From: "Vmb1" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Can your soul die? Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:15:12 PDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts004d06.sag-mi.concentric.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) For an example, two sworn enemies agree to have OBEs at the same relative time, then they search for each other. Can one kill the other? ###### From: geddiea95@aol.com (G EddieA95) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 17 Sep 1999 22:03:58 GMT References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990917180358.01538.00001388@ng-fl1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail > Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) The Human Body is no protection from soul-death. The soul has its own soul body. However, souls cannot "kill each other." The soul can only be killed by God Himself. ###### From: golium139@aol.comnospam (Czar Gollum) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:42:33 GMT References: <37E2C6F0.301197FD@ihug.co.nz> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990917194233.01465.00001432@ng-cq1.aol.com> Lines: 17 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >If you are meaning soul in the traditional, most common sense of the >word, I highly disagree with you. I don't know if God could kill >someone, but he never has, or would, not someones spirit, it can't die >IMO. Though if you are meaning soul as a container for the spirit, then >it's different. I wonder, though, if a soul can eventually commite "suicide". Eternal existance is bound to get boring eventually. I'm not suicidal or anything, but I'd much rather choose oblivion over existing forever with no way out. Just my opinion though. --- "A handless man had a letter to write, He who read it had lost his sight. The dumb repeated it word for word, And deaf was the man who listened and heard." ~Gollum ###### From: Lan Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Organization: collection60@hotmail.kom References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0b11 (PPC) X-Face: ('6#W3M0VcTo"48.W9C'HH[]}D;ZATZ;(K~h4&sqcUp(NpxUQKztt93LZ(hMQ fp[:%MK!c2S<7'Ix>7fum|@@+m;v]O}!`+Rg@pmO,1K@=D\|:tUx.1f}#!Jb>$v4!3B7 5y}=X\oO+7!v/`>7$0-n4I>9[D;$BlY)$hw#Yg|f&DLl"r-%v9Hi(-a&$CrP1/*V|6m] ?y"O*bT`sw@nd<_L!l2e>*95Q>&/A6B-)AW-#g/saJ|t/arNjaLt.0di4Fl Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:17:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.60.63 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 937613885 16942 194.112.32.19 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!colt.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail In article <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net>, "Vmb1" wrote: >Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) >For an example, two sworn enemies agree to have OBEs at the same >relative time, then they search for each other. Can one kill the other? Probably, but not from two sworn enemies only. And if it did happen, you wouldnt know it. By definition really. -- My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 |)>Sigh<(| ###### From: "desi" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:11:36 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 18 Message-ID: <7rvdu8$ejo$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net> References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.8a.30.ac X-Server-Date: 18 Sep 1999 07:11:04 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.pop.de!newsfeed.tli.de!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail Well there are supposed to be soulless people walking around, but mostly considered self-inflicted in some way- like a suicide, rejection, or total denial of anything over unevolved consciousness leaving just an "empty shell" a codex....But there is a question of whether the soul ( or higher self oversoul whatever) has died, or simply left the building...sorta mutual rejection. There are theological, psychological, and folk myth stories of souls being captured, stolen, or contained. Descriptions range from something like birth of an over-riding obsession (possession), to a kind of amnesia or 'forgetting of self'.The prescription against this to me seems to be "know yourself" in a kind of physic self-confidence and strength of mind. As a precaution or just in case, any time someone feels 'vulnerable or weakened', low on the psychic energy meter it is a good idea not to "go out". Stay in and recoup/recover your self.... ###### From: John Fitzsimons Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Message-ID: References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.524 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:36:10 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.22.146 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 937614889 203.87.22.146 (Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:34:49 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:34:49 EST Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!not-for-mail On 17 Sep 1999 14:15:12 PDT, "Vmb1" wrote: >Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) No. >For an example, two sworn enemies agree to have OBEs at the same >relative time, then they search for each other. Can one kill the other? Only in the sense that one/both of the physical bodies could die. Most people don't have enough knowledge/skill to kill others through psychic approaches. People who are well versed in magic, spells, curses etc. can affect damage, if not death, on their targets though. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: Dean Bromley Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:55:44 +1200 Organization: For the most incredible music ever, get the album Don't Turn Away by Face To Face. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <37E2C6F0.301197FD@ihug.co.nz> References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <19990917180358.01538.00001388@ng-fl1.aol.com> Reply-To: dean-b@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Host: p608.nzwide.ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail G EddieA95 wrote: > > > Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) > > The Human Body is no protection from soul-death. The soul has its own soul > body. > > However, souls cannot "kill each other." The soul can only be killed by God > Himself. If you are meaning soul in the traditional, most common sense of the word, I highly disagree with you. I don't know if God could kill someone, but he never has, or would, not someones spirit, it can't die IMO. Though if you are meaning soul as a container for the spirit, then it's different. ###### From: Dean Bromley Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:49:24 +1200 Organization: For the most incredible music ever, get the album Don't Turn Away by Face To Face. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <37E2D381.685FF5B2@ihug.co.nz> References: <37E2C6F0.301197FD@ihug.co.nz> <19990917194233.01465.00001432@ng-cq1.aol.com> Reply-To: dean-b@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Host: p580.nzwide.ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Czar Gollum wrote: > > >If you are meaning soul in the traditional, most common sense of the > >word, I highly disagree with you. I don't know if God could kill > >someone, but he never has, or would, not someones spirit, it can't die > >IMO. Though if you are meaning soul as a container for the spirit, then > >it's different. > > I wonder, though, if a soul can eventually commite "suicide". Eternal existance > is bound to get boring eventually. I'm not suicidal or anything, but I'd much > rather choose oblivion over existing forever with no way out. Just my opinion > though. IMO your "oblivion" is an impossibility. IMO probably one of the biggest, and few impossibilities there is. Also, I think there is an eternal lifetime worth of stuff to learn and experience, it's infinite IMO. Ha, 3 IMOs, 4 now, I use them so as not to sound arrogant. ###### From: Lan Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Organization: collection60@hotmail.kom References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0b11 (PPC) X-Face: ('6#W3M0VcTo"48.W9C'HH[]}D;ZATZ;(K~h4&sqcUp(NpxUQKztt93LZ(hMQ fp[:%MK!c2S<7'Ix>7fum|@@+m;v]O}!`+Rg@pmO,1K@=D\|:tUx.1f}#!Jb>$v4!3B7 5y}=X\oO+7!v/`>7$0-n4I>9[D;$BlY)$hw#Yg|f&DLl"r-%v9Hi(-a&$CrP1/*V|6m] ?y"O*bT`sw@nd<_L!l2e>*95Q>&/A6B-)AW-#g/saJ|t/arNjaLt.0di4Fl Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:32:24 +0100 Message-ID: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.63.202 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 937693985 16942 194.112.32.19 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!newsfeed.cineca.it!newsfeed.nettuno.it!bignews.mediaways.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!iol.ie!easynet-uk!easynet.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail In article , John Fitzsimons wrote: >>Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) > >No. I think you'll find you are wrong. But i very much doubt that it could be done by 1 single other. A whole group of others quite possibly tho, if all exits were taken away, and more things like that. In the astral plane or other planes you can teleport wherever you like. That makes it very hard to get hurt. I still think its possible and also has happened in the past tho. -- My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 |)>Sigh<(| ###### From: pirmoser@pcug.org.au (The SnowBaron) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:13:08 GMT Organization: I am very organised, thankyou Reply-To: pirmoser@pcug.org.au References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts78.pcug.org.au Message-ID: <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> Lines: 30 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.can.connect.com.au!news.interact.net.au!newshost.pcug.org.au!ts78.pcug.org.au "Vmb1" wrote: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hi Dean and NG; You must be reading a lot of science fiction stuff and travel in the lower planes. At all the planes I have travelled on, only delightful peace and tranquillity existed. As said here in other postings before; Soul can never be killed and it does not die, it is reincarnated at the time or sometimes many years after its physical body has died . God will not kill Soul as he/she has initally created Soul to his/her liking. Therefore it stands to reason that God loves all Souls. Soul is by nature a peaceful being and not agressive, it is influenced and controlled by the mind while still in the physical body . Agression has its origin in the mind (brain) of the human body, that is why we are here on this physical plane to begin our development. Soul can alter its body to make it suitable for coping with the different vibrations and conditions of the various planes of existence. That is the reason why Souls are seen in different colours or hues. Auras are something different entirely. Hope this helps. Baraka Bashad, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Peace. Frank ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) >For an example, two sworn enemies agree to have OBEs at the same >relative time, then they search for each other. Can one kill the other? ###### From: John Fitzsimons Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Message-ID: References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <7rvdu8$ejo$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.524 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:05:26 +1000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.22.157 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telstra.net X-Trace: nsw.nnrp.telstra.net 937703044 203.87.22.157 (Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:04:04 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:04:04 EST Organization: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!carrier1.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!btnet-peer!btnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nnrp.telstra.net!not-for-mail On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:11:36 -0500, "desi" wrote: >Well there are supposed to be soulless people walking around, >but mostly considered self-inflicted in some way- like a >suicide, rejection, or total denial of anything over unevolved >consciousness leaving just an "empty shell" a codex....But IF you mean physical people then yes, one can move around with one's astral body regularly partly/wholly "out of it". In more ways than one. >there is a question of whether the soul ( or higher self >oversoul whatever) has died, or simply left the >building...sorta mutual rejection. The higher self is that, "higher". It is still objectively aware of what the physical body, and astral body, are up to. >There are theological, psychological, and folk myth stories of >souls being captured, stolen, or contained. True, such things as astral kidnapping/restraint occurs. >Descriptions >range from something like birth of an over-riding obsession >(possession), to a kind of amnesia or 'forgetting of self'.The >prescription against this to me seems to be "know yourself" in >a kind of physic self-confidence and strength of mind. Yes, positive thinking creates a positive energy. Thereby making any form of "control" by others more difficult. >As a >precaution or just in case, any time someone feels 'vulnerable >or weakened', low on the psychic energy meter it is a good >idea not to "go out". Stay in and recoup/recover your self.... Yes, sometimes going OOB is unwise. It is also a good idea to setup psychic protection first. This means that one will not use up one's energy reserves as quickly. Regards, John. -- **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: Dean Bromley Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 16:00:01 +1200 Organization: For the most incredible music ever, get the album Don't Turn Away by Face To Face. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <37E45FB5.723072F9@ihug.co.nz> References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> Reply-To: dean-b@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Host: p589.nzwide.ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cyclone.pbi.net!203.29.160.5!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail The SnowBaron wrote: > > "Vmb1" wrote: > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > Hi Dean and NG; Do you personally know that person, and are they called Dean, or are you getting them confused with my name? > You must be reading a lot of science fiction stuff and travel in the lower planes. At all the planes > I have travelled on, only delightful peace and tranquillity existed. > > As said here in other postings before; Soul can never be killed and it does not die, it is > reincarnated at the time or sometimes many years after its physical body has died . God will not > kill Soul as he/she has initally created Soul to his/her liking. Therefore it stands to reason that > God loves all Souls. Soul is by nature a peaceful being and not agressive, it is influenced and > controlled by the mind while still in the physical body . Agression has its origin in the mind > (brain) of the human body, that is why we are here on this physical plane to begin our development. > > Soul can alter its body to make it suitable for coping with the different vibrations and conditions > of the various planes of existence. That is the reason why Souls are seen in different colours or > hues. Auras are something different entirely. > > Hope this helps. Baraka Bashad, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Peace. > > Frank > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > > >Hello. Can our souls get "killed" if we are out of our containers (bodies?) > >For an example, two sworn enemies agree to have OBEs at the same > >relative time, then they search for each other. Can one kill the other? ###### From: Lan Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Organization: collection60@hotmail.kom References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0b11 (PPC) X-Face: ('6#W3M0VcTo"48.W9C'HH[]}D;ZATZ;(K~h4&sqcUp(NpxUQKztt93LZ(hMQ fp[:%MK!c2S<7'Ix>7fum|@@+m;v]O}!`+Rg@pmO,1K@=D\|:tUx.1f}#!Jb>$v4!3B7 5y}=X\oO+7!v/`>7$0-n4I>9[D;$BlY)$hw#Yg|f&DLl"r-%v9Hi(-a&$CrP1/*V|6m] ?y"O*bT`sw@nd<_L!l2e>*95Q>&/A6B-)AW-#g/saJ|t/arNjaLt.0di4Fl Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:42:59 +0100 Message-ID: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.60.38 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 937791852 16942 194.112.32.19 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!newspeer1.nac.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail In article <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au>, pirmoser@pcug.org.au wrote: >"Vmb1" wrote: >,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >Hi Dean and NG; > >You must be reading a lot of science fiction stuff and travel in the lower planes. At all the planes >I have travelled on, only delightful peace and tranquillity existed. > >As said here in other postings before; Soul can never be killed and it does not die, it is >reincarnated at the time or sometimes many years after its physical body has died . God will not >kill Soul as he/she has initally created Soul to his/her liking. Therefore it stands to reason that >God loves all Souls. Soul is by nature a peaceful being and not agressive, it is influenced and >controlled by the mind while still in the physical body . Agression has its origin in the mind >(brain) of the human body, that is why we are here on this physical plane to begin our development. > >Soul can alter its body to make it suitable for coping with the different vibrations and conditions >of the various planes of existence. That is the reason why Souls are seen in different colours or >hues. Auras are something different entirely. > >Hope this helps. Baraka Bashad, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Peace. Thats absolute nonsense. You are saying evil comes from the physical, and all spiritual is good? Well, not quite. there are evil things in the spiritual and pure good things in the physical. If you think the sould is by nature a peaceful being then you are either stupid or havent met many people yet. -- My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 |)>Sigh<(| ###### From: pirmoser@pcug.org.au (The SnowBaron) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:41:36 GMT Organization: I am very organised, thankyou Reply-To: pirmoser@pcug.org.au References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 NNTP-Posting-Host: ts77.pcug.org.au Message-ID: <37e6b849.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!nsw.nntp.telstra.net!203.24.245.65.MISMATCH!news.interact.net.au!newshost.pcug.org.au!ts77.pcug.org.au snips >>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >Hi; >>You must be reading a lot of science fiction stuff and travel in the lower planes. At all the planes >>I have travelled on, only delightful peace and tranquillity existed. >> >>As said here in other postings before; Soul can never be killed and it does not die, it is >>reincarnated at the time or sometimes many years after its physical body has died . God will not >>kill Soul as he/she has initally created Soul to his/her liking. Therefore it stands to reason that >>God loves all Souls. Soul is by nature a peaceful being and not agressive, it is influenced and >>controlled by the mind while still in the physical body . Agression has its origin in the mind >>(brain) of the human body, that is why we are here on this physical plane to begin our development. >> >>Soul can alter its body to make it suitable for coping with the different vibrations and conditions >>of the various planes of existence. That is the reason why Souls are seen in different colours or >>hues. Auras are something different entirely. >> >>Hope this helps. Baraka Bashad, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Peace. snips ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hi Lan; Thank you for your kind and enlightening words which show this NG your true level of awareness and knowledge that you are at. It also enforces my statements I made above nicely. Baraka Bashad Frank ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >If you think the sould is by nature a peaceful being then you are either stupid or havent met many >people yet. >-- >My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy >Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 >|)>Sigh<(| ###### Message-ID: <37E70550.8B6A1583@Home.com> From: heaven eye Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? References: <7rub10$bd1@chronicle.concentric.net> <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:03:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.226.43.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 937886614 24.226.43.9 (Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:03:34 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:03:34 PDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.abs.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail There is evil as there is good. To call someone stupid is not acceptable. Lan wrote: > > In article <37e454ea.0@newshost.pcug.org.au>, pirmoser@pcug.org.au wrote: > > >"Vmb1" wrote: > >,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > >Hi Dean and NG; > > > >You must be reading a lot of science fiction stuff and travel in the lower planes. At all the planes > >I have travelled on, only delightful peace and tranquillity existed. > > > >As said here in other postings before; Soul can never be killed and it does not die, it is > >reincarnated at the time or sometimes many years after its physical body has died . God will not > >kill Soul as he/she has initally created Soul to his/her liking. Therefore it stands to reason that > >God loves all Souls. Soul is by nature a peaceful being and not agressive, it is influenced and > >controlled by the mind while still in the physical body . Agression has its origin in the mind > >(brain) of the human body, that is why we are here on this physical plane to begin our development. > > > >Soul can alter its body to make it suitable for coping with the different vibrations and conditions > >of the various planes of existence. That is the reason why Souls are seen in different colours or > >hues. Auras are something different entirely. > > > >Hope this helps. Baraka Bashad, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Peace. > > Thats absolute nonsense. You are saying evil comes from the physical, and all spiritual is good? > > Well, not quite. there are evil things in the spiritual and pure good things in the physical. > If you think the sould is by nature a peaceful being then you are either stupid or havent met many > people yet. > > -- > My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy > Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 > > |)>Sigh<(| ###### From: rowland2110@aol.com (Rowland2110) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Can your soul die? Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Sep 1999 08:34:12 GMT References: <19990917194233.01465.00001432@ng-cq1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990928043412.28515.00002313@ng-ca1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!oleane!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail interesting statement on soul suicide, however, in conversations with God, by Neal Donald walsh, "God" says that when we reach the state of all-knowledge, that usually we choose to forget everything and start all over, i find it interesting.