Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cijadra.dialup.fu-berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: cijadra@zedat.fu-berlin.de Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,alt.oobe,alt.out-of-body,alt.paranet.psi,bionet.neuroscience,sci.physics Subject: Q Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:45:57 GMT Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Lines: 22 Message-ID: <356080e4.1234549@news.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <01bd7f2d$cf0662c0$819022cf@deathlord> <355d8320.856335@news.twics.com> <01bd81e0$02d346e0$7b9022cf@deathlord> NNTP-Posting-Host: cijadra.dialup.fu-berlin.de (130.133.216.34) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Access: 16 17 18 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 895604310 3950 (none) 130.133.216.34 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 "Ian Wilson" wrote: > I have no >way of forcasting if you should start experiencing precognition but if you >start to take more notice of your dreamlife and start exploring the >multiple layers of your consicousnessness and subconsciousness who knows >what you may find. Ian, if you share dreams, how do you extend and dock? I understand awake how to go about 2 meter to another brain, but not within sleep and for longer distances. Do you have precognition? If so, how far ahead is it, and is it just of things that already started or also of some that did not yet, and are there low range energy feelings with them like maybe when sharing night dreams or when docking brains on the "black ranges",... Are there specific internal energy stages with it? Have you ever had a headache or pressure feelings or tingling feelings at certain points in the head afterwards and if so which ones? ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Ian Wilson" Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,alt.oobe,alt.out-of-body,alt.paranet.psi,bionet.neuroscience,sci.physics Subject: Re: Q Date: 19 May 1998 21:55:49 GMT Organization: Death Lines: 67 Message-ID: <01bd8370$b7aebd60$cb9022cf@deathlord> References: <01bd7f2d$cf0662c0$819022cf@deathlord> <355d8320.856335@news.twics.com> <01bd81e0$02d346e0$7b9022cf@deathlord> <356080e4.1234549@news.zedat.fu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 2109@207.34.144.203 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 > Ian, if you share dreams, how do you extend and dock? > I understand awake how to go about 2 meter to another brain, but not > within sleep and for longer distances. The technique is simple if you are in a lucid dreamstate or in a conscious out-of-body and you can locate a friend or person you know. Once the contact is made, then comes all the other elements of this such as if the other person is in a lucid state of mind at the time, if they are not consciously aware but still somewhat functioning at a semi-conscious level, or if they are flat out unconscious that they are there at all. If they remeber the dream then it comes down to how much they remeber, how badly their personification of the dreamstate has distorted the info all the way up to if they even remeber anything at all. It works in stages but is best achieved if all participants are consciously aware they are in a dreamstate. Consciousness is the key. > Do you have precognition? Yes. > If so, how far ahead is it, and is it just of things that already > started or also of some that did not yet, and are there low range > energy feelings with them like maybe when sharing night dreams or when > docking brains on the "black ranges",... The precognition can be anywhere from days to weeks to months. The focus of my course is to start inducing lucid precognitive dreams in people. Imagine being able to control a lucid precognitive dream. There is big potential here. > Are there specific internal energy stages with it? Yeah, there is a system that we seem to unconsciously follow in our deep delta sleep. The metaphorical analogy I like with this state is we are much like a computer that logs onto a mainframe where we upload ourselves and create or program desired experiences with the mainframe. The mainframe holds intact all the variables, seemingly random factors and maps out the desired pattern's trajectory through our conscious perception of space and time. It still all boils down to a creative process where we are participants in what is being created. This process occures towards the core of our unconsciousness. Again, the key to learning about it is being there consciously so you can retain what is happening. As for the state, I enter into a blackness where by I move or shift slightly and instanty am at some empty void full of apparent nothingness until it speaks to me. Then after relating desired experiences (uploading) Myself and the "others", construct a window whereby I project into this "dreamstate" and I become myself here in physical. I have observed movement to and from this dreamstate back to the infinite void as if it were some fine-tuning. Then after all is said and done, I return to my body and wake. Time is the only teller should this event occure physically. And some do. The major potential I have witnessed is when I am fully conscious during the initial phase of this creative process since I then can consciously direct desired experiences which so far has shown the true effortless ability to create and generate reality that we all have in this collective unconscious. > Have you ever had a headache or pressure feelings or tingling > feelings at certain points in the head afterwards and if so which > ones? In some cases in a deep OOBE, I wake up and I cannot move. My body is physically exhausted and everything feels so heavy. Then after a little bit of sleep, I'm fine. Something in the long haul of a deep OOBE seems to trigger this. Hope this shines some light, Ian ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.fsu.edu!ibms48.scri.fsu.edu!jac From: jac@ibms48.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,alt.oobe,alt.out-of-body,alt.paranet.psi,bionet.neuroscience,sci.physics,alt.religion.kibology Subject: Re: Q Followup-To: alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,alt.oobe,alt.out-of-body,alt.paranet.psi,alt.religion.kibology Date: 20 May 1998 03:23:29 GMT Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6jtibh$5qr$1@news.fsu.edu> References: <01bd81e0$02d346e0$7b9022cf@deathlord> <356080e4.1234549@news.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <01bd8370$b7aebd60$cb9022cf@deathlord> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibms48.scri.fsu.edu } Ian, if you share dreams, how do you extend and dock? } I understand awake how to go about 2 meter to another brain, but not } within sleep and for longer distances. "Ian Wilson" writes: > >The technique is simple if you are in a lucid dreamstate or in a conscious >out-of-body and you can locate a friend or person you know. I am in an out-of-newsgroup experience, does that count even if I am not Shannon Lucid? } Do you have precognition? Yes. I knew you would say that. >Hope this shines some light, Light wakes me up. -- James A. Carr | Commercial e-mail is _NOT_ http://www.scri.fsu.edu/~jac/ | desired to this or any address Supercomputer Computations Res. Inst. | that resolves to my account Florida State, Tallahassee FL 32306 | for any reason at any time.