From: "johndoe" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 26 Jul 1998 18:03:42 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.70.9.239 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my astral body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop them from fading so i can have an obe??? ###### From: Wells Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:53:04 -0600 Organization: Toe Goblins, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: wellsdsp@sk.sympatico.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: nbfrsk02d02070116.sk.sympatico.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!island.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!dragon.sk.sympatico.ca!news Reply in the ng! The same thing happens to me too! :-) Miragio johndoe wrote: > Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. > When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for > about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my astral > body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop > them from fading so i can have an obe??? ###### From: Wells Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:37:20 -0600 Organization: Toe Goblins, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <35BBCBC0.5B3F4DCF@sk.sympatico.ca> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca> <6pggfh$t7g$1@news-2.news.gte.net> Reply-To: wellsdsp@sk.sympatico.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: nbfrsk02d02050112.sk.sympatico.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.172.150.11!news1.bellglobal.com!dragon.sk.sympatico.ca!news So, let my mind wander/think about something else? That's the only way I can forget I'm breathing if someone mentions it. I'll try that tonight. If the vibrations decide they like me. :-) Trish wrote: > Wells wrote in message <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca>... > >Reply in the ng! The same thing happens to me too! :-) > > > >Miragio > > > >johndoe wrote: > > > >> Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. > >> When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for > >> about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my > astral > >> body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop > >> them from fading so i can have an obe??? > > > > > > > > Sounds like you're becoming "too" aware of them and waking yourself up > completely. Try keeping a relaxed "peripheral" awareness of them. > In a manner .. allow them to happen, but keep yourself detached emotionally. > Just as you know that you are breathing, but you don't have to think about > it for it to happen. > > Greetings from Florida .................... > Trish > capuchin@gte.net > silencexx@hotmail.com ###### From: "Trish" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:13:44 -0400 Organization: gte.net Lines: 31 Message-ID: <6pggfh$t7g$1@news-2.news.gte.net> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust250.tnt3.new-port-richey.fl.gt.uu.net X-Auth: D51197120580CD9A17C78491 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.giganews.com!worldfeed.gte.net!newsfeed.gte.net!newsfeed2.gte.net.MISMATCH!news.gte.net!not-for-mail Wells wrote in message <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca>... >Reply in the ng! The same thing happens to me too! :-) > >Miragio > >johndoe wrote: > >> Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. >> When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for >> about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my astral >> body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop >> them from fading so i can have an obe??? > > > Sounds like you're becoming "too" aware of them and waking yourself up completely. Try keeping a relaxed "peripheral" awareness of them. In a manner .. allow them to happen, but keep yourself detached emotionally. Just as you know that you are breathing, but you don't have to think about it for it to happen. Greetings from Florida .................... Trish capuchin@gte.net silencexx@hotmail.com ###### From: "Trish" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:54:06 -0400 Organization: gte.net Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6pgps7$19k$1@news-2.news.gte.net> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <35BB7B10.1F973437@sk.sympatico.ca> <6pggfh$t7g$1@news-2.news.gte.net> <35BBCBC0.5B3F4DCF@sk.sympatico.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust29.tnt1.new-port-richey.fl.gt.uu.net X-Auth: D511970510DFCDDF19CB8491 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldfeed.gte.net!newsfeed.gte.net!newsfeed2.gte.net.MISMATCH!news.gte.net!not-for-mail Wells wrote in message <35BBCBC0.5B3F4DCF@sk.sympatico.ca>... >So, let my mind wander/think about something else? That's the only way I can >forget I'm breathing if someone mentions it. I'll try that tonight. If the >vibrations decide they like me. :-) You can notice it ... but don't dwell on thinking about it. Like the difference between glancing at something and openly staring at something. Good Luck. Greetings from Florida .................... Trish capuchin@gte.net silencexx@hotmail.com ###### From: DELAIR Cyril Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:47:33 +0200 Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 9 Message-ID: <35BCBD35.29E6@club-internet.fr> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: romrol@club-internet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: bourg-en-bresse3-42.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: front3.grolier.fr 901562321 25333 195.36.142.42 (27 Jul 1998 17:58:41 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jul 1998 17:58:41 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.59.152.222!news-peer.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!oleane!news1.isdnet.net!grolier!not-for-mail johndoe wrote: > > Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. > When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for > about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my astral > body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop > them from fading so i can have an obe??? It was the same thing for me and after, i did my first OOBE... you are on the right way... ###### Message-ID: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:42:14 -0700 From: Beth Reply-To: oberoberts@uswest.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: jdialup134.slkc.uswest.net X-Trace: 11 Aug 1998 00:32:27 +0500, jdialup134.slkc.uswest.net Lines: 16 X-Report: Report abuse to abuse@uswest.net. Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!gulfsouth.verio.net!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!newsfeed2.uswest.net!newsfeed1.uswest.net!news1.uswest.net!jdialup134.slkc.uswest.net WRKCMPMGR wrote: > Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've > done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting > techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of > "Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire > and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric > energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John Now this is interesting. What do you do with this copper wire anyway? Beth ###### From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 11 Aug 1998 03:48:00 GMT Organization: SpiritOne Internet 503-240-8200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> References: <6pfr1u$f30@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.139.108.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 902807280 CTYA.ZJBS6C02CD8BC usenet57.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: johndoe X-Trace-ISP: 902807279 31183 205.139.109.75 znk7/F20207:ryyvfba X-Complaints-To-ISP: abuse@spiritone.com Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail Here is what I found to be true for me. The vibrations seemed to be going away as well for me and what a disappointment. About a week later, after not obtaining any OBE's during that time and feeling pretty gloomy, I decided the next time the vibes came I'd just try to get OBE asap after they began. When it happened, I tried thinking *float out*. Nothing! I decided I blew it and just rolled over in bed. I rolled over & ha! I rolled right out of my body and was air born. Surprise. I was OBE. I hovered over my body and decided to take a long look at it. There I (my body) lay sound asleep. Zap! in a flash I took off through the ceiling. All those days I let slip by thinking the vibrations had left me, when they actually had fine tuned to the point of being so *very even* they just SEEMED to be gone. They were there all along. Instead of the vibrations being raw and wild and extremely noticeable like in the beginning, they were at such an even rate, that they disappeared to my way of thinking. They were still there! HTH. Jan johndoe wrote: > Can someone e-mail me the answer to this question. > When ever i do the interupted sleep techinque i get the vibrations for > about 30 sec. then they just fade and nothing happens, i can fell my astral > body try to leave, why do my vibrations fade away and why how can i stop > them from fading so i can have an obe??? ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 6 Message-ID: <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 Aug 1998 04:17:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of "Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John ###### From: "Trish" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:57:29 -0400 Organization: gte.net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6qpb8o$1g0$1@news-1.news.gte.net> References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: "Trish" NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust63.tnt1.new-port-richey.fl.gt.uu.net X-Auth: D51080175B87CDDF47908491 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.251.127.50!worldfeed.gte.net!newsfeed.gte.net!newsfeed2.gte.net.MISMATCH!news.gte.net!not-for-mail WRKCMPMGR wrote in message <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've >done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting >techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of >"Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire >and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric >energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John Hey you. : ) Glad you made it. BTW, below is my new AOL name. .................................................... Trish AIM: trishmunk1 capuchin@gte.net capuchin2@hotmail.com .............................................................. ###### From: "Calvin Finch" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:30:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.165.118.14 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 04:30:24 EDT Organization: Bell Solutions Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone.news.idirect.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news21.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail WRKCMPMGR wrote in message <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've >done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting >techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of >"Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire >and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric >energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John Sounds interesting. What do they do and how do you make them? ###### From: "Daan van Yperen" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:35:27 +0200 Organization: bART Internet Services Message-ID: <6qqcch$t58$1@news.bart.net> References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s31.denhaag.bart.nl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Lines: 21 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!oleane!newsfeed.nacamar.de!ayres.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newshub.bart.net!news.bart.net!not-for-mail WRKCMPMGR wrote in message <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've >done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting >techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of >"Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire >and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric >energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John Could you enlighten me a little bit? I imagine myself wrapping tinfoil around my head but i don't think thats what you mean. Goodnight!, Daan van Yperen daan.van.yperen@hempseed.com http://members.xoom.com/dyper ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 15 Message-ID: <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 Aug 1998 14:20:11 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >Now this is interesting. What do you do with this copper wire anyway? > >Beth Hi Beth, Biocircuits blance and magnify the body's natural energy and provide a strong and direct experience of life force, and frequently induce an intelligent trance which can facilitate OOBE's. By connecting 6" copper screens with copper wire (I use 3 sets) you can use them in different combinations to move your body's energy. You can actually feel it move! You can use them for relaxation, to facilitate healing or out of body adventures. They can also be used between two people at the same time to move energy between bodies. They are really amazing, easy to make, and once you have them, they will go everywhere with you! Want more info on how to make them or anecdotal stories, let me know........John ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 10 Message-ID: <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 Aug 1998 14:28:13 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi Calvin, Biocircuits allow you to more effectively monitor and move the energy through your body. You can feel the vibration! Easy enough to make........You need some 6" X 6" copper screens (2 per set) connect each pair with copper wire......On one 6 X 6, run a wire off each side of the screen, and connect each wire to a piece of copper tubing so that you can use them to hold on to. That's the basics...........then you align the screens on the floor, so taht when you lie on them, they are at different chi points.............. Want more info, let me know.......John ###### From: stonelvr@aol.com (StoneLvr) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 22 Message-ID: <1998081115065100.LAA09771@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 Aug 1998 15:06:51 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >Biocircuits blance and magnify the body's natural energy and provide a >strong and direct experience of life force, and frequently induce an >intelligent trance which can facilitate OOBE's. By connecting 6" copper >screens with copper wire (I use 3 sets) you can use them in different >combinations to move your body's energy. You can actually feel it move! You >can use them for relaxation, to facilitate healing or out of body adventures. > >They can also be used between two people at the same time to move energy >between bodies. They are really amazing, easy to make, and once you have >them, >they will go everywhere with you! Want more info on how to make them or >anecdotal stories, let me know........John > > > > I would love to find out more about this John please forward the information to me . Thanks, Irene ###### From: "Trish" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:39:51 -0400 Organization: gte.net Lines: 31 Message-ID: <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> References: <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: "Trish" NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust42.tnt3.new-port-richey.fl.gt.uu.net X-Auth: D51081001587CDDA41C38491 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.251.127.50!worldfeed.gte.net!newsfeed.gte.net!newsfeed2.gte.net.MISMATCH!news.gte.net!not-for-mail WRKCMPMGR wrote in message <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >Hi Calvin, > > Biocircuits allow you to more effectively monitor and move the energy >through your body. You can feel the vibration! Easy enough to make........You >need some 6" X 6" copper screens (2 per set) connect each pair with copper >wire......On one 6 X 6, run a wire off each side of the screen, and connect >each wire to a piece of copper tubing so that you can use them to hold on to. > That's the basics...........then you align the screens on the floor, so taht >when you lie on them, they are at different chi points.............. Want >more info, let me know.......John Ok .. here's a question .. Why copper? .................................................... Trish AIM: trishmunk1 capuchin@gte.net capuchin2@hotmail.com .............................................................. ###### From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 12 Aug 1998 03:16:09 GMT Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 36 Message-ID: <6qr1dp$d62@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com> <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: clv-oh42-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Aug 11 10:16:09 PM CDT 1998 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!ix.netcom.com!news In <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> "Trish" writes: > > >WRKCMPMGR wrote in message ><1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >>Hi Calvin, >> >> Biocircuits allow you to more effectively monitor and move the >>energy through your body. You can feel the vibration! Easy enough >>to make........You need some 6" X 6" copper screens (2 per set) >>connect each pair with copper wire......On one 6 X 6, run a wire off >>each side of the screen, and connect each wire to a piece of copper >>tubing so that you can use them to hold on to. >> That's the basics...........then you align the screens on the floor, >>so taht when you lie on them, they are at different >>chi points.............. >>Want >>more info, let me know.......John >Ok .. here's a question .. > >Why copper? > >.................................................... Trish Cheaper than gold... I guess you are asking "why can't a different metal be used for the mesh since most bare metal screen is steel?". Good question. Bart ###### From: Tim Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:42:55 +0100 Organization: MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Message-ID: <35D17FBF.167E@sanger.ac.uk> References: <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com> <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fes4.sanger.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) Lines: 11 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!btnet-peer!btnet!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!delos!server1.netnews.ja.net!pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!not-for-mail Trish wrote: > Ok .. here's a question .. > > Why copper? Isn't copper supposed to be a good conducter of chi/energy. It is used by some people to relieve the pain of arthritis ie;some say blocked chi Tim. ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 10 Message-ID: <1998081213575700.JAA11719@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:57:57 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hey Trish, In theory, biocircuits can be built from a wid range of materials. I have a set of copper and a set of silk. In general, copper seems to work on a grosser level of life energy, silk on a subtler level. Coper has a more srresistable, balancing effect. It also realigns the physical body with the relatively gross etheric energy most closely associated with physical processes. The biocircuit effect with silk is far more subtle. A steroeo makes a good metaphor here: it is as if copper has a wonderfully strong "bass response", while silk offers an exquisite "high end". Because copper is easy to feel, I recommend it to most beginning biocircuit users..........John ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1998081214102100.KAA12844@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:10:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6qqcch$t58$1@news.bart.net> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Hi Daan, Well, Tin foil hats may work for some things, but this is just a bit different. Basically, these devices are squares of material @ 6'X6" made from copper screen or silk (my favorites), connected by copper wires. The mesh screens are placed on the floor, positioned so that when you lie on them, one is at the base of your spine, and the other under your head. Then by crossing your left ankle over your right ankle, and grasping the lead wires from the mesh screens, you body's bioelectric energy runs through the completed circuit which you have made.........and hence, you can actually feel and alter the vibrational flow..........John ###### From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 12 Aug 1998 21:51:52 GMT Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6qt2po$f8p@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clv-oh39-41.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Aug 12 4:51:52 PM CDT 1998 Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-fra.maz.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news In <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> "Lars Rune Foleide" writes: > >Finally something interesting here... Anybody else feel like they just got slapped? Oh well... I guess I've done my fair share of slapping. Bart ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <35CFBD50.5A72F06F@spiritone.com> <1998081104173000.AAA27072@ladder01.news.aol.com> <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:25:06 +0200 Lines: 23 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3105.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3105.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com Message-ID: <35d20785.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!uninett.no!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o204.telia.com!t6o204p51.telia.com Beth wrote in message <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net>... >> Hi folks. I've been enjoying your conversation for about a week now. I've >> done a bit of work with Lucid Dreams, OOBE's and some other interesting >> techniques over the years, and a tool which I find very helpful is a set of >> "Biocircuits". They are easy to make out of simple copper screen, copper wire >> and copper tubing. The really help with handling the body's bioelectric >> energy. If anyone is interested, let me know................John > >Now this is interesting. What do you do with this copper wire anyway? > > I'm interested too. Radionics is right up my alley.... Cheers, Lars ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:36:21 +0200 Lines: 29 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3105.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3105.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com Message-ID: <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!uninett.no!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o204.telia.com!t6o204p51.telia.com WRKCMPMGR wrote in message > >Hi Beth, > Biocircuits blance and magnify the body's natural energy and provide a >strong and direct experience of life force, and frequently induce an >intelligent trance which can facilitate OOBE's. By connecting 6" copper >screens with copper wire (I use 3 sets) you can use them in different >combinations to move your body's energy. You can actually feel it move! You >can use them for relaxation, to facilitate healing or out of body adventures. >They can also be used between two people at the same time to move energy >between bodies. They are really amazing, easy to make, and once you have them, >they will go everywhere with you! Want more info on how to make them or >anecdotal stories, let me know........John Finally something interesting here... If you want a more powerful wire should you try Keely's wire. Called Trexar wire, made out of silver, platinum and gold. Or for a cheaper solution should you try a zinc wire.. Looking forward to more info... Lars ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <1998081114281300.KAA05885@ladder01.news.aol.com> <6qquvo$4ac$1@news-1.news.gte.net> <35D17FBF.167E@sanger.ac.uk> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 02:13:39 +0200 Lines: 23 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3105.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3105.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t6o204p51.telia.com Message-ID: <35d22f05.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-stkh.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o204.telia.com!t6o204p51.telia.com Tim wrote in message <35D17FBF.167E@sanger.ac.uk>... >Trish wrote: > >> Ok .. here's a question .. >> >> Why copper? > >Isn't copper supposed to be a good conductor of chi/energy. It is used >by some people to relieve the pain of arthritis i.e.;some say blocked chi > It works as an orgone conductor. Orgone energy if found in large doses in chakras and around the body too. But if you are looking for the best orgone conductor, then you should try Keely's wire... Cheers, Lars ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1998081303580500.XAA01744@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 13 Aug 1998 03:58:04 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >If you want a more powerful wire should you try Keely's wire. >Called Trexar wire, made out of silver, platinum and gold. Lars, Please tell me more of the Trexar wire. It sounds like a perfect conductive wire to use for "Co-operative Circuits" in which two or more people are wired together or even for Substance BioCircuitry which allows you to insert a liquid into a biocircuitry via a specimen bottle. This technique allows your own life energy current to flow through a chosen substance and then back into your energy field, without contamination by external electrical or magnetic signals.............John ###### From: dromero@roanoke.infi.net (Douglas J. Romero) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:06:07 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 31 Message-ID: <6qudqf$bds$5@nw001t.infi.net> References: <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-72.roanoke.infi.net X-Newsreader: Ink Spot 1.16 for Newton Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail In message <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com>, wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) wrote: > > >Now this is interesting. What do you do with this copper wire anyway? > > > >Beth > > Hi Beth, > Biocircuits blance and magnify the body's natural energy and provide a > strong and direct experience of life force, and frequently induce an > intelligent trance which can facilitate OOBE's. By connecting 6" copper > screens with copper wire (I use 3 sets) you can use them in different > combinations to move your body's energy. You can actually feel it move! You > can use them for relaxation, to facilitate healing or out of body adventures. > They can also be used between two people at the same time to move energy > between bodies. They are really amazing, easy to make, and once you have them, > they will go everywhere with you! Want more info on how to make them or > anecdotal stories, let me know........John I would be most interested in this topic. Please post some more references in the newsgroup. Douglas J. Romero, MD Unirersity of Virginia Roanoke-Salem Psychiatry Program email: dromero@roanoke.infi.net ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> <6qt2po$f8p@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:48:14 +0200 Lines: 33 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3105.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3105.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: t4o204p29.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t4o204p29.telia.com Message-ID: <35d2fcf0.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o204.telia.com!t4o204p29.telia.com Bart Scott wrote in message <6qt2po$f8p@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>... > >>Finally something interesting here... > >Anybody else feel like they just got slapped? > >Oh well... I guess I've done my fair share of slapping. > >Bart > Sorry, I have lately been VERY interested in radionics, psionics, orgone energy, and time machines. These devices can be used for everything from time travel to remote viewing. Well, a lot more actually. Free energy is one.... ...and materialization.... Normal OBE isn't my prior interest anymore. It comes close up second.... But all this is very related so.... Regards, Lars P.S. Anyone that wants "proof" on physical time/space travel should look up "The Philadelphia Experiment" and "The Montauk Project". Both projects conducted by the American government. ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil Franklin Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: 13 Aug 1998 22:12:35 +0200 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> <6qt2po$f8p@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <35d2fcf0.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 "Lars Rune Foleide" writes: > > Anyone that wants "proof" on physical time/space travel should look up > "The Philadelphia Experiment" and "The Montauk Project". > Both projects conducted by the American government. Oh Lars, thanks for an other big laugh. My favourite mysteries lexicon (its author John spencer is chairman if the British UFO society, member of the Ghost Club and the SPR) has following to say about the Philadelphia Experiment: If ever there was a highly fascianating, enduring mystery based on ridicilously suspect sources it is the P E. No amount of lack of substance in the claims for this mystery seem to deter ardent fans and believers who find it, presumably both fascinating and entertaining. He goes then on to citate from am book: Anatomy of an Hoax by Jaques Vallee. In the end he traces the story back to experiments to make iron ships _magnetically_ invisible* to magnetism detonated mines in the WWII. * By subjecting them to an large AC driven electromagnet, essentially the same thing the degauss feature on computer monitors does. -- home: Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ work: franklin@arch.ethz.ch.remove http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ *** It's true ! I read it on Usenet and the Web ! *** ###### From: "Lars Rune Foleide" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body References: <35CFE7C6.15EE98B1@pop.slkc.uswest.net> <1998081114201100.KAA13580@ladder03.news.aol.com> <35d20a28.0@d2o204.telia.com> <6qt2po$f8p@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <35d2fcf0.0@d2o204.telia.com> Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:40:41 +0200 Lines: 28 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3105.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3105.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p51.telia.com X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t8o204p51.telia.com Message-ID: <35d36abd.0@d2o204.telia.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.no Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-raspail.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o204.telia.com!t8o204p51.telia.com Neil Franklin wrote in message ... > >Oh Lars, thanks for an other big laugh. > Maybe for you.... I find it more interesting.... >My favorite mysteries lexicon (its author John Spencer is chairman >if the British UFO society, member of the Ghost Club and the SPR) has >following to say about the Philadelphia Experiment: > >If ever there was a highly fascinating, enduring mystery based on >ridiculously suspect sources it is the P E. No amount of lack of >substance in the claims for this mystery seem to deter ardent fans and >believers who find it, presumably both fascinating and entertaining. > >He goes then on to citrate from am book: Anatomy of an Hoax by Jaques >Vallee. > > >In the end he traces the story back to experiments to make iron ships >_magnetically_ invisible* to magnetism detonated mines in the WWII. > >* By subjecting them to an large AC driven electromagnet, essentially >the same thing the degauss feature on computer monitors does. > ###### From: wrkcmpmgr@aol.com (WRKCMPMGR) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: why do my vibrations go away?? Lines: 20 Message-ID: <1998081402552700.WAA07901@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 14 Aug 1998 02:55:27 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6qudqf$bds$5@nw001t.infi.net> Path: ccw.ch!pfaff.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail >I would be most interested in this topic. Please post some more references >in the newsgroup. >Douglas J. Romero, MD >Unirersity of Virginia >Roanoke-Salem Psychiatry Program Hi Doc, Your interest does not at all surprise me, and I will be happy to share any of my own work, as well as point you in the direction of additional resources. For starters, you might want to try "Vibrational Medicine: New Choices for Healing Ourselves", Gerber, R., M.D., Santa Fe, N.M.: Bear, 1988 There is also a nice double-blind study done by Dr. Julian Isaacs of the John F. Kennedy University. This study was published in the journal of the Intl. Society for the Study of Subtle Energy and Energy Medicine. The Stanford University Sleep Disorder Center under Wm Dement, M.D. and Stephen LaBerge, PhD are also valuabe resources. I've got lot's more, including a good friend, and colleague who is a psychiatrist who initially introduced me to the biocircuits a number of years ago, who has had great success with them in his practice......................John