From: spicyjem@aol.comAstral4U (Spicy Jem) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Chakra Meditation Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 8 Dec 1998 22:13:32 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hello everyone, In a recent post from Julia, I noticed her mention how she really concentrates on meditating on her Chakras. Although some people debate on whether this is necessary to have an OOBE, I think most of us can agree that chakras, whether intentionally stimulated or unintentionally, play a very important role in our OOB adventures. It seems lately that a lot of Suneye stuff has taken over a majority of the NG, which is fine with me, but I also want to learn more about *other* ways to perhaps stimulate a successful OOBE. Which leads me to my question: Julia, can you maybe give me some pointers on what I can do to help with chakra meditating? For example, what are some of the things that go through your head as you try to stimulate them? I read somewhere that when trying to open one, a person should imagine their chakra as a piece of bread, and upon tearing the bread, this will open your chakras. Now, maybe something like that works for the author of that particular book, but that means nothing to me! If I imagine my chakras looking like bread, the only thing I accomplish is to make myself hungry! So with that in mind, do you have any visual imagery that you use when doing this? What pattern do you use to help stimulate them (feet to head progression, or head to feet?). How much time would you personally spend on each chakra? Sorry for the abundance of questions........my brain needs a recharge of information to keep it in shape! <3 Jeff Mash <3 To email me, remove the "Astral4U" in the address. "There's nothing to fear except fear itself...Oh...plus rejection and physical harm!" Need a laugh? Go to www.vertigy.com/jokemail ###### From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Chakra Meditation Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:38:14 GMT Organization: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET WorldCom) Lines: 202 Message-ID: <367042bd.46729366@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: aa210.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!bore.news.pipex.net!pipex!not-for-mail On 8 Dec 1998 22:13:32 GMT, spicyjem@aol.comAstral4U (Spicy Jem) wrote: >Julia, can you maybe give me some pointers on what I can do to help with chakra >meditating? For example, what are some of the things that go through your head >as you try to stimulate them? I read somewhere that when trying to open one, a >person should imagine their chakra as a piece of bread, and upon tearing the >bread, this will open your chakras. Now, maybe something like that works for >the author of that particular book, but that means nothing to me! If I imagine >my chakras looking like bread, the only thing I accomplish is to make myself >hungry! No, the bread image means nothing to me either. Golly, there are some weird people out there... > >So with that in mind, do you have any visual imagery that you use when doing >this? Buddhists have counted 7,600 chakras on the body and on the astral, etheral etc etc bodies. I personally use 'the big seven' plus the soles of the feet and the palms of the hands for some tasks. I keep using new techniques, inventing some, trying others from books or from group meditation sessions. I would rapidly get bored with the same old routine! The most effective imagery is, I find, that used in healing systems. Golly, I wish I could draw a picture of this for you! The seven chakras are all clusters of six or so spinning vortices, flaring out into a trumpet shape at the end, and connected by a tube running down the spine from crown (fontanelle) to base (coccyx). The 'middle' five chakras each have a pair of these trumpets connected by a horizontal tube which links them to the vertical one. This gives a back and front to the five middle chakras. The back and front have slightly differing properties, but each two should be kept balanced horizontally as a working pair. The vortices should be evenly matched in size, all spinning sunwise (clockwise) at the same speed. Blockages, reverse spins, swellings etc cause imbalances in health. Healers correct these flaws. When the front and back of a chakra are both spinning happily, there is a sensation of 'drawing-in', shortening or tightening in the tube as the universal energies are sucked in to empower the person. With an anticlockwise spin, the person's energy is depleted. Static, and the person is blocked from development. Spin can be detected with a pendulum and with experience, by awareness of sensation. The spin can be corrected (even on a daily basis with a stressfilled life) by thought: point your finger (real or astral) at the chakra and slowly stir it as though you were winding on the hands of a clock until it begins to move of its own accord. This can be done on the front and the back by thinking about each in turn. Tuning a pair together takes a few moments more of thinking about each vortice cluster adjusting its speed of spin until they balance. The vortices generally spin at a smooth, visible pace unless you get very excited when they can whizz and blurr. The base and crown trumpets connect or pair with each other via the spinal tube. All seven chakras should be a similar size and speed for every day use, with the crown chakra opened up for astral travel, healing etc as it then accesses the unlimited energy of the universe. Each chakra has an associated colour - thinking of that colour, surrounding yourself in it energises and empowers each chakra. Base - red, genital area - orange, solar plexus (just above the navel) yellow, heart - green, throat - blue, third eye indigo/ lavender and violet shades (depending on the person's state of development), crown - indigo, white, gold (ditto). For spiritual development, don't take much notice of the base and genital chakras. Go easy on the solar plexus, which concerns emotions and relationship issues. Let your heart swell and throb with the joy and love within the universe. Let your throat open and sing with delight. Let your third eye be wide open to percieve all that is hidden from 'normal' sight. Open your crown to union with the divine. After meditation or astral travel, don't shut or close down the chakras, or life will be just too dull, heavy and boring. Reduce the special openness down to a more manageable size (around an inch in diameter) and tune up regularly. > What pattern do you use to help stimulate them (feet to head >progression, or head to feet?). > Base to crown, every time. It's all up from here. > How much time would you personally spend on >each chakra? It varies with the task I'm performing. Generally, a minute each on the base ones, several minutes on the solar plexus and heart and throat, five minutes on the third eye and crown. I often do a very rapid (five minute) 'run through' them all in preparation for my Rainbow Technique of astral travel (I'll add this to the end of this post) or as a 'tune-up' with my selenite wand. Or I do a one minute whoosh up the spine before driving the car or a tricky task - it improves concentration. If I'm working on, say, the heart, I will run through the others and then return to spend ten to fifteen minutes on the heart. Then I will do a quick rebalance before 'coming back'. > >Sorry for the abundance of questions........my brain needs a recharge of >information to keep it in shape! There is no life without learning. My Rainbow Technique of Astral Travel: (repost) I wondered whether some of you people might be interested in trying the OBE technique which I have recently been developing. Working along the lines of my favourite meditations, I tried to find an easy way to project out to the sphinx for a specific time. It doesn't work every time - I often fall asleep, but in the last three nights it has worked twice, so I'm quite pleased with it. I'm posting it to Lucid Dreams as well as OBE, because for me this experience involves aspects of both states. Here's how to do it: Lie down comfortably in a dark room. Close your eyes. If you work with guides or guardian angels, ask them to draw near and assist you. I find it particularly comfortable to wedge myself between two pillows (or a pillow and my husband!) with my elbows up on the pillows. I often use crystals when I am meditating or healing, and I have found that my little bismuth pyramid, quartz crystal pyramid, obsidian or hematite stones all accelerate Astral Projection when balanced on my 'third eye' chakra, just between the brow. They aren't necessary, but they may give some of you that extra 'lift' you say you need! Now relax. This is not to go to sleep, but the rather more conscious relaxation of meditation. Clear your mind of all the rushing thoughts of everyday life, and search for the cool space inside your skull. If you become uncomfortable, wriggle slightly to ease it, but carry on meditating. Gradually (after two or three minutes - this process doesn't take long!) you will became aware that your breathing and heartbeat have both slowed right down. Carry on until your breathing is barely perceptible. Now you are going to gradually open the chakras. Feel all seven, from the base of your spine (coccyx) running up your back, then from your throat up through your brainstem and over to the third eye. From there up to the crown, which will eventually open up and begin your AP. Allow your crown to become a conduit for lovely white light which will flood and trickle into every corner of your weary body, and cleanse it, leaving you as a being of light. Be aware of all the chakras, and how your body in the Astral Plane will appear as a ribbon of glowing coloured chakra lights until you choose to clothe it in your 'physical' body. The technique for travel which I will explain will connect those glowing lights into a rainbow, on which you can ride to the sphinx - or anywhere else you fancy! Begin with the root chakra at the base. Imagine a warm and pleasing red glow lighting up at the base of your spine. Look into the glow, and think of all the red things you can - tomatoes, hot coals, rubies, roses. Now allow yourself to become entirely suffused in that redness. You will be able to pinpoint the origin of the red light, and that is your root chakra. Now imagine that point budding and opening into a gorgeous red flower - a frilly poppy works for me here. As the flower opens out fully from your spine into your lower body, let it begin to slowly twirl. That chakra is now open. Imagine a beam of white light coming down from above now, painlessly piercing the heart of the flower. Allow the beam to cut through the flower and shoot out below you, washing away all the grit and dirt of blockages. This may take a while to achieve if you have chakra blockages, but keep going! As the clean white light pierces and rushes through you, it will begin to glow red, taking up the colour of your root chakra. This red beam is the first part of the rainbow. Feel it touching the earth down below you, and rising up through you and arching away into the sky above. You have achieved the first step towards astral travel. Now move up to your second chakra. This is difficult to pin down at first, but imagine a warm orange glow filling your belly. Think of oranges - smell, taste, colour. Now you can begin to pinpoint the origin, and allow that chakra to bud, open as a splendid orange flower - a french marigold works for me. Let it begin to turn. Now that chakra is open. Pierce and cleanse it with a beam of white light, then the light will become orange. Your rainbow is forming. Move on to the third and yellow chakra, the solar plexus or base of the lungs. Open the yellow flower, pierce and cleanse it, allow the yellow beam to fuse into the red and orange. Up to the heart chakra, which is a lovely exotic green flower (a Malaysian orchid?) and green beam of light. Up to the throat chakra, and revel in the luminous blue flower and beam. Become aware of the breadth and intensity of the rainbow which is now passing through you, and emanating from you. Be proud of this, your own magnificent rainbow. Now let your consciousness rise up through the brain stem and into the third eye. This will come as a sudden jolt and you will find yourself become partially paralysed, and be aware of a slight floating sensation. You may even black out for a few moments. Stay relaxed, remind yourself of the strength and vigour of your rainbow. You have the inner strength and resources to achieve travel now. Let the third eye flower bud and open. This will be an indigo colour (like a new pair of jeans!) unless you are an experienced chakra meditator, when the colours begin to 'slip down' and this one becomes a soft violet shade. This flower opens not within your body but outwards, on your brow. Open the chakra by twirling the flower. Cleanse this flower with a white beam of light, which then takes on the purple hue of the flower. Like switching on the ignition of a car, you have now begun powering up for your jouney. This is your rainbow complete, and you are ready to start to travel. Now all you have to do is to move your consciousness up to the crown chakra. This is a huge and exquisite lotus-blossom of violet shades, with perhaps white and gold swirls as you become more proficient. As you cleanse this flower with white light, you become a creature of pure light yourself. As you start to twirl this flower, you are starting to float and lift off. Now steer yourself by balancing your awareness between the third eye and crown chakras. As you ride up your rainbow, your bedroom and house and street and town fall away beneath you, waiting for your return. Point your rainbow towards the sphinx. Arch high up into the sky, see your country and continent and ocean fall away below you. See the coast of Africa, the rainbow curving down over the mouth of the Nile, watch the Nile's path until you see the lights of Cairo. At the end of your rainbow sits the Sphinx. Slowly slide down and step off your rainbow. Tell your rainbow to fade until you need it to return on. If you want to get back fast, it will take you. If there is any crisis at home with your physical body, it will rush you back there. Trust it : it is your own rainbow, and compounded of your own inner light. All best wishes, Julia Hawkes-Moore. ###### From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Chakra Meditation Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:08:04 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Lines: 32 Message-ID: <36765433.9910659@news.melbpc.org.au> References: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> <367042bd.46729366@news.dial.pipex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bilby15.melbpc.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news2.melbpc.org.au!not-for-mail On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:38:14 GMT, hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore) wrote: < snip > > After meditation or astral travel, don't shut or close down the >chakras, or life will be just too dull, heavy and boring. Reduce the >special openness down to a more manageable size (around an inch in >diameter) and tune up regularly. < snip > I wouldn't agree with that approach. Unless one has initiated effective psychic protection techniques AND regularly checks/revives them then IMO it is NOT a good idea to have one's chakras open when doing ordinary things. Open chakras without proper protection can lead to an input of discordant energies/entities into the aura. This can have the effect of people becoming very drained of energy and becoming very "skatty" (spaced out). Many psychics for example cannot function properly in the "real" world so to speak. Open chakras can also lead to what some people would term psychiatric problems. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Chakra Meditation Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:05:04 GMT Organization: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET WorldCom) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3671b2be.27855158@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> <367042bd.46729366@news.dial.pipex.com> <36765433.9910659@news.melbpc.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: aa167.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!bore.news.pipex.net!pipex!not-for-mail On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:08:04 GMT, johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) wrote: >I wouldn't agree with that approach. Unless one has initiated >effective psychic protection techniques AND regularly checks/revives >them then IMO it is NOT a good idea to have one's chakras open when >doing ordinary things. Open chakras without proper protection can lead >to an input of discordant energies/entities into the aura. > >This can have the effect of people becoming very drained of energy and >becoming very "skatty" (spaced out). Many psychics for example cannot >function properly in the "real" world so to speak. Open chakras can >also lead to what some people would term psychiatric problems. ...and I almost wrote "but I bet that John Fitzsimons will disagree with me here, so I will leave it up to him to tell you all about the necessity for psychic protection etc... And lo! All best wishes, Julia. ###### From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Reply: Chakra Meditation Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:02:31 GMT Organization: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNET WorldCom) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3671b1cd.27614147@news.dial.pipex.com> References: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> <367042bd.46729366@news.dial.pipex.com> <74p1q4$n1v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: aa167.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!bore.news.pipex.net!pipex!not-for-mail On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:53:09 GMT, frdpd@hotmail.com wrote: >Just reading >Julias post make my chakras get excited. I needed to know that part about >not messing with the lower chakra for spiritual developement. What Julia >says about spending time on the chakras reminds me of what reiki >practitioners do. They have to spend some time each day on each chakra and >there is a nice spiritual heat feeling accociated with it. After I had my >first reiki attunement I had alot of weak Zings bouncing through my head in >the morning. I relate those zings to highly charged energy battery which >means I can astral project. I love it when its charged like that. If I do >some intence communion meditation there is a strong heat in my chakras, the >throat especially. My poor heart is still blocked some. Louis Bless you. Louis, nice to see you again! Keep working on your precious heart. I very recently had a small heart attack, so I know the value of exercise... All best wishes, Julia. ###### From: "Bart" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Reply: Chakra Meditation Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:43:34 -0500 Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 15 Message-ID: <74us0e$n6a@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <19981208171332.10202.00003976@ng17.aol.com> <367042bd.46729366@news.dial.pipex.com> <74p1q4$n1v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <3671b1cd.27614147@news.dial.pipex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clv-oh39-39.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Dec 12 2:50:54 PM PST 1998 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!ix.netcom.com!news Julia Hawkes-Moore wrote in message <3671b1cd.27614147@news.dial.pipex.com>... >I very recently had a small heart >attack, so I know the value of exercise... >All best wishes, Julia. Kinda catches your attention, eh? We're not done loving you - so stick around. Bart