From: freestone@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Out Of Body....how to guide! Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:40:59 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 295 Message-ID: <7boqdp$n05$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.186.159.137 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Mar 05 14:40:59 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; U ;Nav) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x15.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 128.186.159.137 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.238.120.130!news-feeds.jump.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail >hi... >i guess it is time to put out my little advice-sheet!! >i have not done so...for awhile... >I do not consider it the best that i have seen, on this group, but it MAY be >of help to you... >there are other faqs and guides that get put up here...as well as leads to >sites. > >try doing a "dejanews' search on "OUT of Body"!! you can get lots of past >postings, that way..... >Freestone freestonew@hotmail.com ...... ,........... hello again! i have REWRITTEN my OBE article! maybe it is now more readable...... so i will repost it..here........ ============== ---OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES----------- new version Freestone Wilson (free) feel ok, to share this with anyone......... I have noted, over the months of reading these newsgroups...that the same Question is asked over and over........ -----how can i have an OBE? ----i can now Obe...but what can i DO with it?!! ----why does so-and-so, happen, as i do this? ---are Dreams also OBEs?? ----and other questions. So...... I have put together some of my experiences and observations..... my "two cents worth"..from my years of having out of body experiences. I have seen what I thought are BETTER faqs\articles...on OBE-ing...in this newsgroup, or in letters: but each person can contribute something: bear that in mind as you read this, that this article is NOT the final wisdom-filled word in OBE information!! We have a "Soul body"..that looks just like our "real body". It occupies the same space as our earthly body. It is "IN" the earth body..just like water is "in" an Orange! while this body is in the next upper dimension, from the physical world, this body is linked to the physical body...but from another dimension. Think of that orange; but with its juice in another dimension!! At night.."the juice separates from the orange....and keeps the shape of the orange": but this "Juice' is in another dimension, away from the earth. the Soul body separate from the earth body and "hovers" above it...right near the sleeper. the "Silver cord" connects the two...linking the bodies together. If it breaks......??. well........ you take the Final OBE: you die!! but this cord NEVER breaks in a obe....no matter if you go around the planet or 20 dimensions away---it can stretch infinitely! I will call this body..."the astral body"!!!!....from now on. your astral body looks like you. or maybe just a blob of light colored material...if it is not awake. it even wears clothes...like of your pajamas! MOST of the counsciouness...moves over to this body....at sleep. think of two boxcars side by side on two adjacent railroad tracks at the same speed: cargo is transfered from one to another. Just how MUCH cargo is transfered...will depend upon IF you can AWAKE into this body: most people just lie in it and dream brain homework processing....of the day's living. but SOME astral stuff gets through...that is what make the dreams often so wierd.... a combination of brain and astral occur. All of the Trainings...for Soul travel...in sleep...depend upon getting one to AWAKEN IN the astral body and then be able to use the astral-body ears and eyes to hear and see...what is OUTSIDE of this body!! ---and those strange noises and paralized body...this is where the awareness is only partially transfered over to the astral body. Ah, folks...this is the Trick----to become AWAKE ..in this astral body..while "sleeping"!! that is what all these excercises and Spiritual trainings are FOR!! And, ya know...I think that MANY people have many Bona fide, real, astral trips and experiences...and do not realize this...as they think it is only a dream!! Many old souls do Travel nightly: but they think that "it is only a vivid dream"!! How can you tell if your dream is a hidden OBE?!! ----do you fly or float..through the scenery? ---do you actually float/fly through walls, doors, buildings...as if they are not there? ---is the dream in vivid color..or in very LUCID awareness (LUCID DREAM)? Is even the awakeness more awake than even while awake in the daytime? do you go to somewhere else, on the earth, to have your dream?? ---do you see incredible scenes and places? Is the color of the sky of a translucent blue color?? ---do you see and talk to "dead" relatives..friends..???----or even be hounded by "demons"?!! ---do you receive teachings from people or teachers...there? do you get the strange feeling that your dream scenery will be not only "there"...during the daytime after you awake...it, having a reality of its own, that you did not create: but that this scenery would "still be there", even years later?!! .............these are some of the signs....of an OBE-dream. Now....OK..... now that you can do this, or have this obe... WHAT is it GOOD for: what can ya DO with it?!!! or is it just another occulty toy?! NO! right off...it is obvious that YOU..in an astral body...will still be "there" ....even when the physical body DIES! Your awareness will just transfer over to the astral body, for keeps, when you die. Thus..there is no death!! then there are the WORLDS that you can go to!!!!! to see the scenery of.... to get teachings from Guides..... to see your "dead" relatives and friends.... to talk to spirits....see Masters.....even Jesus!! and more...more...more....more........more!!!! one can be taken even to see the records of Probable futures..of the planet earth. True prophecy. I, myself, have been so taken..in my visionary dreams.....to see end-time visions... if you want them...please ask me.... free@epix.net From my experiences and from what i have read and was Taught, by teachers and life.....up IN the astral worlds.... there are two genaral places that you can go to..in OBE-ing. ONE...the astral "backside" to the physical world. In effect; you will become a ghost!! you will move through walls and float...like a ghost! and you can go to China..Russia..france..or to see your friend next door!! In fact.."real" ghosts...are Souls who are stuck on this next-to-the-physical twilight world. I have actually Traveled, myself, onto the earth-plane, in this level.....where someone living, on earth, saw me! I WAS a ghost...a living Ghost! He thought, indeed, that it was a ghost that he saw.....he fired a gun at me..in panic..then he threw tools at me..as i floated up the wall! I was a ghost...before i died!! also...i have seen ...for instance....i had a OBE where i spent the obe in a chinese-looking city. every single sign on the buildings was written in chinese letter-characters!! Then, there are all the worlds of spirit!! Lands for every Country..every race...and for every period of history.... they tell me that the astral lands are in layers of dimensions...each layer a little "above" that of a lower one. think of a FM radio..tipped up on its side: every station is an astral world: and this radio is on top of a building in New York City...just THINK of the vast number of FM stations that you could pick up, there, in that city, from that high vantage-point?!!! AND...this is just the ASTRAL LEVEL!! they tell me that there are many many layers of heaven above that....all reachable by an astral traveler! Vastness beyond compare...worlds and worlds and yet more worlds..... MAGIC ...exists here! Mind does indeed influence the surroundings. the mind, see, is now CLOSER to the level of the astral outer world in vibration: thus mind can actually affect the scenery. Magic!! "final Fantasy 7", or a good role playing computer game....is a good model..for many of these worlds, for what they are like to actually LIVE in. In fact , ...i think Spirit gave to us..games like this... as a "training course"...for heaven....for when we get there, after we die, it will not be so strange to us! How can one help to encourage these sleep astral OBEs...to have more and better ones? Here are a few of MY observations. ---you should ask..of Spirit..in prayer...to have these experiences. Many of them, you do not do, yourself...but you have an Angel or Guide, to lead you. Spirit would send such a helper. (This guide is usually unseen, while you are obe-ing. He takes you to the places that Spirit wants you to go to.) ---sleep on your back, facing the ceiling. ---Try to be sleeping between 4am and 7am---i find that the best times for obe..are then. ---try to be in a good state of mind and heart. (One of the MAJOR Spiritual laws, up there, is..."like attracts like". You are surrounded in scenery and people, by what is in your heart...FIRST! And foremost. Remember: the mind draws to you the places..and can create some of the scenery. and the mind is driven by the feelings of the HEART---which is....one's Feelings. So...the more you LOVE everything about you...in your waking life: the better your astral travel experiences will be, for taking you to "nice" places! Yes...i have seen HELL!!! It is NOT nice!! Have compassion for those who can never leave it!!! all negitive feelings\thoughts lead one to be drawn to there...before AND after death. {{even though the physical world is "thick density"...mind and the heart will draw reality to you, here, too!!!... "LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE"..as they say!!) ---read up on astral travel and OBEs...books on astral travel. There is a very good internet site..that has a whole section on "astral travel"------ www.spiritweb.org ---just before you fall asleep...ask of Spirit, to have an experience! You will see and experience some of the places that you will live in, after you die! "This is not Kansas anymore, Toto"....Dorothey..in the "Wizard of Oz"!! So.... What are some of the places and scenes..that i have seen?? In no particular order...here are some. The descriptions will not be of very good grammar..and will be short....to save bandwidth!! You can use these...as examples of some places that YOU can go to!.... ------i have been taken to a healing center, in heaven, for newly arrived souls, after death. these are Souls who need to "take a summer school remedial course, before entering that fall's college!". For souls who had never gotten around to develop their soul-life, while they were still living on earth. I have that obe, on a flopply-disk..if you would like to read it, please ask me. I will send it to you.....plus a few others...visits with deceased relatives, and seeings of masters. freestone@my-dejanews.com --------i met someone, that i knew, here on earth..in obe. .....i saw her, the next day...and she tells me that she dreams of seeing me the night before. And the scenery is the same!! Yes, "i will see you in my dreams"....as the song goes...is quite real!! --------i have seen a temple of prayer...where earthly prayers are routed through, to God.....Spirit; and not one prayer is lost or not paid attention to!! --------i had a drunken man ...on earth..wave to me..he could see me!!!...he protruded a bit, into the astral, in his drunken-ness! -------i have been blessed with seeing Sathya Sai Baba. -------i saw my deceased sister..being taken, with her class of students, too....from a lower heavenly school..to a higher heaven....by JESUS. {I have that one on disk: if you want it...ask me please!} -------i have had Long Talks with all my relatives...mother, father, sister.....many times...and seeing the homes and scenery where they live!....there, in heaven. { i have several on disk..ask me} -------i have done magic and Sorcery..in worlds where this IS the Basic law...that magic, IS! ------- i have obe-d to foreign earthly countries...Russia...France...India. ----------seen lost Souls, rescued..into higher realms....[ on disk..ask me} --------i have witnessed people being taken to heaven!. Once, i saw a car accident. A lady was standing by the wrecked car..dazed. But, none of the rescue squad could see her!!! She was dead!! I then looke up to the sky, and saw a hole in the sky! It was a round hole, maybe twenty feet across: the "sky" above this hole was very bright! there were Angels or Spirits standing around the edge of this hole, looking down to the ground below and they all were holding hands, like in a ring. Suddenly, i saw ANOTHER band of Angels descend down through this hole, from further above...about five Angels..in a smaller than the hole, ring..also holding hands...to make another ring. they descended to the lady who was standing there on the ground, "dead". As this band of angels came to the ground...this lady was the center of this circle. Then ALL of them..including the lady...rose upward into the sky and THROUGH the hole and onward, upward, out of sight, into the light. { I have read that often an OBE person volunteers or is "drafted' to perform a rescue service to the dead! the out of body person has the energy of both worlds, in him...thus the angels can use it to BRIDGE the gap, between the person to be rescued, and themselves. ----like of a "clutch plate'..between the car's motor and the axle!} so this is something a OBE person can do: help to rescue lost souls...and just-died Souls! ---------I have seen some hells, too! Hell is NOT "fire and Brimstone"!!---it is of a Grey Day, Forever....as if it were 36 degrees fareinhiet, ..and the lidded grey drizzle..covers al, with a permanent northeast wind.. ---ever pay "Riven"..or "MYST"?.....i have seen places like that. That is where we will go, after death...... Open that mailbox...and look at that letter...and off we go..to ZORK..ian universes and worlds!!! ....in our sleep...or after death! The BIGGEST learning experience..of these years of OBE..ing, is that I now know...that the Tombstone..is but a Door...into heaven...and not a "dead end"!! ..all the cynics are laid to rest, before wonder and awe....... ....our Adventures...have just only just begun...a billion worlds to explore...and a near-infinity of time, to explore them in! Child-like wonder...and awe......our lives have only just begun!! or as a spirit wrote through a medium..." the purpose of the earthy life---is to assey, to prepare, to get ready...to live"!!! I read that the Birthday..a Soul, in heaven celebrates...is NOT his earthly birthday, when he lived on earth...but the Date of his EARTHLY DEATH!! ........Freestone (Free) Live An Incredible Life! -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own