From: miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: what dreams may come Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 15 Mar 1999 02:57:36 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if thats what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys =) ###### From: smackudown@nac.net Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Message-ID: <36ec8fa1.236084463@news.nac.net> References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 18 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 04:45:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.99.2.91 X-Complaints-To: news@nac.net X-Trace: nntp1.nac.net 921473559 207.99.2.91 (Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:52:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:52:39 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!nntp1.nac.net!not-for-mail On 15 Mar 1999 02:57:36 GMT, miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) wrote: >Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if thats >what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys >=) HAHAHA.. That's funny, because I JUST finished watching that movie 2 minutes ago (literally!). I think I agree with what the book Conversations With God book 3 said... That movie presents really good information about what happens when we die... but that information was passed through a very bad filter. I must say, I was pretty disappointed with the movie as a whole. Anyway, I'm curious now too. I'm still in the studying stage I guess.. mostly because I'm not sure where to begin to start moving closer to having OBE's. Jason http://www.sevenmagicwords.com ( do you want women to pick YOU UP! ) ###### From: J L Williams Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:29:13 GMT Message-ID: <1999031519291375767@zetnet.co.uk> References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10003900.zetnet.co.uk X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 1.20c 10003900 Lines: 16 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet!insnet.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!peer.news.zetnet.net!zetnet.co.uk!user-10003900.zetnet.co.uk!not-for-mail The message <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> from miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) contains these words: > Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if thats > what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys > =) I have heard that it is very good but have been scouring the papers to see when it might be on locally but nothing to date. Perhaps I have missed it? Regards Jim ###### From: smackudown@nac.net Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Message-ID: <36eda492.306992259@news.nac.net> References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> <1999031519291375767@zetnet.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 26 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:24:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.99.2.99 X-Complaints-To: news@nac.net X-Trace: nntp1.nac.net 921544458 207.99.2.99 (Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:34:18 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:34:18 EDT Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newspeer.monmouth.com!newspeer1.nac.net!nntp1.nac.net!not-for-mail On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:29:13 GMT, J L Williams wrote: >The message <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> > from miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) contains these words: > > >> Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if thats >> what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys >> =) > >I have heard that it is very good but have been scouring the papers >to see when it might be on locally but nothing to date. Perhaps I >have missed it? >Regards >Jim > It just came out on video on Tuesday, so it won't be on tv for a while. Check your local Blockbuster Video, they will have it. Jason http://www.sevenmagicwords.com ( do you want women to pick YOU UP! ) > > ###### From: xxx@xxx.xxx (SUNEYE) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:28:15 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> <1999031519291375767@zetnet.co.uk> <36eda492.306992259@news.nac.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 16 Mar 1999 03:30:55 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Mon Mar 15 19:35:15 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Lines: 39 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-001njnewap310.dialsprint.net Message-ID: <36f2cfc7.6183250@news.earthlink.net> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:24:39 GMT, smackudown@nac.net wrote: >On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:29:13 GMT, J L Williams > wrote: > >>The message <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> >> from miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) contains these words: >> >> >>> Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if thats >>> what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys >>> =) >> >>I have heard that it is very good but have been scouring the papers >>to see when it might be on locally but nothing to date. Perhaps I >>have missed it? >>Regards >>Jim >> > It just came out on video on Tuesday, so it won't be on tv for a >while. Check your local Blockbuster Video, they will have it. > >Jason >http://www.sevenmagicwords.com >( do you want women to pick YOU UP! ) >> >> I was wondering if the producers of that movie are were expert OBErs when creating that movie. The whole belief system (what happens when you die, what you can do in your enviroment with your mind, etc.) is the same as an OBE. The movie is to good IMO. Joe Russa (SUNEYE) suneye@earthlink.net ('Home of The SUNEYE Method') http://fly.to/suneye http://travel.to/suneye (mirror site) ###### From: clairity@webtv.net Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:13:22 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 41 Message-ID: <7cm3f7$f2o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.97.110.68 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Mar 16 17:13:22 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; U) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x16.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 32.97.110.68 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!den-news-01.qwest.net!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail In article <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com>, > miisfiit@aol.com (MIISFIIT) wrote: > Hi, has anyone saw the move, and what dreams may come? I was wondering if > thats what a real obe is like? Thanks for anyone who reads or replys =) MIISFIIT, I had written a post about this movie back in Oct. and I have reposted it below for your convenience. ;-) Hi all! Armed with a purseful of kleenex, I went to see "What Dreams May Come" and although I didn't need the kleenex (I got just a *little* misty eyed), I came away feeling very..for lack of better word...blessed. You see, while I was sitting in that dark theater with everyone else marveling at the vivid colors, the images of people flying (and more that I won't speak of for those who haven't seen the movie) it dawned on me that I didn't have to wait for *death* to experience everything that was on the screen. I have been in fields of vivid color, I have flown alone and with others, and I have even desired to see someone and have had that person appear in front of me. I went to the movie with my husband (who thinks of my experiences as my little *hobby*) and afterward I wanted so much to explain how all this is possible if you just believe that it is, that anyone with the desire can have them too. But then he smiled that smile that he saves for me whenever I speak of lucid dreaming or OOBEs and the words sounded somehow hollow or as if I were just bragging (it's hard to explain). Once again I decided that it was more than enough that *I* know these things to be true and that I could come on the web and speak to others who know them to be true also. We who lucid dream, we who have OOBEs are indeed truely blessed.. because if the movie "What Dreams May Come" is any indication of what heaven holds, we have been given the gift of experiencing *heaven on earth*. Take care... Clairity -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ###### From: glyn Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:22:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com> <7cm3f7$f2o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flyers.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: flyers.demon.co.uk:158.152.37.166 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 921619398 nnrp-11:8045 NO-IDENT flyers.demon.co.uk:158.152.37.166 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Lines: 39 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!newsfeed.ecrc.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!flyers.demon.co.uk!glyn Hello Clairity, > >I went to the movie with my husband (who thinks of my experiences as my >little *hobby*) and afterward I wanted so much to explain how all this >is possible if you just believe that it is, that anyone with the desire >can have them too. But then he smiled that smile that he saves for me >whenever I speak of lucid dreaming or OOBEs and the words sounded >somehow hollow or as if I were just bragging (it's hard to explain). I know *just* what you mean, as my husband is exactly the same:-) He never puts me down or ridicules me, and he listens.........but it's that look in his eyes. :-) >Once again I decided that it was more than enough that *I* know these >things to be true and that I could come on the web and speak to others >who know them to be true also. Yes, I don't know what I would do without the 'net'. It's done such a lot for people like us. >We who lucid dream, we who have OOBEs are indeed truely blessed.. >because if the movie "What Dreams May Come" is any indication of what >heaven holds, we have been given the gift of experiencing *heaven on >earth*. I've not seen the movie yet, but I read the book back in the 80s, and thought it was great. It was written by Richard Matheson in 1978. I wonder how close the movie script is to it. The author must have either had ld/OOBE experiences himself, or closely questioned someone who did. Try and find Dennis Wheatley's 'The Ka of Gifford Hilary' (may have misspelled this), If you haven't read it already. Similar theme...so similar in fact that I wondered if Matheson had read it. All the best, -- glyn ###### From: "Star Gazer" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: what dreams may come Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:04:14 +1000 Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <7cnd30$a5f$1@perki.connect.com.au> References: <19990314215736.02799.00000455@ng56.aol.com><7cm3f7$f2o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acc10-ppp43.mel.roaming.connect.com.au X-Trace: perki.connect.com.au 921647008 10415 203.8.176.235 (17 Mar 1999 05:03:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@connect.com.au NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Mar 1999 05:03:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!not-for-mail even after the movie and you testimony they still walk around with their eyes closed. it breaks my heart and makes me cry, just on the thought of it. a saddened star gazer