From: "Rob Hall" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Swap bodies Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:42:57 +0800 Organization: iiNet Technologies Lines: 11 Message-ID: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: as124.nv.iinet.net.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.per.connect.com.au!news.waia.asn.au!news.wantree.com.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) but have recently revived my interest. Rob ###### Message-ID: <365A2FA0.C4D26759@jetlink.net> From: ------------- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:01:36 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.19.49.134 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 911880031 208.19.49.134 (Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:00:31 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:00:31 EDT Organization: Jetlink Systems (jetlink.net) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!europa.clark.net!207.106.0.20!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail I've had the same thoughts about switching bodies. But after I thought about it for a while, I figured the Silver Cord would probably prevent us from doing so. ###### Message-ID: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:19:03 +0100 From: Lars Foleide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: t3o204p41.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t3o204p41.telia.com Lines: 23 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsfeed.online.no!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t3o204p41.telia.com I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... Weather it is true or not, I don't know... But I sounds rather logical..... I mean, you leave your body and take another... Cheers, Lars Rob Hall wrote: > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > but have recently revived my interest. > > Rob ###### From: Akindeji Hill Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:26:27 -0500 Organization: University of South Florida Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: suntan.eng.usf.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ahill@suntan In-Reply-To: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news1.usf.edu!suntan!ahill On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Lars Foleide wrote: I hear that a guy named Robert Bruce, (who wrote, the tretice on astral projection,) traveled to an alternate universe, where he saw himself there and got sucked into his alternates body. And he lived there for a few weeks before he could get out. I don't think that you could just enter someones body though. The other persons body will reject you just as if you injected you own blood into there's,( there blood will attack yours). I'm pritty sure there are defences agains body hopping though. But if you want to trade alternate universes then I guess that is possible. :-) But even if you do manage to trade bodies, it's very dangerous because if you are not very good at OBE then you might not be able to get out for a while. Plus, if the person you are trading with succeds in getting into your body and get's stuck, and you can't get into theirs, then you may not be able to get back into your body either while they are there. And you only have so long before your Etheric matter runs out(about two weeks) then you will not be bound to the physical realm any more. And that basicaly means good bye for you and enjoy heaven. Etheric matter (according to Robert Bruce) Is subtle matter that is produced by all living things, and is heavy enough to hold a spirit on the earth-physical realm untill the spirit uses up all the etheric energy) So the moral of the story is DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH YOUR BODY. IT'S A TEMPLE NOT A JUNGLE GYM. > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > But I sounds rather logical..... > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > Cheers, > Lars > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > Rob > > > ###### From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:34:15 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Lines: 27 Message-ID: <366138d1.9800443@news.melbpc.org.au> References: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: b3-3.melbpc.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news2.melbpc.org.au!not-for-mail On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:42:57 +0800, "Rob Hall" wrote: >This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and >project yourself into another person's body? Yep. >Following that train of thought, can two people swap bodies? Yep. >If so is this dangerous? Depends what the other person does with your body ! Unless you are properly trained in these things it is not a good idea to stay out of your own body for prolonged periods of time. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:34:22 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia Lines: 62 Message-ID: <3662398e.9989732@news.melbpc.org.au> References: <73d6fq$fkh$1@news.iinet.net.au> <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: b3-3.melbpc.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news2.melbpc.org.au!not-for-mail On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:26:27 -0500, Akindeji Hill wrote: < snip > >I don't think that you could just enter someones body though. One can. >The other persons body will reject you just as if you injected you >own blood into there's,( there blood will attack yours). I'm pritty sure >there are defences agains body hopping though. There are natural defences and one can increase the amount of psychic protection one has. >But if you want to >trade alternate universes then I guess that is possible. :-) No need to. There are plenty of cases of obsession/possession in this universe. >But even if you do manage to trade bodies, it's very dangerous >because if you are not very good at OBE then you might not be able to get >out for a while. It is usually much harder to stay in another body than to get out of it. (If you have a physical body of your own). > Plus, if the person you are trading with succeds in >getting into your body and get's stuck, and you can't get into theirs, >then you may not be able to get back into your body either while >they are there. Commonly called "possession". Possession however is usually done by people who don't have a physical body of their own. > And you only have so long before your Etheric matter runs >out(about two weeks) then you will not be bound to the physical realm any >more. And that basicaly means good bye for you and enjoy heaven. >Etheric matter (according to Robert Bruce) Is subtle matter that is >produced by all living things, and is heavy enough to hold a spirit on the >earth-physical realm untill the spirit uses up all the etheric energy) How long each person can "stay out" depends on their knowledge/energy reserves. A sick person for example should avoid going OOB (except for healing purposes) as much as possible. >So the moral of the story is DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH YOUR BODY. IT'S A >TEMPLE NOT A JUNGLE GYM. True. Regards, John. **************************************************** ,-._|\ John Fitzsimons - Melbourne, Australia. / Oz \ johnf@melbpc.org.au, Fidonet 3:632/309 \_,--.x/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/~johnf/welcome.htm v http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/ ###### From: dromero@no.spam.roanoke.infi.bet (Douglas J. Romero ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: 27 Nov 1998 11:01:28 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 36 Message-ID: <73m0q8$h62$3@nw003t.infi.net> References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm7-221.roanoke.infi.net X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.16 for Newton Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no end. In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide wrote: > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > But I sounds rather logical..... > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > Cheers, > Lars > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > Rob > The DoggieMon -- Douglas J. Romero, MD University of Virginia Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ###### Message-ID: <365E95BB.CED04F4E@netparadise.no> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:06:19 +0100 From: Lars Foleide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <73m0q8$h62$3@nw003t.infi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: t1o204p39.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t1o204p39.telia.com Lines: 73 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-stkh.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t1o204p39.telia.com The swap body for a day isn't be source you could get. He exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day. The name is Scott Hill and he was here the summer some time. But that was just one of many things he said he could do, he could also materialize water and stuff like that while outside his body. Create a temp-body and interfere with the real world. And move things like if he was awake... But when some guy also came to this group this weird things start to happen. It was like it wasn't the same guy anymore... What I believed happened was that other spirits took control over his body... But he could also be a total wacko... so.... (Anyway, interesting reading if you don't have anything to do. You can find the posts on dejanews...) The other source is a person with long experience within psionics... The subject came up on a psionics mailing list (that has been taken down because of too much psi attacts..) And that person just mentioned that she had heard of people that swapped bodies without making it back... So there you have it... Not something that happen very often anyway... Cheers, Lars "Douglas J. Romero" wrote: > Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no > end. > In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide > wrote: > > > > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > > But I sounds rather logical..... > > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > > > > Cheers, > > Lars > > > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB > and > > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > > > Rob > > > > The DoggieMon > -- > Douglas J. Romero, MD > University of Virginia > Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ###### From: dromero@no.spam.roanoke.infi.bet (Douglas J. Romero ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: 27 Dec 1998 19:20:11 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 36 Message-ID: <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm3-118.roanoke.infi.net X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.18 for Newton Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no end. In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide wrote: > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > But I sounds rather logical..... > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > Cheers, > Lars > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > Rob > The DoggieMon -- Douglas J. Romero, MD University of Virginia Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:24:17 +0100 Lines: 101 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t7o204p54.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t7o204p54.telia.com Message-ID: <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t7o204p54.telia.com My reply was: ------------- Re: Swap bodies more options Author: Lars Foleide Email: lars@netparadise.no Date: 1998/11/27 Forums: alt.out-of-body more headers author profile view thread The swap body for a day isn't be source you could get. He exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day. The name is Scott Hill and he was here the summer some time. But that was just one of many things he said he could do, he could also materialize water and stuff like that while outside his body. Create a temp-body and interfere with the real world. And move things like if he was awake... But when some guy also came to this group this weird things start to happen. It was like it wasn't the same guy anymore... What I believed happened was that other spirits took control over his body... But he could also be a total wacko... so.... (Anyway, interesting reading if you don't have anything to do. You can find the posts on dejanews...) The other source is a person with long experience within psionics... The subject came up on a psionics mailing list (that has been taken down because of too much psi attacts..) And that person just mentioned that she had heard of people that swapped bodies without making it back... So there you have it... Not something that happen very often anyway... Cheers, Lars "Douglas J. Romero" wrote: > Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no > end. > In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide > wrote: > > > > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > > But I sounds rather logical..... > > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > > > > Cheers, > > Lars > > > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB > and > > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > > > Rob > > > > The DoggieMon > -- > Douglas J. Romero, MD > University of Virginia > Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ----------- ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:01:27 +0100 Lines: 59 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p35.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p35.telia.com Message-ID: <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!uninett.no!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t8o204p35.telia.com Craig wrote in message <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message>... >Lars wrote: > > >> The swap body for a day isn't be source you could get. >> He exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day. >> >> The name is Scott Hill and ............. > >C'mon Lars! You don't STILL believe all that crap that Scott Hill >dribbled on about do you? He said he was having a lend of us just before >he got kicked off his service provider. Sorry to say this, but Scott is still online.... His homepage was last updated 3/12/98 Scott contradicted himself so many times that not everything he said can be true. But I still don't don't believe it was all a lie.... > >> But when some guy also came to this group this weird things >> start to happen. It was like it wasn't the same guy anymore... >> What I believed happened was that other spirits took control >> over his body... > >Ohhhh my!!!!!! What can I say. Wild theory, eh? As I said, not a very reliable source.... > >> But he could also be a total wacko... so.... > >That's more like it Lars, only he wasn't a wacko, he knew exactly what >he was doing the whole time. He is either mentally unstable and was >desperate to be liked and wanted to feel power over people, or he was >just out to get kicks by sucking people in, such as yourself, with his >persistent lies. Not what I would describe as a normal person. But believing it all to be persistent lies is not what I would call a realistic explanation.. In regards to the swap bodies discussion. There is something I wanted to add. There is one type of remote viewing that involves seeing what another person can see, hear the same... Basically experiences all the senses... This is not only a human-human communication, people in deep meditation have also experienced taken the viewpoint from a spider. Regards, Lars ###### Message-ID: <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:03:57 +1100 From: Craig Organization: Deja Vous X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.18.28.10 X-Trace: 30 Dec 1998 06:06:33 +1000, 203.18.28.10 Lines: 38 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!nap-ns1!203.18.28.10 Lars wrote: > The swap body for a day isn't be source you could get. > He exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day. > > The name is Scott Hill and ............. C'mon Lars! You don't STILL believe all that crap that Scott Hill dribbled on about do you? He said he was having a lend of us just before he got kicked off his service provider. > But when some guy also came to this group this weird things > start to happen. It was like it wasn't the same guy anymore... > What I believed happened was that other spirits took control > over his body... Ohhhh my!!!!!! What can I say. > But he could also be a total wacko... so.... That's more like it Lars, only he wasn't a wacko, he knew exactly what he was doing the whole time. He is either mentally unstable and was desperate to be liked and wanted to feel power over people, or he was just out to get kicks by sucking people in, such as yourself, with his persistent lies. Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin To respond, delete _nospam_ scrappy@_nospam_netconnect.com.au -- ###### From: silkdick@aol.com (Silk Dick) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 30 Dec 1998 07:25:14 GMT References: <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Message-ID: <19981230022514.23737.00001253@ngol04.aol.com> Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail In article <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com>, "Lars Rune Foleide" writes: > >Scott contradicted himself so many times that not everything he >said can be true. But I still don't don't believe it was all a lie.... tho the basic content of the discussion matter may have had some basis in truth to it, everything S.H. created was PURE FICTION. Based on fact? perhaps. But fiction nonetheless. He listened to OOB stories on TV and radio, and in NGs, and just put it all together in a story to make himself supreme Avatar. What utter horseshit! I could smell his manure a half-globe away!! >In regards to the swap bodies discussion. >There is something I wanted to add. There is one >type of remote viewing that involves seeing >what another person can see, hear the same... >Basically experiences all the senses... >This is not only a human-human communication, >people in deep meditation have also experienced >taken the viewpoint from a spider. yes, and I even once saw life from the perspective of an ant inside his ant hill, looking up thru it to the world above. I've also seen my own physical form (and done things with it) from the perspective of a female! that's the BEST part! I somehow linked / replaced the consciousness of the woman I was with, dreamt of certain things being done to my physical male body, and then she upped and did EVERYTHING exactly the same way less than 24 hours later! (The dream preceded the act by around 12 to 18 hours.) But in order to do this, you MUST have a good working relationship with the person who's body you're viewing from. (I think...) In the case of the ant, I'd just wiped out an ant colony, and I believe the resulting dream was an act of karma. Dick Silk, The Computer Tutor www.citysearch.com/nas/computertutor SilkDick@aol.com pager #615-923-1696 ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:22:40 +0100 Lines: 73 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t7o204p30.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t7o204p30.telia.com Message-ID: <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!uninett.no!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t7o204p30.telia.com Craig wrote in message <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message>... >Lars wrote: > >> Sorry to say this, but Scott is still online.... >> His homepage was last updated 3/12/98 > >Ah, but I didn't say he wasn't still online, I only mentioned that he >was such a liar and a trouble maker, that he got kicked off the service >provider he was going through at the time, after they received so many >complaints about him. Yeah, he got kicked off the service provider because of all the complaints... 3/12/98 is most likely in May... (There are two systems out there dd/mm/yy and mm/dd/yy so it's not always easy to know.) His homepage is still up, but he was using free homepages, and they last forever so.... Sent a test mail, and got one back saying that the user is unknown.... Don't know if he has subscribed to another supplier though.... > >> Scott contradicted himself so many times that not everything he >> said can be true. But I still don't don't believe it was all a lie.... > >Nothing Scott said can ever be taken as the whole truth now, because he >was such a big story teller. Even if some of what he said was true, >(which, btw, I do believe deep down he was interested in learning about >OBE's, but wanted to make himself out to be such a big person he >basically buried himself before anyone else had a chance to) how do we >tell what was true and what wasn't when even he said that the whole lot >was made up by him and his friends. Just another lie? > >> Wild theory, eh? > >Well, actually, now that I think about it, maybe he is a little >schizophrenic or something. At the very least, I would say, from how I >read him, he is a very very lonely, unadjusted young man. What he did >within this group was wrong, and he knew what he was doing all along. If >you still wish to believe his wild stories about bad spirits taking over >his body, then go ahead Lars, just remember, there are a lot of people >here who could see right through his little game the whole time. Hell, >most of us even gave him a big chance to redeem himself, and he blew >that also. I have many theories, but which one is true will we never know.... > >Well, actually, the main point of me even replying to your post, was >because I can not see how you can tell people that Scott Hill could do >such things as 'exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day, >materialize water and stuff like that while outside his body. Create a >temp-body and interfere with the real world. And move things like if he >was awake...' when there is no way I would ever source the likes of >Scott Hill as someone who you can say that you would believe could do >such things. Know what I mean? > I believe everything Scott Hill claimed being to do, is possible. Whether or not Hill was telling the truth or not, I don't know. Exchanging bodies stories is not something you hear everyday, so I just included what I had.... Regards, Lars ###### Message-ID: <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:51:36 +1100 From: Craig Organization: Deja Vous X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.18.28.21 X-Trace: 31 Dec 1998 05:02:48 +1000, 203.18.28.21 Lines: 70 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nap-ns1!203.18.28.21 Lars wrote: > Sorry to say this, but Scott is still online.... > His homepage was last updated 3/12/98 Ah, but I didn't say he wasn't still online, I only mentioned that he was such a liar and a trouble maker, that he got kicked off the service provider he was going through at the time, after they received so many complaints about him. > Scott contradicted himself so many times that not everything he > said can be true. But I still don't don't believe it was all a lie.... Nothing Scott said can ever be taken as the whole truth now, because he was such a big story teller. Even if some of what he said was true, (which, btw, I do believe deep down he was interested in learning about OBE's, but wanted to make himself out to be such a big person he basically buried himself before anyone else had a chance to) how do we tell what was true and what wasn't when even he said that the whole lot was made up by him and his friends. Just another lie? > >> But when some guy also came to this group this weird things > >> start to happen. It was like it wasn't the same guy anymore... > >> What I believed happened was that other spirits took control > >> over his body... > > > >Ohhhh my!!!!!! What can I say. > > Wild theory, eh? Well, actually, now that I think about it, maybe he is a little schizophrenic or something. At the very least, I would say, from how I read him, he is a very very lonely, unadjusted young man. What he did within this group was wrong, and he knew what he was doing all along. If you still wish to believe his wild stories about bad spirits taking over his body, then go ahead Lars, just remember, there are a lot of people here who could see right through his little game the whole time. Hell, most of us even gave him a big chance to redeem himself, and he blew that also. > Not what I would describe as a normal person. That is the understatement of the year, my friend! :-) > But believing it all to be persistent lies is not what I would call > a realistic explanation.. Well, actually, the main point of me even replying to your post, was because I can not see how you can tell people that Scott Hill could do such things as 'exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day, materialize water and stuff like that while outside his body. Create a temp-body and interfere with the real world. And move things like if he was awake...' when there is no way I would ever source the likes of Scott Hill as someone who you can say that you would believe could do such things. Know what I mean? All the best Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin To respond, delete _nospam_ scrappy@_nospam_netconnect.com.au -- ###### From: White Spirit Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 14:34:00 -0800 Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Lines: 23 Message-ID: <911116A16E451A83.51B692018943489D.01D0FD11FCE215AD@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <368D4D57.2893@hotmail.com> References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368d14c7.0@d2o204.telia.com> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Fri Jan 1 14:34:07 1999 NNTP-Posting-Host: cALVN+Bl.F%+TMKB (Encoded at Airnews!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.airnews.net!cabal10.airnews.net!cabal1.airnews.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet Lars Rune Foleide wrote: > In regards to the swap bodies discussion, did I find some > interesting post at a psionic mailing list. Some psionics > is trying to start their own town for psionics, a town without > skeptics like normal people, where their children might > grow up in a natural environment for developing their > abilities. If you're talking about Project Pegasus ('Waco-in-Wyoming'), follow the "Project Pedalstool" link on the Psycho Guild lame page (a satire of the Psion Guild) in my .sig for a humourous, but more realistic, view of their ideas. -- Psycho Guild lame page - http://cyberspace.org/~bastard/index.html My lame home page - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Starship/7466/ "It's fun being a pathologist - slicing up corpses Especially when they've just been exhumed I like doing autopsies on festering carcasses - I get high sniffing on all the fumes" ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:34:19 +0100 Lines: 30 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t5o204p3.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t5o204p3.telia.com Message-ID: <368d14c7.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!uninett.no!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t5o204p3.telia.com In regards to the swap bodies discussion, did I find some interesting post at a psionic mailing list. Some psionics is trying to start their own town for psionics, a town without skeptics like normal people, where their children might grow up in a natural environment for developing their abilities. Anyway, the question of location came up and this post was sent: ---------- > ok, there is a town of %100 mediums some where in the U.S. I have tried to > locate them but my memory is rusty. I had no luck, please if anyone out > there can find them or knows where they are. I propose we move right next > to them. I understand why you might feel that's a good idea, but personally I would probably go postal on them in short order. I really don't like entities around ALL OVER THE PLACE bothering me. And they tend to hang around people who let them use their bodies. ---------- Maybe somewhere in Australia is there a lot of entities hanging around Scott Hill? Regards, Lars ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368d14c7.0@d2o204.telia.com> <911116A16E451A83.51B692018943489D.01D0FD11FCE215AD@library-proxy.airnews.net> Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:22:14 +0100 Lines: 22 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: t4o204p47.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t4o204p47.telia.com Message-ID: <368ed3f5.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed.ifi.uio.no!newsfeed.online.no!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t4o204p47.telia.com Don't know about more realistic, but it sure was more humourous. Nice piece of art.... Regards, Lars White Spirit wrote in message > >If you're talking about Project Pegasus ('Waco-in-Wyoming'), >follow the "Project Pedalstool" link on the Psycho Guild lame >page (a satire of the Psion Guild) in my .sig for a humourous, >but more realistic, view of their ideas. > > >-- >Psycho Guild lame page - http://cyberspace.org/~bastard/index.html >My lame home page - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Starship/7466/ > ###### Message-ID: <368EDD8B.88E0BB5F@the.end.of.the.message> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:01:31 +1100 From: Craig Organization: Deja Vous X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.18.28.14 X-Trace: 4 Jan 1999 02:26:13 +1000, 203.18.28.14 Lines: 98 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!newsfeed-zh.ip-plus.net!news-nyc.telia.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nap-ns1!203.18.28.14 Lars Rune Foleide wrote: > > Craig wrote in message <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message>... > >Lars wrote: > > > >> Sorry to say this, but Scott is still online.... > >> His homepage was last updated 3/12/98 > > > >Ah, but I didn't say he wasn't still online, I only mentioned that he > >was such a liar and a trouble maker, that he got kicked off the service > >provider he was going through at the time, after they received so many > >complaints about him. > > Yeah, he got kicked off the service provider because of all the > complaints... > > 3/12/98 is most likely in May... > (There are two systems out there dd/mm/yy and mm/dd/yy so it's not always > easy to know.) > > His homepage is still up, but he was using free homepages, and they last > forever so.... > > Sent a test mail, and got one back saying that the user is unknown.... > > Don't know if he has subscribed to another supplier though.... > > > > >> Scott contradicted himself so many times that not everything he > >> said can be true. But I still don't don't believe it was all a lie.... > > > >Nothing Scott said can ever be taken as the whole truth now, because he > >was such a big story teller. Even if some of what he said was true, > >(which, btw, I do believe deep down he was interested in learning about > >OBE's, but wanted to make himself out to be such a big person he > >basically buried himself before anyone else had a chance to) how do we > >tell what was true and what wasn't when even he said that the whole lot > >was made up by him and his friends. Just another lie? > > > >> Wild theory, eh? > > > >Well, actually, now that I think about it, maybe he is a little > >schizophrenic or something. At the very least, I would say, from how I > >read him, he is a very very lonely, unadjusted young man. What he did > >within this group was wrong, and he knew what he was doing all along. If > >you still wish to believe his wild stories about bad spirits taking over > >his body, then go ahead Lars, just remember, there are a lot of people > >here who could see right through his little game the whole time. Hell, > >most of us even gave him a big chance to redeem himself, and he blew > >that also. > > I have many theories, but which one is true will we never know.... > > > > >Well, actually, the main point of me even replying to your post, was > >because I can not see how you can tell people that Scott Hill could do > >such things as 'exchanged bodies with his soul-twin for one day, > >materialize water and stuff like that while outside his body. Create a > >temp-body and interfere with the real world. And move things like if he > >was awake...' when there is no way I would ever source the likes of > >Scott Hill as someone who you can say that you would believe could do > >such things. Know what I mean? > > > > I believe everything Scott Hill claimed being to do, is possible. > Whether or not Hill was telling the truth or not, I don't know. > Exchanging bodies stories is not something you hear everyday, > so I just included what I had.... > Well Lars, sometimes, just sometimes, you come out and surprise me totally! ;-) What a breath of fresh air to receive a post such as this from you. :-) I too, believe most of the stuff Scott 'claimed' he could do, is possible. But I still fail to believe Scott himself could do such things. I guess we will never know about him will we. No great loss though, IMHO. :-) If you had stated that Scott was a trouble maker when posting the info about him, I mean, to say he ended up telling us all we were freaks in the end and he was having a lend of us, would have made your point more clear, that you believe such things are possible, you just need to take into account the disposition of the person stating the claim. A more reputable source would have been more substantial, which, you seem to have done also anyway. :-) All the best Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin To respond, delete _nospam_ scrappy@_nospam_netconnect.com.au -- ###### Message-ID: <368EDDFD.ABCBB37F@the.end.of.the.message> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:03:25 +1100 From: Craig Organization: Deja Vous X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <76619b$h28$3@nw001t.infi.net> <3686dd72.0@d2o204.telia.com> <3689279D.C8D3EC@the.end.of.the.message> <36897b05.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368A6828.E0254399@the.end.of.the.message> <368ad188.0@d2o204.telia.com> <368d14c7.0@d2o204.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.18.28.14 X-Trace: 4 Jan 1999 02:26:50 +1000, 203.18.28.14 Lines: 39 Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!isdnet!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!ams.news.uu.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nap-ns1!203.18.28.14 Lars Rune Foleide wrote: > > In regards to the swap bodies discussion, did I find some > interesting post at a psionic mailing list. Some psionics > is trying to start their own town for psionics, a town without > skeptics like normal people, where their children might > grow up in a natural environment for developing their > abilities. > > Anyway, the question of location came up and this > post was sent: > ---------- > > ok, there is a town of %100 mediums some where in the U.S. I have tried to > > locate them but my memory is rusty. I had no luck, please if anyone out > > there can find them or knows where they are. I propose we move right next > > to them. > > I understand why you might feel that's a good idea, but personally I would > probably go postal on them in short order. I really don't like entities > around ALL OVER THE PLACE bothering me. And they tend to hang around people > who let them use their bodies. > ---------- > > Maybe somewhere in Australia is there a lot of entities hanging around Scott > Hill? Yeah, it's called Melbourne! ;-) Craig -- The sure way to make a thing impossible- -is to think it so. --- Franklin To respond, delete _nospam_ scrappy@_nospam_netconnect.com.au -- ###### From: dromero@no.spam.roanoke.infi.bet (Douglas J. Romero ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: 23 Jan 1999 15:41:31 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 36 Message-ID: <78cqjb$u5f$3@nw001t.infi.net> References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-173.roanoke.infi.net X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.16 for Newton Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no end. In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide wrote: > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > But I sounds rather logical..... > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > Cheers, > Lars > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > Rob > The DoggieMon -- Douglas J. Romero, MD University of Virginia Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ###### From: dromero@no.spam.roanoke.infi.bet (Douglas J. Romero ) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies Date: 23 Feb 1999 11:51:40 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 36 Message-ID: <7au4oc$k84$3@nw001t.infi.net> References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-190.roanoke.infi.net X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.18 for Newton Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no end. In message <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no>, Lars Foleide wrote: > > > I have heard that people swap bodies for a day, and people that > swap bodies, but doesn't make it back to their own.... > > Weather it is true or not, I don't know... > But I sounds rather logical..... > I mean, you leave your body and take another... > > > Cheers, > Lars > > Rob Hall wrote: > > > This may be a rather silly question, but is it possible to have an OOB and > > project yourself into another person's body? Following that train of > > thought, can two people swap bodies? If so is this dangerous? > > > > I haven't had an OOB since childhood (since my church said it is demonic) > > but have recently revived my interest. > > > > Rob > The DoggieMon -- Douglas J. Romero, MD University of Virginia Salem.-Roanoke Psychiatry Program ###### Message-ID: <36D2E35D.B198B874@netparadise.no> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:20:29 +0000 From: Lars Foleide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Swap bodies References: <365A7A07.DECBC310@netparadise.no> <7au4oc$k84$3@nw001t.infi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p32.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p32.telia.com Lines: 11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: chonsp.franklin.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed1.telia.no!d2o204.telia.com!t8o204p32.telia.com I have to this message before. Several months ago. Starting to wonder if this is an automated message that have been caught in a loop. Lars Douglas J. Romero wrote: > Can you provide the source of the (USC report Lars. This intriges me to no > end.