person for healing or other remedial purposes but to assume that > the entire frequency, the song of your whole being could be heard and resonated > with > completely and for long enough to affect such a SWAP is just Science Fiction. > There is no body swaping going on and anyone who buys into it is more lost than > they think! > Its going to take all of the energy you have and perhaps a thousand or more > lifetimes to come into tune with your own frequency...to know yourself! > Effectively this is what you would have to do, with another person, for body > swapping to be possible. > well, thats my two cents, > jean galliano > Well I have been in my husbands body when he kleft I went in and hime in me well quite an experience ..bye for now Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. ###### From: John Fitzsimons Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Body Swap??/ NADA Message-ID: <5Kn2NzXlcpbfKaKyr2LilQJWAK+h@4ax.com> References: <19991001220825.23554.00000633@ng-cj1.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.524 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:01:02 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.22.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 938916059 203.87.22.122 (Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:59 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:59 EST Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!uunet!ams.uu.net!grolier!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!not-for-mail On 02 Oct 1999 02:08:25 GMT, gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) wrote: >leathergirl writes: >>Well I have been in my husbands body when he kleft >I went in and hime in me well quite an experience..bye for now >leathergirl, > I would be very interested in hearing details of your experience, if you >wouldnt mind sharing... > I could be persuaded into believing that this could happen between soulmates, >because soulmates may share the same vibratory frequencies at subliminal >levels. It is said that we were created in pairs... im open to this >possibility... For someone to enter another person's physical body it does NOT require that the two people have any similarities at all. Most well trained mediums can have a large range of different people enter them. That also includes people who aren't "native" to this planet. I would think that that would be a reasonably good example of a "different vibration" ! :-) Regards, John. -- **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: John Fitzsimons Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Body Swap??/ NADA!! Message-ID: References: <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.524 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:01:00 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.22.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 938916056 203.87.22.122 (Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:56 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:56 EST Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!not-for-mail On 25 Sep 1999 18:20:23 GMT, gallianoj@aol.com (GALLIANOJ) wrote: < snip > > I have traveled OB for many many years and i have a variety of experience >to draw upon. I have been in the presence of angelic and demonic beings alike >and i have had to perform Exorcisims at least twice on my own spirit... But no >one can get into you without your agreement. < snip > In the case of full possession one doesn't get "into you". They get inside one's physical container. Whether that happens to people depends on the degree of protection that they have on psychic levels and the degree of strength/skill of the person wishing to possess someone. Regards, John. -- **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: John Fitzsimons Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Body Swap??/ NADA!! Message-ID: References: <19990925142023.28514.00001230@ng-ca1.aol.com> <7t3fja$nt6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.524 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:01:01 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.22.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 938916058 203.87.22.122 (Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:58 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:00:58 EST Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!isdnet!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!not-for-mail On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 23:20:22 GMT, leathergirl@my-deja.com wrote: < snip > >Well I have been in my husbands body when he kleft >I went in and hime in me well quite an experience >..bye for now Yes, it certainly can be. If you are normally a medium for discarnate people to use your physical body did you notice the slightly different feelings you got when having someone in who still had a physical body of their own ? The differences can be subtle but one does well to notice them. If you were ever a medium for "spirit rescue" it could be a bit of a boo boo to tell some spirit who came in who was physical that they were dead ! Oops. :-) Regards, John. -- **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/