From: "Lars Rune Foleide" <larsrune@sf.telia.no>
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Subject: Time Travel and Teleportation
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I have found more info on that $360 Time Travel Machine

While browsing on this link did I find a link called "Time Travel"
http://paranormal.miningco.com/

More details on this machine can be found here:
http://home.inreach.com/dov/tt.htm

This Steve Gibbs seems to be an experienced time traveler...

Note that precognitive dreams is evidence on that time travel is possible.


Also found some very interesting info on Teleportation:

http://www.sciam.com/explorations/122297teleport/index.html

http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/newse/dec/beam.html



And I have found out that Astral Projection is about tuning in to the
Earth resonance (7.83 Hz).

You need to get your brain frequency down to 7.83 Hz and you also need
to be in phase. (From 0 degrees to 180 degrees)

I also suspect that psychics have an abnormally high theta activity at 7.83
Hz.

How on earth time travel is possible remains to be discovered.
For know can we play around with the 4 Th dimension.

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In article <35a8d18f.0@d2o204.telia.com>, "Lars Rune Foleide"
<larsrune@sf.telia.no> writes:

(I can't believe all the STUFF this guy comes up with! <grin> )

>I have found more info on that $360 Time Travel Machine

thanks for the morning chuckle! :-)

>This Steve Gibbs seems to be an experienced time traveler...

we have another name for people like this in the States:  "Snake Oil Salesman."

>Note that precognitive dreams is evidence on that time travel is possible.

NO!  precognitive dreams are evidence that PRECOGNITIVE DREAMS are possible.

>Also found some very interesting info on Teleportation:

ever blow a feather in the wind?

>And I have found out that Astral Projection is about tuning in to the
>Earth resonance (7.83 Hz).

>You need to get your brain frequency down to 7.83 Hz and you also need
>to be in phase. (From 0 degrees to 180 degrees)

I've heard this as well, and found it to be helpful, but not mandatory.
other than that, my frequency is, well... darned near virginal! <grin>

>How on earth time travel is possible remains to be discovered.
>For [now] can we play around with the 4 Th dimension.

or, we can just get regular jobs, get married, raise families, and die as
happy, well fulfilled people.  In the meantime, we'll have noticed that time
HAS traveled... from the past-present to the future-present.  But we'll still
perceive ourselves as living in the "eternal now".

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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From: Zac <psycho_dude@geocities.com>
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Man Lars!  Where do you keep getting all of these links from?
Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
> 
> I have found more info on that $360 Time Travel Machine
> 
> While browsing on this link did I find a link called "Time Travel"
> http://paranormal.miningco.com/
> 
> More details on this machine can be found here:
> http://home.inreach.com/dov/tt.htm
> 
This page really is hilarious, I especially like the schematic, it
doesn't look anything like any electronics schematic I have ever seen

Here's some stupid crap taken from the page.
Lines with a(*) in front of them are from the page.

*THE HYPER DIMENSIONAL RESONATOR 

*THIS IS A TWO DIAL, ONE BANK TREATMENT INSTRUMENT, WHICH PLUGS INTO A
NORMAL 110V
*OUTLET. THIS DEVICE GENERATES AN AC/DC,
What?  Make up your mind, does it generate AC or DC or are you not sure
so you just put both?

*60-CYCLE, ALTERNATING FREQUENCY 
Sounds like it is a ripoff to me, my wall socket already generates 110V
60Hz AC fine by itself.

*WHICH GENERATES AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF WHITE LIGHT ENERGY.
OK, so it is a lightbulb plugged into the AC outlet, gee, that certainly
sounds worth the 360 dollars they are asking for.

*THIS DEVICE COMES EQUIPPED WITH A WITNESS WELL, PHENOLIC RUBBING PLATE,
MULTI- *DIMENSIONAL STABILIZER, CLEAR SWITCH, POWER SWITCH, TIME COILS,
AND ONE *ELECTROMAGNET. 
Layman's terms here, this is made out of things you can probably get for
ten dollars altogether at Radio Shack and things that don't really
exist, the so called 'time coils' and the electromagnet are probably
nothing more than coils of copper wire.

I hope that you don't seriously believe this Lars! 
-- 
 -Zac

I'm not insane...
....the voices in my head tell me so.

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"Lars Rune Foleide" <larsrune@sf.telia.no> writes:
> I have found more info on that $360 Time Travel Machine

Our resident gadget freak posts again.


> More details on this machine can be found here:
> http://home.inreach.com/dov/tt.htm

What crap that looks. Hey, I've got some free time. <click>

From the Webstite (all lines with <>):
<>PLUGS INTO A NORMAL 110V OUTLET. THIS DEVICE GENERATES AN
<>AC/DC, 60-CYCLE

Funny, I thought that AC outlets did that on their own. (P.S: I am an EE)

<>WHICH GENERATES AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF WHITE LIGHT ENERGY. 

The power grid will like that. Read: Electric short. Bang. Flash.

<>AMONG OTHER THINGS, THIS UNIT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR OUT OF
<>THE BODY TIME TRAVEL

Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.

<>BUT THESE COILS ARE ALSO DESIGNED TO HELP INCREASE THE STICK REACTION

Exacly what Silk is looking for! Something that makes a stick reaction :-).

<>THIS DEVICE WORKS JUST LIKE A RADIONICS MACHINE

I.e. not at all.

<> DOUBLE TERMINATED QUARTZ CRYSTALS

I wonder how the manage to machine quarz to the shape of an BNC
connector to attach them terminators. Or is he not talking about
Ethernet? Just pseudo-techno gibberisch?

<>THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR GUARANTEE ON THESE UNITS

Yup. He wants to get your money, not send it back.

Oh there are also some "schematics". Not real schematics an EE could
make something of. Just a line drawing of the outside of the unit.


Thanks Lars for the great laugh.
Rest of you: Go visit it. Entertainment guaranteed.


> This Steve Gibbs seems to be an experienced time traveler...

Or an experienced swindler.


> Note that precognitive dreams is evidence on that time travel is possible.

Nope. Only of information traveling in time, not of matter doing so.


> http://www.sciam.com/explorations/122297teleport/index.html

SciAm? They are an serious outfit. <click>

<>An experiment confirms that teleportation is possible
<>--at least for photons.

Oh well. Atoms will have to wait.

<>demonstrated independently that it is possible to transfer the
<>properties of one quantum particle

Only the properties, not even the particle. Duh.

<>For now, though, it will be a long time before a real Scotty
<>beams up a living Captain Kirk. 

Seems so to me also.


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In article <m3emvqd7ga.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch>, Neil Franklin
<Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove> writes:

>From the Webstite (all lines with <>):
><>PLUGS INTO A NORMAL 110V OUTLET. THIS DEVICE GENERATES AN
><>AC/DC, 60-CYCLE
>
>Funny, I thought that AC outlets did that on their own. (P.S: I am an EE)

LOL!  I heard you can plug the wires of a large (heavy) enough speaker into a
wall outlet, and hear the 60 hz hum come from them...

><>WHICH GENERATES AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF WHITE LIGHT ENERGY. 
>
>The power grid will like that. Read: Electric short. Bang. Flash.

ROFL!  I've done that myself, when I was about 4 or 5...  I wanted to see what
would happen if I put a U shaped wire into the outlet.  Just like you said: 
Electric short.  "POP!"  Flash!  (acrid smell of ozone wafting up from the
socket...)  How well I remember! :-)  yes, Lars, perhaps there IS something of
"time travel" associated with this device... thanks! :-)

><>AMONG OTHER THINGS, THIS UNIT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR OUT OF
><>THE BODY TIME TRAVEL
>
>Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.

eh... I was lucky...

><>BUT THESE COILS ARE ALSO DESIGNED TO HELP INCREASE THE STICK REACTION
>
>Exacly what Silk is looking for! Something that makes a stick reaction :-).

Yes, but I'd prefer something with large breasts and a nice, wet, (um... ) luv
muffin...

oh! and about those quartz crystals... perhaps they're borrowed from a $5.oo
quartz wrist watch??

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

Richard.Silk@Juno.Com  <text only>
SilkDick@aol.com  <text / file attachments>
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silkdick@aol.com (Silk Dick) writes:
> In article <m3emvqd7ga.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch>, Neil Franklin
> I heard you can plug the wires of a large (heavy) enough speaker into a
> wall outlet, and hear the 60 hz hum come from them...

Not neccessary large and heavy, just with a LOT highter ohm number as
most speakers today have (the ones used by valve based radios from the
1950s would perhaps still go).

Use an modern one and you would get about 15.30A current (bang, that
was the fuse), and so ca 1600..3300W output. That would be an LOUD
speaker. About an better sized open air rock concert actually.


> >The power grid will like that. Read: Electric short. Bang. Flash.
> 
> ROFL!  I've done that myself, when I was about 4 or 5...  I wanted to see what
> would happen if I put a U shaped wire into the outlet.  Just like you said: 
> Electric short.  "POP!"  Flash!  (acrid smell of ozone wafting up from the
> socket...)  How well I remember! :-)

Hmm I did it at abput 10..15 years when I connected the low voltage
cables of my model railway directly without an transformer. 2 dead
engines resulted, and an big bang.

Actually I should add that we have 230V electricity here, so you get
an 4 times bigger bang when you make an short.


> >Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.
> 
> eh... I was lucky...

So was I, appearently. Or are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?


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Neil Franklin wrote:
> 
> silkdick@aol.com (Silk Dick) writes:
> > In article <m3emvqd7ga.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch>, Neil Franklin
> > I heard you can plug the wires of a large (heavy) enough speaker into a
> > wall outlet, and hear the 60 hz hum come from them...
> 
> Not neccessary large and heavy, just with a LOT highter ohm number as
> most speakers today have (the ones used by valve based radios from the
> 1950s would perhaps still go).
> 
> Use an modern one and you would get about 15.30A current (bang, that
> was the fuse), and so ca 1600..3300W output. That would be an LOUD
> speaker. About an better sized open air rock concert actually.
> 
> > >The power grid will like that. Read: Electric short. Bang. Flash.
> >
> > ROFL!  I've done that myself, when I was about 4 or 5...  I wanted to see what
> > would happen if I put a U shaped wire into the outlet.  Just like you said:
> > Electric short.  "POP!"  Flash!  (acrid smell of ozone wafting up from the
> > socket...)  How well I remember! :-)
> 
> Hmm I did it at abput 10..15 years when I connected the low voltage
> cables of my model railway directly without an transformer. 2 dead
> engines resulted, and an big bang.
> 
Yeah, I had a similar thing happen when I was about three, I stuck a key
in the 220 socket and it instantly fused to my hand and threw me against
the wall.  I still have the scars on my left hand.  I was lucky to live
through that one!
> Actually I should add that we have 230V electricity here, so you get
> an 4 times bigger bang when you make an short.
> 
Ouch!

> > >Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.
> >
> > eh... I was lucky...
> 
> So was I, appearently. Or are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?
> 
> --
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-- 
 -Zac

I'm not insane...
....the voices in my head tell me so.

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From: "Lars Rune Foleide" <larsrune@sf.telia.no>
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Zac wrote in message <35A9628B.5BC1@geocities.com>...
>
>I hope that you don't seriously believe this Lars!


I keep an open mind to the opposite is proven....

I got some more links for you:

http://members.tripod.com/~jtooker/index-2.html

http://keelynet.com/time/bajak1.txt

http://keelynet.com/time/emantime.htm
(This story is interesting)

http://keelynet.com/time/cadsmith.htm
(You got to read this one too!)


That's the amount of links you will get today...
maybe I'll have something new tomorrow... :)


Cheers,
Lars

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Bart Scott wrote:

> Hmmm... well, I never really associated OBE or 'psychic' situations
> with getting bitten by electrons, but I've definately gotten popped a
> few times.  The worst so far was with 220 volts coming out of a power
> supply just after the bridge.  BAM!!!  Thought I got hit in the back of
> the head with a 2X4.  It took me several seconds to realize that I had
> actually been shocked instead of someone hitting me.  It wasn't long
> after that when I had my first OBE.  Probably just coincidence...

Now that I think back on this, I remember as a very young girl, probably 4
to 6 years of age, I remember sticking a plugged in extension cord into my
mouth only to be zapped pretty hard. I have since been shocked a few other
times, one time when plugging in a dryer standing on a wet floor and I had
my fingers touching the prongs without realizing it, I went flying
backwards on that one.  Don't want to do that again.  Now my body seems to
have a constant state of static.  I have to be careful around my computer
and I am constantly blowing out light bulbs and other strange things.
This would be an interesting theory to follow up on.

So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
don't you?

Beth

>
>
> I don't tend to break electronic devices (otherwise I couldn't keep my
> job), but I'm pretty good at fixing them - as long as I keep my fingers
> out of power supplies ;-)
>
> I do, however, have a problem with one specific account - it seems to
> be more emotionally related than electronic, even though it is
> electronic in nature.  Every time I fixed something at this account,
> something else would happen the next day and I would get blamed for it.
>  Gradually the customer began to call me a jinx.  Then they finally
> just got so upset about it that they wouldn't let me work on their
> equipment anymore.  I wasn't having any problems like that with anyone
> else - just this one account.  Not only that, but everything else that
> could go wrong would go wrong - like shipping problems and such.
> They've given me a couple of chances over the last 2.5 years - and
> STILL every time I touch their equipment something else breaks the next
> day.  I finally told my boss to not even suggest that I try to get back
> in there and added, "I'm not going back in there without an exorcist.
> The place is just too spooky."
>
> Bart

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>Yeah, I had a similar thing happen when I was about three, I stuck a key
>in the 220 socket and it instantly fused to my hand and threw me against
>the wall.  I still have the scars on my left hand.  I was lucky to live
>through that one!
>> Actually I should add that we have 230V electricity here, so you get
>> an 4 times bigger bang when you make an short.
>> 
>Ouch!
>
>> > >Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.
>> >
>> > eh... I was lucky...
>> 
>> So was I, appearently. Or are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?
>> 
>> --
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>
>-- 
> -Zac

You guys are too funny!!! Comparing who got fried the biggest and the best... 

Stoney

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Bart Scott wrote:
> 
> In <35ab7067.30376875@news.dial.pipex.com> hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com
> (Julia Hawkes-Moore) writes:
> >
> >(StoneLvr) wrote:
> >>You guys are too funny!!! Comparing who got fried the biggest and the
> best...
> >
> >  Wonderful , isn't it. I'm loving every millivolt of it... but then,
> >you know about me and electricity...
> >   Has everyone on this newsgroup (myself included) been seriously
> >electrocuted at some point, then? Is that how we started having OBEs?
> >My next-door neighbour 'met' a UFO when she was 15, and became a
> >trance medium as a result. She thinks that electricity and 'psychic'
> >powers are very allied...
> >  Yippee! I love electricity!
> >JHM
> 
> Hmmm... well, I never really associated OBE or 'psychic' situations
> with getting bitten by electrons, but I've definately gotten popped a
> few times.  The worst so far was with 220 volts coming out of a power
> supply just after the bridge.  BAM!!!  Thought I got hit in the back of
> the head with a 2X4.  It took me several seconds to realize that I had
> actually been shocked instead of someone hitting me.  It wasn't long
> after that when I had my first OBE.  Probably just coincidence...
> 
> I don't tend to break electronic devices (otherwise I couldn't keep my
> job), but I'm pretty good at fixing them - as long as I keep my fingers
> out of power supplies ;-)
> 
> I do, however, have a problem with one specific account - it seems to
> be more emotionally related than electronic, even though it is
> electronic in nature.  Every time I fixed something at this account,
> something else would happen the next day and I would get blamed for it.
>  Gradually the customer began to call me a jinx.  Then they finally
> just got so upset about it that they wouldn't let me work on their
> equipment anymore.  I wasn't having any problems like that with anyone
> else - just this one account.  Not only that, but everything else that
> could go wrong would go wrong - like shipping problems and such.
> They've given me a couple of chances over the last 2.5 years - and
> STILL every time I touch their equipment something else breaks the next
> day.  I finally told my boss to not even suggest that I try to get back
> in there and added, "I'm not going back in there without an exorcist.
> The place is just too spooky."
> 
> Bart

Sometimes you just have all of the luck.  I have a friend who is
'cursed' like this, I could be using the computer for 8 hours straight
and all he has to do is come in and press just one key or move the mouse
and crash my computer so bad that it takes me most of the next day to
set everything back up.

-- 
 -Zac

I'm not insane...
....the voices in my head tell me so.

######

From: Zac <psycho_dude@geocities.com>
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Subject: Re: Time Travel and Teleportation
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Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
> 
> Zac wrote in message <35A9628B.5BC1@geocities.com>...
> >
> >I hope that you don't seriously believe this Lars!
> 
> I keep an open mind to the opposite is proven....
> 
Me too, but there are some things that just seem too strange to belive
without any proof.  I could say that I am really an alien but that
doesn't make it true, it also doesn't mean you should belive me.  You
have to use your own instincts on some things because really most
everyting in the world is subjective rather than objecive.  

I believe that time travel is possible but that it either hasn't been
developed yet or is something that is being researched by the
government.
At any rate, just because something can be done doesn't mean that
everyone who claims to be able to do something actually can.  You should
be especially wary of someone who is trying to sell you something.  A
truely credible researcher in the paranormal would really only try to
sell you on an idea or concept.
> I got some more links for you:
> 
> http://members.tripod.com/~jtooker/index-2.html
> 
> http://keelynet.com/time/bajak1.txt
> 
> http://keelynet.com/time/emantime.htm
> (This story is interesting)
> 
> http://keelynet.com/time/cadsmith.htm
> (You got to read this one too!)
> 
These all seem more credible than the other one, with the exeption of
the last two that seem more like sci-fi stories.  The last one actually
is based on an article from Weekly World News!

> That's the amount of links you will get today...
> maybe I'll have something new tomorrow... :)
> 
Ok, keep 'em coming, I like pondering ideas.
> Cheers,
> Lars

-- 
 -Zac

I'm not insane...
....the voices in my head tell me so.

######

From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore)
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(StoneLvr) wrote:
>You guys are too funny!!! Comparing who got fried the biggest and the best... 

  Wonderful , isn't it. I'm loving every millivolt of it... but then,
you know about me and electricity... 
   Has everyone on this newsgroup (myself included) been seriously
electrocuted at some point, then? Is that how we started having OBEs?
My next-door neighbour 'met' a UFO when she was 15, and became a
trance medium as a result. She thinks that electricity and 'psychic'
powers are very allied...
  Yippee! I love electricity!
JHM 

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From: J L Williams <j.l.williams@zetnet.co.uk>
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The message <1998071412143400.IAA11379@ladder03.news.aol.com>
  from  stonelvr@aol.com (StoneLvr) contains these words: 
Hi Jim here, yes I know this is off topic but..
                                                                    
well well well, sounds like we are all brothers heh heh.  I did this 
but was 7 yo, ok ok so I was late developing (my excuse anyway). But 
at least I did it a little more safely - I used one of those tin 
wheelbarrows that come in Christmas crackers. Stuck the 2 handles 
inside the end of the electric kettle lead - with the switch in the 
off position !!!   Then with the lead at it's maximum length away 
from me put the switch on------ BANG & FLASH!!!  Course I did not 
know it but the fuse blew. I found this out when mother came in to 
make tea later in the day. Oh the good  old days............?

> >Yeah, I had a similar thing happen when I was about three, I stuck a key
> >in the 220 socket and it instantly fused to my hand and threw me against
> >the wall.  I still have the scars on my left hand.  I was lucky to live
> >through that one!
> >> Actually I should add that we have 230V electricity here, so you get
> >> an 4 times bigger bang when you make an short.
> >> 
> >Ouch!
> >
> >> > >Yep. Permanent OBE, also known as electrocution.
> >> >
> >> > eh... I was lucky...
> >> 
> >> So was I, appearently. Or are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?
> >> 
> >> --
> >> private: Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/
> >> office: franklin@arch.ethz.ch.remove http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/
> >> WinCE car, crashing soon on a road near you
> >
> >-- 
> > -Zac

> You guys are too funny!!! Comparing who got fried the biggest and the best... 

> Stoney

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From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott)
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In <35ab7067.30376875@news.dial.pipex.com> hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com
(Julia Hawkes-Moore) writes: 
>
>(StoneLvr) wrote:
>>You guys are too funny!!! Comparing who got fried the biggest and the
best... 
>
>  Wonderful , isn't it. I'm loving every millivolt of it... but then,
>you know about me and electricity... 
>   Has everyone on this newsgroup (myself included) been seriously
>electrocuted at some point, then? Is that how we started having OBEs?
>My next-door neighbour 'met' a UFO when she was 15, and became a
>trance medium as a result. She thinks that electricity and 'psychic'
>powers are very allied...
>  Yippee! I love electricity!
>JHM 

Hmmm... well, I never really associated OBE or 'psychic' situations
with getting bitten by electrons, but I've definately gotten popped a
few times.  The worst so far was with 220 volts coming out of a power
supply just after the bridge.  BAM!!!  Thought I got hit in the back of
the head with a 2X4.  It took me several seconds to realize that I had
actually been shocked instead of someone hitting me.  It wasn't long
after that when I had my first OBE.  Probably just coincidence...

I don't tend to break electronic devices (otherwise I couldn't keep my
job), but I'm pretty good at fixing them - as long as I keep my fingers
out of power supplies ;-)

I do, however, have a problem with one specific account - it seems to
be more emotionally related than electronic, even though it is
electronic in nature.  Every time I fixed something at this account,
something else would happen the next day and I would get blamed for it.
 Gradually the customer began to call me a jinx.  Then they finally
just got so upset about it that they wouldn't let me work on their
equipment anymore.  I wasn't having any problems like that with anyone
else - just this one account.  Not only that, but everything else that
could go wrong would go wrong - like shipping problems and such. 
They've given me a couple of chances over the last 2.5 years - and
STILL every time I touch their equipment something else breaks the next
day.  I finally told my boss to not even suggest that I try to get back
in there and added, "I'm not going back in there without an exorcist. 
The place is just too spooky."

Bart

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From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore)
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 Beth <oberoberts@pop.slkc.uswest.net> wrote:
>So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
>shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
>don't you?

  I did post about this before, but I will recap:
   When my sister and I were aged 4 and 6 we had a wonderful game for
about a fortnight. After bedtime, we took it in turns to bounce on my
sister's bed high enough to touch our tongues onto the exposed ends of
an electric cable from a removed wall-light which stuck out of the
wall. My father had put insulating tape around it, but it had
unravelled at the tip. Each 'touch' threw us backwards onto the bed,
and we giggled with joy before doing it again. Lovely. A miracle we
both survived, really. Any heavier or taller, and we could have
touched the wall or the bed. We must have done it thirty or forty
times before my father put a new light fitting up. I remember being
very disappointed with that new light. My sister and I were both
'strange' for the rest of our lives, but I suspect we must have been
born that way to do this in the first place!
JHM 

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From: Glyn <glyn@flyers.demon.co.uk>
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In article <35ABA30A.ED853E77@pop.slkc.uswest.net>, Beth <oberoberts@pop
.slkc.uswest.net> writes
>So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
>shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
>don't you?
>
>Beth
>
When I was a kid I touched a bar on our electric fire that had stopped
glowing. I remember feeling a big jolt and being thrown back about 5
feet, landing on my back.

I haven't noticed that I upset electrical equipment, but I've always had
trouble with wristwatches running slow or stopping...whether that's
anything to do with it I don't know. I can't remember if it was before I
had my first out-of-body type experience though.
-- 
Regards,
Glyn

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From: Linda Stead <lstead@jeffnet.org>
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Beth wrote:
> 
> So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
> shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
> don't you?
> 

Not I,  Carlos Castenada triggered my first LD experience.  It was only
long and hard study and determination which brought about OOBE ability
for me.

ls

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From: stonelvr@aol.com (StoneLvr)
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 Julia wrote:
> Has everyone on this newsgroup (myself included) been seriously
>electrocuted at some point, then? Is that how we started having OBEs?
>My next-door neighbour 'met' a UFO when she was 15, and became a
>trance medium as a result. She thinks that electricity and 'psychic'
>powers are very allied...
>  Yippee! I love electricity!
>JHM 

Julia ,

     I really don't know? I don't recall getting "fried" so to speak , matter
of fact I have this intense fear of being struck by lightening.... no joke when
it's bolting out there my butt's in the house LOL!  It makes my hair stand on
end.  Wonder if perhaps it's something that's been blocked in me.

Stone

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From: silkdick@aol.com (Silk Dick)
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In article <m34swl1thq.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch>, Neil Franklin
<Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove> writes:

[silk wrote]
>>I heard you can plug the wires of a large (heavy) enough speaker into a
>> wall outlet, and hear the 60 hz hum come from them...
>
>Not neccessary large and heavy, just with a LOT highter ohm number as
>most speakers today have (the ones used by valve based radios from the
>1950s would perhaps still go).

I was thinking of those JBL studio monitors, with the 30 lb magnets...

[English 101b]:

>engines resulted, and an big bang.

(assuming you're not American...)
use the word "an" before all words starting with vowels, "a,e,i,o, and u."
use the word "a" before all others (consonants) with the rare exceptions of
some words starting with "h".

For instance:  "an apple is a tasty treat for an honorable appetite."   :-)' 
the word "honorable" sounds like "ON-r-a-bul", so the "ON" sound gets the
"an"...
an ON switch is different from an OFF or a closed switch.

>are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?

PLEASE don't ask!  (SHHHHhhhh!!! no body mention s.hill!  leave him be!)
but... if you hear from Earl Curley, let us know, eh?

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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In article <35aaa509.0@d2o204.telia.com>, "Lars Rune Foleide"
<larsrune@sf.telia.no> writes:

>I keep an open mind to the opposite is proven....

you realize, of course, don't you?  That NEGATIVE infinity exists?  also,
negative INVERSE infinity, that is, (-1)/infinity  ?

why fill your mind with things that may be FALSE??????????  when you could be
SO much more selective, and ONLY allow things you've PROVEN to YOURSELF to be
TRUE!?

the QUALITY of the CONTENTS of your mind would improve TREMENDOUSLY! :-)
after all, GIGO!!!  (Garbage In, Garbage Out!)

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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In article <35ab7067.30376875@news.dial.pipex.com>, hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com
(Julia Hawkes-Moore) writes:

>  Has everyone on this newsgroup (myself included) been seriously
>electrocuted at some point, then?

I was struck by lightning a while back...

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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In article <35ABA30A.ED853E77@pop.slkc.uswest.net>, Beth
<oberoberts@pop.slkc.uswest.net> writes:

>Now that I think back on this, I remember as a very young girl, probably 4
>to 6 years of age, I remember sticking a plugged in extension cord into my
>mouth only to be zapped pretty hard.

oh SHIT!! :-)  you were a really horny lil' girl, weren't you? :-)'

talk about your ORAL fixations!   with an ELECTRIC cord, no less!
:-O=~~~~~<  

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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In article <6og1ri$6e3@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart
Scott) writes:

> "I'm not going back in there without an exorcist.  The place is just too
spooky."

or "sparky", perhaps? }>:-)


Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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From: gailpark2@aol.com (Gail Park2)
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Ok, I was shocked a lot growing up...
I had my first OOBE at age 14.  For as long as I can remember my brother was
facinated with electricity, and practical jokes.  He is older (and wiser I
might add) than I.  I remember several times when I was 5 or 6 years old, he
told me to do things like put my finger in empty light sockets etc.  Of course
being so young and naive I did what he told me to do.  When I was around 8 he
hooked up a metal box (a fishing tackel box or perhaps a tool box I suppose) to
electricity somehow without my knowing.  He then told me he was leaving the
house and showed me the box and told me that the contents of the box were
private, so I should not look inside.  Of course being 10 years old and as
curious as I was ...I did try to open the box and got quite a big jolt for my
effort.  I never really thought there might be a connection between being
shocked and OOBEs.  Probably a lot more people have been shocked than have
experienced OOBEs...but being much older now, and still curious....   :)
gailpark2@aol.com

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From: Ken Czepelka <kenc@soundsculpture.com>
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Julia Hawkes-Moore wrote:

>   Unless they live in Leeds, UK, where it has happened to every single
> one of the population. That's why nobody living wants to live in
> Leeds. I know, I lived in Tadcaster until I died and went to
> Herefordshire Heaven!

Ah, the real truth behind The Who's "Live at Leeds".

Ken

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From: Ken Czepelka <kenc@soundsculpture.com>
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Hmmmm...Maybe you're on to something here.  When I was 3 years old, I
was sitting in front of an electrical outlet with a mushy banana in my
hand and yep you guessed it.  It was only a mild shock but for a kid my
age, an unforgettable experience.

Ken

Beth wrote:

> Now that I think back on this, I remember as a very young girl, probably 4
> to 6 years of age, I remember sticking a plugged in extension cord into my
> mouth only to be zapped pretty hard. I have since been shocked a few other
> times, one time when plugging in a dryer standing on a wet floor and I had
> my fingers touching the prongs without realizing it, I went flying
> backwards on that one.  Don't want to do that again.  Now my body seems to
> have a constant state of static.  I have to be careful around my computer
> and I am constantly blowing out light bulbs and other strange things.
> This would be an interesting theory to follow up on.
> 
> So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
> shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
> don't you?
> 
> Beth

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From: "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk>
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Eeeee.......

When I were a lad electricity WAS electricity.

There I was walking down the street mindin' me own business, when all of a
sudden 'Wham' - I gets 4 Million volts of lightening straight where you
wouldn't want it.

Well, I was a bit disoriented by this (as you can imagine), and innocently
leaned on a nearby lamp post - It wasn't until I was flying backwards
through the air that I realised that the electrical cover had been ripped
off the lamp post and I had just leant on the street mains.

Groggily I rose to my feet in the middle of the road and began to totter
uncertainly back to the kerb. I had just reached the gutter when I heard a
terrific snapping sound above me. Moments later the water around my feet
became 'live' as the broken overhead mains cable fed it's juice into the
gutter water.

It was at this point that I actually died.

And when I tell people that story today.....

.....they don't believe me!!!

:-)


Wren
wren@xsite.ltd.uk
www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren

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Bart Scott wrote:

> In <35ac7c9d.0@katana.legend.co.uk> "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk> writes:
>
> >It was at this point that I actually died.
> >
> >And when I tell people that story today.....
> >
> >.....they don't believe me!!!
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >
> >Wren
> >wren@xsite.ltd.uk
> >www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren
>
> I don't recall you ever relating a near-death-experience to this NG.
> Did you have one?  Care to share?
>
> Bart

  Yes, I would be interested in this too since I have experienced an NDE,
I would love to hear what happened after you died and compare experiences.

Beth

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From: hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com (Julia Hawkes-Moore)
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 "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk> wrote:

>Eeeee.......
>
>When I were a lad electricity WAS electricity.
>
>There I was walking down the street mindin' me own business, when all of a
>sudden 'Wham' - I gets 4 Million volts of lightening straight where you
>wouldn't want it.
>
>Well, I was a bit disoriented by this (as you can imagine), and innocently
>leaned on a nearby lamp post - It wasn't until I was flying backwards
>through the air that I realised that the electrical cover had been ripped
>off the lamp post and I had just leant on the street mains.
>
>Groggily I rose to my feet in the middle of the road and began to totter
>uncertainly back to the kerb. I had just reached the gutter when I heard a
>terrific snapping sound above me. Moments later the water around my feet
>became 'live' as the broken overhead mains cable fed it's juice into the
>gutter water.
>
>It was at this point that I actually died.
>And when I tell people that story today.....
>>.....they don't believe me!!!

  Unless they live in Leeds, UK, where it has happened to every single
one of the population. That's why nobody living wants to live in
Leeds. I know, I lived in Tadcaster until I died and went to
Herefordshire Heaven! 
:-)
JHM

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From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott)
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In <35ac7c9d.0@katana.legend.co.uk> "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk> writes: 

>It was at this point that I actually died.
>
>And when I tell people that story today.....
>
>.....they don't believe me!!!
>
>:-)
>
>
>Wren
>wren@xsite.ltd.uk
>www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren

I don't recall you ever relating a near-death-experience to this NG. 
Did you have one?  Care to share?

Bart

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From: "Trish" <capuchin@gte.net>
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Beth wrote in message <35ABA30A.ED853E77@pop.slkc.uswest.net>...
>

>So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of electro
>shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an interesting find
>don't you?
>
>Beth

I don't recall anything happening to me that was similar.  But my grandpappy
was struck by lightning twice.  Maybe it's genetic.
One thing is for sure, OBEs come down my mother's side of
the family, and he was her father.

On my own father's side of the family, no one would have a clue
what I'm talking about.

Greetings from Florida ....................
Trish
capuchin@gte.net <news>
silencexx@hotmail.com <personal>

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From: i.bruce@connect-2.co.uk
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By eck, lad.... thar's ad a reyt interestin' life ant tha?

ian




In article <35ac7c9d.0@katana.legend.co.uk>,
  "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk> wrote:
> Eeeee.......
>
> When I were a lad electricity WAS electricity.
>
> There I was walking down the street mindin' me own business, when all of a
> sudden 'Wham' - I gets 4 Million volts of lightening straight where you
> wouldn't want it.
>
> Well, I was a bit disoriented by this (as you can imagine), and innocently
> leaned on a nearby lamp post - It wasn't until I was flying backwards
> through the air that I realised that the electrical cover had been ripped
> off the lamp post and I had just leant on the street mains.
>
> Groggily I rose to my feet in the middle of the road and began to totter
> uncertainly back to the kerb. I had just reached the gutter when I heard a
> terrific snapping sound above me. Moments later the water around my feet
> became 'live' as the broken overhead mains cable fed it's juice into the
> gutter water.
>
> It was at this point that I actually died.
>
> And when I tell people that story today.....
>
> .....they don't believe me!!!
>
> :-)
>
> Wren
> wren@xsite.ltd.uk
> www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren
>
>

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From: Gunnar Ljungstrand <dervak@algonet.se>
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Beth wrote:
> 
> Now that I think back on this, I remember as a very young girl,
> probably 4 to 6 years of age, I remember sticking a plugged in
> extension cord into my mouth only to be zapped pretty hard. I have
> since been shocked a few other times, one time when plugging in a
> dryer standing on a wet floor and I had my fingers touching the prongs
> without realizing it, I went flying backwards on that one.  Don't want
> to do that again.  Now my body seems to have a constant state of
> static.  I have to be careful around my computer and I am constantly
> blowing out light bulbs and other strange things. This would be an
> interesting theory to follow up on.
> 
> So how many of us on the NG who have had OOBE's recall some form of
> electro shock prior to their first OOBE?  I think this would be an
> interesting find don't you?
> 
> Beth

Well, I for one seem to have no problems either with electronic or other
electric equipment. Still, when I was a kid, about 10 years old, I
managed to put my fingers into an empty light socket. Cannot remember
now why on Earth I would do such a thing. Blew me back straight on the
floor, though.

Still, this was some seventeen years before I ever managed to go OBE, so
I dunno if there really are some connection... coincidence or what?

I wonder what percentage of people have got a least one strong electric
shock during their lives. Anyone having an idea of this?

See you out there...

/Gunnar

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From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott)
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In <35ACFD86.2D778DE7@pop.slkc.uswest.net> Beth
<oberoberts@pop.slkc.uswest.net> writes: 
>
>
>
>Bart Scott wrote:
>
>> In <35ac7c9d.0@katana.legend.co.uk> "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk>
writes:
>>
>> >It was at this point that I actually died.
>> >
>> >And when I tell people that story today.....
>> >
>> >.....they don't believe me!!!
>> >
>> >:-)
>> >
>> >
>> >Wren
>> >wren@xsite.ltd.uk
>> >www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren
>>
>> I don't recall you ever relating a near-death-experience to this NG.
>> Did you have one?  Care to share?
>>
>> Bart
>
>  Yes, I would be interested in this too since I have experienced an
>NDE, I would love to hear what happened after you died and compare
>experiences.
>
>Beth

Beth...  Have you been to the alt.consciousness.near-death-exp
newsgroup?  It use to be pretty good, but I haven't been there for some
time.

Bart

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silkdick@aol.com (Silk Dick) writes:
> <Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove> writes:
> >>I heard you can plug the wires of a large (heavy) enough speaker into a
> >> wall outlet, and hear the 60 hz hum come from them...
> >Not neccessary large and heavy, just with a LOT highter ohm number as
> >most speakers today have (the ones used by valve based radios from the
> >1950s would perhaps still go).
> I was thinking of those JBL studio monitors, with the 30 lb magnets...

They wouldn't stand an snowball-in-hells chance. The coils in them
would be evaporated in a few seconds.


> >engines resulted, and an big bang.
> (assuming you're not American...)

English, Derby, but only lived the first 6 1/2 years of my life.
Language is a mix of mothers london, fathers leicester, a bit of derby
plus our first neighbor her in switzerlands scottisch.


> use the word "an" before all words starting with vowels, "a,e,i,o, and u."

According to Oxford english. The an is as old as I can remember, most
likely from one of the dialects up above. Don't ask me which one.


> >are there already ghosts typing onto Usenet?
> 
> PLEASE don't ask!  (SHHHHhhhh!!! no body mention s.hill!  leave him be!)

I thought they had only killed his Internet access, not his body...


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In article <35ac7c9d.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, "Wren" <wren@xsite.ltd.uk> writes:

>>It was at this point that I actually died.
>And when I tell people that story today.....
>.....they don't believe me!!!

that "story"??

Ok:  here's a news bulletin I read once in a paper (damned sorry I didn't clip
it.  This is from memory...)

A man is (was) suing the city of Chicago for mucho bucks for negligence and
emotional damage, compensation, etc... on behalf of his DOG.

Seems he was walking his dog on a leash, obeying the local leash laws, for the
dog's morning constitutional, when ol' Rover decided to lift a leg and mark a
spot on the curb.  (This is a male dog, the kind who likes to "aim"; not a
female, who just likes to squat and "puddle.")  As fate would have it, turns
out that this innocent looking box / target just happened to be an open live
junction box, and Spot ended up getting knocked for around 2000 volts or more,
sending him flying across the sidewalk for some amount of distance...(need I
point out where the current entered his anatomy?)

At any rate, the owner of the dog cited "a permanently grumpier change in the
dog's disposition, and extreme duress every time he tries to urinate..."

yes, the newspaper accounting was even funnier :-)

Pleasant Dreams |-)
Silk

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In article <35ABE33C.50AD@jeffnet.org>, Linda Stead <lstead@jeffnet.org>
writes:

>Carlos Castenada triggered my first LD experience.  It was only
>long and hard study and determination which brought about OOBE ability
>for me.

CC's demise must have been quite a "shock" for all of his sycophants... 
Pleasant Dreams |-)
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In article <35ACE05D.7983A65@algonet.se>, Gunnar Ljungstrand
<dervak@algonet.se> writes:

>I wonder what percentage of people have got a least one strong electric
>shock during their lives. Anyone having an idea of this?

I suppose you could call it "The Edison Effect."  After all, prior to Edison,
the only shocks people got were from carpets and lightning!

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From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott)
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In <1998071604142900.AAA04453@ladder03.news.aol.com> silkdick@aol.com
(Silk Dick) writes: 
>
>In article <35ACE05D.7983A65@algonet.se>, Gunnar Ljungstrand
><dervak@algonet.se> writes:
>
>>I wonder what percentage of people have got a least one strong
>>electric shock during their lives. Anyone having an idea of this?

>I suppose you could call it "The Edison Effect."  After all, prior to
>Edison, the only shocks people got were from carpets and lightning!

Ummm... ever heard of Nikoli Tesla?  Edison laughed at Tesla for his
work with alternating currents.  Edison was still into basic DC and
told the media that Tesla was wasting his time with AC.  It was Tesla
who was later declared the 'Father of Electronics'.  It was Tesla who
invented the flourecent light.  It was Tesla who actually invented the
AC generator and the AC motor.  It was Tesla that proved AC was more
efficient than DC.  Edison was just a better business man and basically
drove the honest Tesla into poverty.

Please, Silk - make sure you credit the proper individual...  Edison
was great, but Tesla actually gave us the basis of modern day analog
electronics, lighting, and power transfer over long distance - not
Edison.

Bart

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From: Gunnar Ljungstrand <dervak@algonet.se>
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Bart Scott wrote:
> 
> Ummm... ever heard of Nikoli Tesla?  Edison laughed at Tesla for his
> work with alternating currents.  Edison was still into basic DC and
> told the media that Tesla was wasting his time with AC.  It was Tesla
> who was later declared the 'Father of Electronics'.  It was Tesla who
> invented the flourecent light.  It was Tesla who actually invented the
> AC generator and the AC motor.  It was Tesla that proved AC was more
> efficient than DC.  Edison was just a better business man and
> basically drove the honest Tesla into poverty.
> 
> Please, Silk - make sure you credit the proper individual...  Edison
> was great, but Tesla actually gave us the basis of modern day analog
> electronics, lighting, and power transfer over long distance - not
> Edison.
> 
> Bart

Yes, some say that Nikolai Tesla was the last universal genius. I,
however am more positive, and think of him as merely the latest...

BTW, it is said that some of Teslaīs work still isnīt understood by
modern science.

See you out there...

/Gunnar

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In <35ae7cc8.0@d2o204.telia.com> "Lars Rune Foleide"
<larsrune@sf.telia.no> writes: 
>
>Gunnar Ljungstrand wrote in message
>>
>>BTW, it is said that some of Teslaīs work still isnīt understood by
>>modern science.
>>
>
>That is quite possible. Not many understand scalar waves....
>
>Lars

I read something about him producing earthquakes with a device as small
as a pack of cigarettes.  That would be low frequency waves at or near
resonance of the earth.

He also produced ball lightning with his coils.  The flyback
transformer in TVs and monitors came from the tesla coil.

Bart

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Gunnar Ljungstrand wrote in message
>
>BTW, it is said that some of Teslaīs work still isnīt understood by
>modern science.
>

That is quite possible. Not many understand scalar waves....

Lars

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Bart Scott wrote in message <6om419$4o2@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...

>I read something about him producing earthquakes with a device as small
>as a pack of cigarettes.  That would be low frequency waves at or near
>resonance of the earth.
>
>He also produced ball lightning with his coils.  The flyback
>transformer in TVs and monitors came from the Tesla coil.
>
>Bart
>

As small as a pack of cigarettes?

And ball lightning?

Cool, I need to look into Telsa's work.
Amazing what that guy accomplished.


Lars

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From: bartma12@ix.netcom.com(Bart Scott)
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In <35AF63B1.59E2@sanger.ac.uk> Tim <tee@sanger.ac.uk> writes: 
>
>Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
>> 
>> Bart Scott wrote in message <6om419$4o2@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
>> 
>> >I read something about him producing earthquakes with a device as
>>small as a pack of cigarettes.  That would be low frequency waves at
>>or near resonance of the earth.
>> >
>> >He also produced ball lightning with his coils.  The flyback
>> >transformer in TVs and monitors came from the Tesla coil.
>> >
>> >Bart
>> >
>> 
>> As small as a pack of cigarettes?
>> 
>> And ball lightning?
>> 
>> Cool, I need to look into Telsa's work.
>> Amazing what that guy accomplished.
>> 
>> Lars
>
>'scuse me but Who is Tesla? and what sort of work did he do? Sounds
>like quite interesting stuff.
>
>Tim

Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943).  A Croation-born U.S. electrical engineer
and inventor.  His many inventions include the first practical system
for distributing alternating current.  (That's from my dictionary).

I have some other articles on him if I could find them.  One is in an
electronics magazine.

I don't know if the thing about the earthquake device is absolutely
true - but he was working on something like it.

He has definately played a major part in all of our lives, but most
people don't even know of him.  We are more apt to think of Edison
because he bought up most of Tesla's patents and made them his own.

I'll see if I can find those stories...

Bart

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From: Tim <tee@sanger.ac.uk>
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Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
> 
> Bart Scott wrote in message <6om419$4o2@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
> 
> >I read something about him producing earthquakes with a device as small
> >as a pack of cigarettes.  That would be low frequency waves at or near
> >resonance of the earth.
> >
> >He also produced ball lightning with his coils.  The flyback
> >transformer in TVs and monitors came from the Tesla coil.
> >
> >Bart
> >
> 
> As small as a pack of cigarettes?
> 
> And ball lightning?
> 
> Cool, I need to look into Telsa's work.
> Amazing what that guy accomplished.
> 
> Lars

'scuse me but Who is Tesla? and what sort of work did he do? Sounds like
quite interesting stuff.

Tim

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In article <m3n2aagbvq.fsf@chonsp.franklin.lugs.ch>, Neil Franklin
<Neil.Franklin@ccw.ch.remove> writes:

>According to Oxford english. The an is as old as I can remember, most
>likely from one of the dialects up above. Don't ask me which one.

right, but don't they use the word "a" as well, Like "take a hike"?  with "a"
and "an", the "an" is only used before the vowels, and the H words sounding
like a vowel.


Pleasant Dreams |-)
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:37:25 +0200, "Lars Rune Foleide"
<larsrune@sf.telia.no> wrote:

>As small as a pack of cigarettes?
>
>And ball lightning?
>
>Cool, I need to look into Telsa's work.
>Amazing what that guy accomplished.
>
>
>Lars

Yeah he did those. I believe he also said he could make a "death ray"
that would kill people but wouldn't hurt anything else. I think the
CIA or FBI or somebody opened a file on him after he said that.

7

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7 <7@newsguy.com> wrote in message <35b03721.5030323@enews.newsguy.com>...
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>Yeah he did those. I believe he also said he could make a "death ray"
>that would kill people but wouldn't hurt anything else. I think the
>CIA or FBI or somebody opened a file on him after he said that.
>
>7

The neutron bomb does that trick... :)


Cheers,
Lars

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Hmmmm! That reminds me so much of an instrument that Robert Monroe spoke
about coming across at one stage during his OOB experiences.

Craig

[7 wrote]

> Yeah he did those. I believe he also said he could make a "death ray"
> that would kill people but wouldn't hurt anything else. I think the
> CIA or FBI or somebody opened a file on him after he said that.
>

######

From: Zac <psycho_dude@geocities.com>
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claire wrote:

>         On that note, I have the most bizarre problems with computers and computer
> systems and static that comes out at the oddest times, like when I'm
> walking on concrete and there isn't anything to build up a charge. My
> hairdresser laughs because he says he's never seen hair that will stand up
> the way mine does with just a simple brushing.
Yeah, I get that stuff too, whenever I sing the microphone always shocks
me!  It doesn't matter which one I use, they all shock me.  No one I
have ever played with has had a problem with the mics shocking them. 
Also, EVERY time I get out of the car it shocks me.
> 
>         Now that I think about it, it was right about that time I went into
> massive lucid dreaming.
> 
>         Do you think a shock could last over 25 years?
> 
>                                                         Claire

-- 
 -Zac

I have great faith in fools, 
self-confidence my friends call it. --Edgar Allen Poe

######

From: "claire" <claire@delta.com>
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Bart Scott <bartma12@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<6onqa4$sgo@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>...
> In <35AF63B1.59E2@sanger.ac.uk> Tim <tee@sanger.ac.uk> writes: 
> >
> >Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
> >> 
> >> Bart Scott wrote in message <6om419$4o2@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
> >> 
> >'scuse me but Who is Tesla? and what sort of work did he do? Sounds
> >like quite interesting stuff.
> >
> >Tim
> 
> Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943).  A Croation-born U.S. electrical engineer
> and inventor.  His many inventions include the first practical system
> for distributing alternating current.  (That's from my dictionary).
> 
> I have some other articles on him if I could find them.  One is in an
> electronics magazine.
> 
	I remember being interested in Tesla and reading somewhere that a lot of
his inventions were "confiscated" and classified top secret. That was
probably the "National Enquirer" or some other silly newspaper as that
doesn't sound reasonable. Anybody hear anything like that? I know that he
invented some devices that even astounded his fellow scientists and when
pressured to reveal the workings, he wouldn't. Anybody have Tesla dreams?
I've had quite a few. I wrote them down but have it will be hard to trace
them down. Anybody meet Tesla OOB? 

	Anybody have good references to Tesla's work?


	Back to the references of people who have been shocked who are in this
newsgroup: count me in. I remember moving from country that had different
electric currents and we used transformers of some sort to regulate the
current so that we could use American appliances. That was over
twenty-five? years ago and I think it was Brasil in comparison to America.
I think it also had something to do with alternating currents vs. direct
currents. Anyway, can't remember exactly what caused the shock. Whether I
tried to use the transformer or used a lamp bought in the other country in
America without a transformer or whether I used the other countries lamp
with the transformer.We were back in America by then and I was just doing
something that I had been taught to do overseas except I didn't know if the
lamp was American or Brasilian. All I remember is being blown 3 feet away
from the outlet after a large spark and shorting out half the apartment
building we were living in. Of course, I didn't tell my parents because I
thought they'd be mad at me for doing such a stupid thing but I really had
no idea that would happen. When I heard that half the apartment building
had shorted out and no one could tell what happened, I then told them but
they refused to believe plugging a lamp in could cause that. Frankly, I
don't know that it did, I just know I got zapped at the same time. It took
me three years to stop asking people to plug lamps in for me. Hee, hee.
Pretty funny, no?

	On that note, I have the most bizarre problems with computers and computer
systems and static that comes out at the oddest times, like when I'm
walking on concrete and there isn't anything to build up a charge. My
hairdresser laughs because he says he's never seen hair that will stand up
the way mine does with just a simple brushing. 

	Now that I think about it, it was right about that time I went into
massive lucid dreaming.

	Do you think a shock could last over 25 years?

							Claire

######

From: "claire" <claire@delta.com>
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Zac <psycho_dude@geocities.com> wrote in article
<35ABBB62.19EC@geocities.com>...
> Bart Scott wrote:
> > 
> > In <35ab7067.30376875@news.dial.pipex.com> hawksmoor@dial.pipex.com
> > (Julia Hawkes-Moore) writes:
> > >
> > They've given me a couple of chances over the last 2.5 years - and
> > STILL every time I touch their equipment something else breaks the next
> > day.  I finally told my boss to not even suggest that I try to get back
> > in there and added, "I'm not going back in there without an exorcist.
> > The place is just too spooky."
> > 
> > Bart
> 
> Sometimes you just have all of the luck.  I have a friend who is
> 'cursed' like this, I could be using the computer for 8 hours straight
> and all he has to do is come in and press just one key or move the mouse
> and crash my computer so bad that it takes me most of the next day to
> set everything back up.
>

	Oh, but there's the other end of the spectrum that you both missed! There
are people out there who just have to touch a machine and it works better.
My brother-in-law was claiming this ability and I backed him by saying I
had read studies on people who have this "machine empathy" such that when
they work on them the machines actually are more efficient. It was an
actual scientific study that passed muster.  It's some kind of symbiotic
relationship. Anyway, my husband laughed his head off and dared my
brother-in-law to go out and fix his Saab which had refused to start
running and was sitting in out driveway because nothing he did to it would
make it run. They were both laughing and since my brother-in-law is a good
mechanic, he said he'd help. They joked their way out and before my
brother-in-law touched the car my husband demanded to give it another try
in case it had gotten charged somehow. It wouldn't work. So my
brother-in-law laughed and said it was because the car hadn't been blessed
(they were horsing around and making fun out of the studies I'd told them
about). So, anyway, he blesses the car and touches it and they try the key
again and the thing starts running like nothing is wrong with it. Honestly!
They come back in and tell me, shaking their heads and scratching them.
That's when my brother-in-law mentioned walking into banks to help them
with their ATM's, which he fixed, and he would get there and the moment he
walked in the things would start working again. He was like a mechanical
charm. He'd always thought the people calling just didn't understand the
machine wasn't broken. When he'd ask them what had happened, it sounded
like the machine had been broken but when he showed up, they all of a
sudden fixed themselves. This happened all the time for him.

	So, your electric field can work for you as well as against you. Wish I
knew his "trick," it would sure help me!

							Claire 

######

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claire <claire@delta.com> wrote in article
<01bdb590$5ab0dba0$0ae555c6@default>...
> 
> 
> 	Do you think a shock could last over 25 years?
> 
	Oh, wait a minute! I got a booster shot about five years ago that I'd
forgotten about. I was doing electrical work and just learning it and
needless to say I hooked the wrong wire to the wrong terminal. Never been
very smart about electronics...


							Claire
> 

######

From: Tim <tee@sanger.ac.uk>
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claire wrote:
> 
> claire <claire@delta.com> wrote in article
> <01bdb590$5ab0dba0$0ae555c6@default>...
> >
> >
> >       Do you think a shock could last over 25 years?
> >
>         Oh, wait a minute! I got a booster shot about five years ago that I'd
> forgotten about. I was doing electrical work and just learning it and
> needless to say I hooked the wrong wire to the wrong terminal. Never been
> very smart about electronics...
> 
>                                                         Claire
> >


That is interesting.
Every so often I get what feels like ane electric shock shoot up my neck
and disperse itself at the back of my head. Its quite painfull and
always a shock to me. I have noticed that this tends to happen more when
I am near a stereo speaker when music is being played. I have only had a
few mild electric shocks in my life, nothing serious so I don't think
this is to do with latent electricity in my body or something. I do know
that I never had anything like this before my interest in OBE/lucid
dream/ dreaming. Could there be a connection?
Tim.

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From: "Catherine Balcom" <BALCOM-CL@worldnet.att.net>
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Regarding Tesla -- try amazon.com and use as search word to find books with
his inventions and patents.  Also the gov't is getting close to
teleportation.

- CB

claire wrote in message <01bdb590$5ab0dba0$0ae555c6@default>...
>
>
>Bart Scott <bartma12@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><6onqa4$sgo@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>...
>> In <35AF63B1.59E2@sanger.ac.uk> Tim <tee@sanger.ac.uk> writes:
>> >
>> >Lars Rune Foleide wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Bart Scott wrote in message <6om419$4o2@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
>> >>
>> >'scuse me but Who is Tesla? and what sort of work did he do? Sounds
>> >like quite interesting stuff.
>> >
>> >Tim
>>
>> Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943).  A Croation-born U.S. electrical engineer
>> and inventor.  His many inventions include the first practical system
>> for distributing alternating current.  (That's from my dictionary).
>>
>> I have some other articles on him if I could find them.  One is in an
>> electronics magazine.
>>
> I remember being interested in Tesla and reading somewhere that a lot of
>his inventions were "confiscated" and classified top secret. That was
>probably the "National Enquirer" or some other silly newspaper as that
>doesn't sound reasonable. Anybody hear anything like that? I know that he
>invented some devices that even astounded his fellow scientists and when
>pressured to reveal the workings, he wouldn't. Anybody have Tesla dreams?
>I've had quite a few. I wrote them down but have it will be hard to trace
>them down. Anybody meet Tesla OOB?
>
> Anybody have good references to Tesla's work?
>
>
> Back to the references of people who have been shocked who are in this
>newsgroup: count me in. I remember moving from country that had different
>electric currents and we used transformers of some sort to regulate the
>current so that we could use American appliances. That was over
>twenty-five? years ago and I think it was Brasil in comparison to America.
>I think it also had something to do with alternating currents vs. direct
>currents. Anyway, can't remember exactly what caused the shock. Whether I
>tried to use the transformer or used a lamp bought in the other country in
>America without a transformer or whether I used the other countries lamp
>with the transformer.We were back in America by then and I was just doing
>something that I had been taught to do overseas except I didn't know if the
>lamp was American or Brasilian. All I remember is being blown 3 feet away
>from the outlet after a large spark and shorting out half the apartment
>building we were living in. Of course, I didn't tell my parents because I
>thought they'd be mad at me for doing such a stupid thing but I really had
>no idea that would happen. When I heard that half the apartment building
>had shorted out and no one could tell what happened, I then told them but
>they refused to believe plugging a lamp in could cause that. Frankly, I
>don't know that it did, I just know I got zapped at the same time. It took
>me three years to stop asking people to plug lamps in for me. Hee, hee.
>Pretty funny, no?
>
> On that note, I have the most bizarre problems with computers and computer
>systems and static that comes out at the oddest times, like when I'm
>walking on concrete and there isn't anything to build up a charge. My
>hairdresser laughs because he says he's never seen hair that will stand up
>the way mine does with just a simple brushing.
>
> Now that I think about it, it was right about that time I went into
>massive lucid dreaming.
>
> Do you think a shock could last over 25 years?
>
> Claire

######

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"claire" <claire@delta.com> writes:
> 	Oh, but there's the other end of the spectrum that you both missed! There
> are people out there who just have to touch a machine and it works better.

Hmmm. I fit into that category. Computers have a tendency to start
working again as soon as the distressed user calls me for help.

I jokingly say that they fear I am going to take them apart.

BTW: Or secretary regards this as an general trait of "all you
technical people".


-- 
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From: johnf@melbpc.org.au (John Fitzsimons)
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On 22 Jul 1998 14:05:26 GMT, "claire" <claire@delta.com> wrote:

< snip >
 
>There
>are people out there who just have to touch a machine and it works better.

< snip >

This can be the result of what in effect is the opposite of "psychic
attack". People interfering with other people/things on psychic levels
can affect their performance in the physical. If someone has a strong
positive attitude and/or aura then their involvement can negate the
negative effects. One can themselves counter such affects as well.

The strength/polarity of a person's aura is also the reason some
people have difficulty with OOB experiences. A strong negative
attitude/aura near a potential OOBer and they may well end up 
going nowhere.

Regards, John.
 
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On 22 Jul 1998 13:53:33 GMT, "claire" <claire@delta.com> wrote:

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>	Anybody have good references to Tesla's work?

< snip >

A web search will uncover thousands of sites on Tesla, such as ;


http://www.clpgh.org/clp/exhibit/tesla10.html

and

http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/proj/edsntsla/hist6.htm

however the sort of site that will most interest readers of this
newsgroup is ;

http://www.cebunet.com/kirlian/coil.htm


it deals with Kirlian photography.  :-)

Regards, John.
 
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