From: Clairity@webtv.net (Clairity) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: My Astral Healing (long post) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:44:35 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 58 Message-ID: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRcrdPT27ieUE9+ALB7ovTf7RBSQwIVAIrGnxUE8dPO4RUp0wTZ+iXqF0cP Content-Disposition: Inline Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news.ip-plus.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!uunet!ams.uu.net!nyc.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail Hi all! I had an interesting experience Sunday morning that I thought I'd share with you. As some of you might remember I had a second surgery on my abdomen in Feb. All seemed to be healing well (i.e., no pain) until a little over a week ago when I started experiencing *extreme* tenderness beneath my surgical scar.. almost as if I had been cut inside... or had pulled or torn the internal stitches beneath the scar. I decided that the next time I got out.. I would try to do a "healing" on myself. I had a semi-lucid dream Sat. and, though I wasn't very lucid, I placed my hands on my astral abdomen and "thought" heal. The next morning I felt my adbomen and was not surprised to find it still very tender. Since I REFUSE to have another surgery.. I decided to try again. Sun. morning I was sleeping fitfully when I realized that a geometric pattern had formed before my eyes. I concentrated on one of the squares and found myself being drawn into it. I realized that I was dreaming and I decided to go OOB. I closed my astral eyes and when I opened them, I separated from my body and I crawled out of my bed. I thought "I need to heal myself" and I immediately found myself in an operating room. There were about 5 surgeons surrounding an operating table. When I went to the table, the surgeons vanished and I saw that "I" was laying naked on the table. I climbed on the table and looked at myself. My eyes were open and I saw fear (which surprised me) and I felt my astral self laughing with joy (which also surprised me). I placed both my astral hands on the abdomen of the me laying on the table. I then sent two lightning bolts of healing energy into my abdomen while saying the word "HEAL" (it reminded me of those paddles that they use to resuscitate people whose hearts have stopped). I "hit" myself twice and the me on the table cried out in pain (or shock) and the experience ended. When I "woke up" in my physical body, I decided to just record the experience and go to sleep (this was around 2:15am). I woke up to start the day around 10am. I went into the bathroom and tenderly touched my abdomen... there was no pain.. I pressed harder and felt only a slight twinge! I was afraid to believe it.. so I decided to give it 24 hours. Well 24 hours have passed and the slight twinge of pain that I felt when I pressed my abdomen is even less! I have now decided that I will continue my self healings whenever I can. All I can say is that, whether you believe or not, there are things greater than ourselves and the mind has power that we have yet to tap into. Just thought I'd share.. Clairity ###### Message-ID: <37534242.69BE6AD2@privatei.com> From: The Original Ken Reply-To: sculpt@privatei.com Organization: fractal in nature X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 65 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:15:30 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.203.136.192 X-Trace: wormhole.dimensional.com 928203447 208.203.136.192 (Mon, 31 May 1999 20:17:27 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:17:27 MDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!209.98.98.64.MISMATCH!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!pulsar.dimensional.com!dimensional.com!wormhole.dimensional.com!not-for-mail That was a remarkable experience Clairity. Thank you so much for sharing it! It's been some time since I've had an OBE, but for my next journey, along with looking for the light as Bart suggested to achive a higher plane experience, I am also inclined to try and imitate your healing experience as well. Looks like I'll have a busy schedule on my next trip. Ken Clairity wrote: > Hi all! I had an interesting experience Sunday morning that I thought > I'd share with you. As some of you might remember I had a second > surgery on my abdomen in Feb. All seemed to be healing well (i.e., no > pain) until a little over a week ago when I started experiencing > *extreme* tenderness beneath my surgical scar.. almost as if I had been > cut inside... or had pulled or torn the internal stitches beneath the > scar. > > I decided that the next time I got out.. I would try to do a "healing" > on myself. I had a semi-lucid dream Sat. and, though I wasn't very > lucid, I placed my hands on my astral abdomen and "thought" heal. The > next morning I felt my adbomen and was not surprised to find it still > very tender. > > Since I REFUSE to have another surgery.. I decided to try again. Sun. > morning I was sleeping fitfully when I realized that a geometric pattern > had formed before my eyes. I concentrated on one of the squares and > found myself being drawn into it. I realized that I was dreaming and I > decided to go OOB. I closed my astral eyes and when I opened them, I > separated from my body and I crawled out of my bed. > > I thought "I need to heal myself" and I immediately found myself in an > operating room. There were about 5 surgeons surrounding an operating > table. When I went to the table, the surgeons vanished and I saw that > "I" was laying naked on the table. > > I climbed on the table and looked at myself. My eyes were open and I > saw fear (which surprised me) and I felt my astral self laughing with > joy (which also surprised me). I placed both my astral hands on the > abdomen of the me laying on the table. I then sent two lightning bolts > of healing energy into my abdomen while saying the word "HEAL" (it > reminded me of those paddles that they use to resuscitate people whose > hearts have stopped). I "hit" myself twice and the me on the table > cried out in pain (or shock) and the experience ended. > > When I "woke up" in my physical body, I decided to just record the > experience and go to sleep (this was around 2:15am). > > I woke up to start the day around 10am. I went into the bathroom and > tenderly touched my abdomen... there was no pain.. I pressed harder and > felt only a slight twinge! I was afraid to believe it.. so I decided to > give it 24 hours. Well 24 hours have passed and the slight twinge of > pain that I felt when I pressed my abdomen is even less! > > I have now decided that I will continue my self healings whenever I can. > All I can say is that, whether you believe or not, there are things > greater than ourselves and the mind has power that we have yet to tap > into. > > Just thought I'd share.. > > Clairity ###### From: spicyjem@aol.comSpicyJem (Spicy Jem) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) Lines: 86 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 1 Jun 1999 06:08:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: <19990601020830.12501.00009012@ng-cd1.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi there Clairity! It was great to hear this post from you. Many people think that OBE's are just an excuse to fly around and have a good time, but your post is a perfect example of how OBE's can be used for very good reasons. I know that you had that surgery in February, and I am glad that you had two positive experiences: 1. You had a successful OBE 2. You healed yourself Your post was an encouragement for me, not only to have more OBE's, but to be productive and help others. Sometimes I wonder why my desire to OBE is so strong. I mean, sure, it is fun to explore and gain a better spiritual understanding. But after that, then what? I think that I am here to help others progress along....perhaps to help souls who are lost, need healing, etc. Of course, I am still learning as I go, but this is what I feel inside. You are very special Clairity, and I am glad to see your post! Keep smiling! >Hi all! I had an interesting experience Sunday morning that I thought >I'd share with you. As some of you might remember I had a second >surgery on my abdomen in Feb. All seemed to be healing well (i.e., no >pain) until a little over a week ago when I started experiencing >*extreme* tenderness beneath my surgical scar.. almost as if I had been >cut inside... or had pulled or torn the internal stitches beneath the >scar. > >I decided that the next time I got out.. I would try to do a "healing" >on myself. I had a semi-lucid dream Sat. and, though I wasn't very >lucid, I placed my hands on my astral abdomen and "thought" heal. The >next morning I felt my adbomen and was not surprised to find it still >very tender. > >Since I REFUSE to have another surgery.. I decided to try again. Sun. >morning I was sleeping fitfully when I realized that a geometric pattern >had formed before my eyes. I concentrated on one of the squares and >found myself being drawn into it. I realized that I was dreaming and I >decided to go OOB. I closed my astral eyes and when I opened them, I >separated from my body and I crawled out of my bed. > >I thought "I need to heal myself" and I immediately found myself in an >operating room. There were about 5 surgeons surrounding an operating >table. When I went to the table, the surgeons vanished and I saw that >"I" was laying naked on the table. > >I climbed on the table and looked at myself. My eyes were open and I >saw fear (which surprised me) and I felt my astral self laughing with >joy (which also surprised me). I placed both my astral hands on the >abdomen of the me laying on the table. I then sent two lightning bolts >of healing energy into my abdomen while saying the word "HEAL" (it >reminded me of those paddles that they use to resuscitate people whose >hearts have stopped). I "hit" myself twice and the me on the table >cried out in pain (or shock) and the experience ended. > >When I "woke up" in my physical body, I decided to just record the >experience and go to sleep (this was around 2:15am). > >I woke up to start the day around 10am. I went into the bathroom and >tenderly touched my abdomen... there was no pain.. I pressed harder and >felt only a slight twinge! I was afraid to believe it.. so I decided to >give it 24 hours. Well 24 hours have passed and the slight twinge of >pain that I felt when I pressed my abdomen is even less! > >I have now decided that I will continue my self healings whenever I can. >All I can say is that, whether you believe or not, there are things >greater than ourselves and the mind has power that we have yet to tap >into. > >Just thought I'd share.. <3 Jeff Mash <3 To email me, remove the "JokeMail" in the address. Need a laugh? Go to http://www.vertigy.com/jokemail "There's nothing to fear except fear itself...Oh...plus rejection and physical harm!" ###### NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10003900.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <1999060109072875767@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:07:28 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body From: J L Williams X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 1.20c 10003900 Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Lines: 72 X-Trace: news.zetnet.co.uk 928242954 25918 194.247.47.23 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!easynet-tele!easynet.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!master.news.zetnet.net!not-for-mail The message <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> from Clairity@webtv.net (Clairity) contains these words: Hello Clairity, nice to hear you're well again :) snip> > I decided that the next time I got out.. I would try to do a "healing" > on myself. Yes, it is important to make this decision well before hand to avoid being distracted by flying or similar:) Snip> > Since I REFUSE to have another surgery.. Mmmmm, I hope this is wisdom talking....but I know how you feel... > I decided to try again. Good for you ;-) > Sun. > morning I was sleeping fitfully when I realized that a geometric pattern > had formed before my eyes. I concentrated on one of the squares and > found myself being drawn into it. I realized that I was dreaming and I > decided to go OOB. I closed my astral eyes and when I opened them, I > separated from my body and I crawled out of my bed. > I thought "I need to heal myself" and I immediately found myself in an > operating room. There were about 5 surgeons surrounding an operating > table. When I went to the table, the surgeons vanished and I saw that > "I" was laying naked on the table. > I climbed on the table and looked at myself. My eyes were open and I > saw fear (which surprised me) and I felt my astral self laughing with > joy (which also surprised me). I placed both my astral hands on the > abdomen of the me laying on the table. I then sent two lightning bolts > of healing energy into my abdomen while saying the word "HEAL" (it > reminded me of those paddles that they use to resuscitate people whose > hearts have stopped). I "hit" myself twice and the me on the table > cried out in pain (or shock) and the experience ended. > When I "woke up" in my physical body, I decided to just record the > experience and go to sleep (this was around 2:15am). > I woke up to start the day around 10am. I went into the bathroom and > tenderly touched my abdomen... there was no pain.. I pressed harder and > felt only a slight twinge! I was afraid to believe it.. so I decided to > give it 24 hours. Well 24 hours have passed and the slight twinge of > pain that I felt when I pressed my abdomen is even less! Really great news, I hope it stays that way. > I have now decided that I will continue my self healings whenever I can. > All I can say is that, whether you believe or not, there are things > greater than ourselves and the mind has power that we have yet to tap > into. Yes, as I have also proved......well done! Although I personally wouldn't give the mind all the credit ;-) I'm sure there was a greater power than my mind at work when this happened to me ;-) > Just thought I'd share.. Thanks for sharing, I love reading posts like this :-) > Clairity Regards Jim Watch and pray, time hastes away! ###### From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 23:30:24 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <19990601020830.12501.00009012@ng-cd1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bilby25.melbpc.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.507 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news2.melbpc.org.au!not-for-mail On 1 Jun 1999 06:08:30 GMT, spicyjem@aol.comSpicyJem (Spicy Jem) wrote: Hi Jeff, < snip > >I think that I am here to help others progress along....perhaps to help >souls who are lost, need healing, etc. Of course, I am still learning as I >go, but this is what I feel inside. < snip > There are many ways to heal/help people while OOB. It could be kept in mind however that IF one's intention is to help people while OOB then it will happen. Irrespective of whether one has any "conscious" memory of doing so or not. You can also keep in mind that your spirit guides will generally know more about healing, soul rescues, etc. than you currently do. That is why it is a good idea to get help, and training, from them in these matters. You can also do a lot of healing while inside your body. Watch the news for ideas of who needs healing. Prayer can be done awake or asleep. If you cannot get the latest "news" then think of people at your local hospital/mental establishment. You can also help people in the mental sense. Not just on physical levels. People alive and people dead. For example one can direct love/light/healing to the physical, and non physical people, who comprise the Serbian, and NATO, leadership for example. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: "Mary" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:38:01 +0100 Organization: Virgin News Service Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7j9bcc$14p$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.168.66.170 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.fast.net!uunet!ffx.uu.net!in5.uu.net!news1-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!news7-gui.server.ntli.net!news-feed.ntli.net!not-for-mail Very nice post, Clairity. Something similar happened to me a few days ago. I'm not that good at OOB'ing, and i'm still not sure if this was a dream, but i was lying on my left side, and most of my body was vibrating, i rolled out. Next thing i know, i'm in my parent's room (i'm 18, still at home), they're lying on top of the bed, like they're having an afternoon nap or something, they can't see me though. I held my hands over my mother's abdomen (she had a battle with ovarian cancer a few years ago) and she was telling my father that she could feel heat in that area, i could feel it streaming from my hands too. Then i went round to my father (he's also had cancer, bowel cancer), and held my hands over him, but ran them up and down his body, above it, and then he said he could feel it too. The thing is, i live in the UK, and they're on holiday in Australia at the moment. So i wonder if it's just a dream or what. But it's always something i think about, if i get out, one thing i'd like to do is go and heal them, my mother has a lot of internal scar tissue, my father isn't as bad, but i'd love to help the healing process along if i could. I'm going to ask them if they feel any different when they get back this weekend. --Mary. ###### From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: My Astral Healing (long post) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:59:24 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <19561-37532CF3-104@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <7j9bcc$14p$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: b3-47.melbpc.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.6/32.507 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news2.melbpc.org.au!not-for-mail On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:38:01 +0100, "Mary" wrote: < snip > Hi Mary, >I held my hands over my mother's >abdomen (she had a battle with ovarian cancer a few years ago) and she was >telling my father that she could feel heat in that area, i could feel it >streaming from my hands too. < snip > A couple of things that you might consider : (A) If you do this sort of thing non-physically then you could almost certainly do it in (physical) person. (B) Your mother's spirit guides could also give her healing. (C) If your mother (like most patients) asked her spirit guides for the reasons for her health problems, and how to reverse them, then her healing would almost certainly be even more effective/long lasting. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/