Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news.on.rogers.wave.ca!not-for-mail From: "Anthony Marotta" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: rope technique Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:33:14 -0500 Organization: Rogers WAVE Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-8651.on.rogers.wave.ca X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I think most of you have probably looked at this already but I finally decided to try it and although I didn't make it to separation, I was quite shocked with how easily it got me to a semi vibration stage. I believe someone here already posted this link but just in case, check out: http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren for some good info and specifically Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection in which, among other great stuff, the rope technique is outlined, is zipped at http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newman.pcisys.net!not-for-mail From: Wintermute Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:46:27 -0700 Organization: PCI Systems Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3515A2D3.93940179@calweb.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.204.7.94 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) To: alexa.james@nashville.com Sounds like you forgot to unzip the file. Zip files are a collection compressed files in a single file. I downloaded it, unzipped it, and found six files about the rope technique. Go to www.pcisys.net/~maxemerg/pkunzip.exe and download the file. You need to run it in DOS. Put them with the file in a directory by themselves. Go to that directory and type: pkunzip toapv2.zip. The six files will be in that directory now, along with the original. alternatively, you CAN put everything in one directory, go to the "Start" button, click on "Run" and enter THIS command: c:\dirname\pkunzip toapv2.zip. Where dirname is the full path of the new directory (i.e. c:\junk\stuff\pkunzip toapv2.zip.) Or, if you just LOVE Windows, you can look around for a copy of "WinZip." It will mindlessly allow Windows to open zip files. Alexa James wrote: > Help! How do I get this file? I went to the site and downloaded it. > When it asked me what program to use I figured it was text, so I > downloaded it to Word Perfect but it didn't open anywhere. What am I > doing wrong? > > Alexa ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Gail Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:14:28 -0800 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 28 Message-ID: <35160BD4.ED52D82@cidcorp.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 4647@206.42.106.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) nil wrote: > > In addition to Wintermute's directions on how to unzip the file, I > sounds to me as if you may have made a mistake in downloading it as > well. When you click on the link > (http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip), a window pops up that has an > "Unknown File Type" banner at the top and 4 buttons at the bottom: "More > Info", "Pick App", "Save File", and "Cancel". It sounds to me as if you > may have clicked on "Pick App", when what you really need to do is click > on "Save File". When you do so, another window pops up that asks where > you want the file to be put. After you tell it what > directory/folder/whatever to put "toapv2.zip" into, it will download the > file. From there, you can use the instructions from Wintermute to > extract the plain-text files from "toapv2.zip". > Just holler if you need more help. I downloaded the file yesterday. > If needed, I could e-mail the plain-text files to you. > > Regards, > nil Nil, Call me lazy, or just not confident in my net abilities yet. But, how long are the plain-text files and could I impose upon you to e-mail them to me if they aren't too long and it wouldn't be too much trouble to you. Gail ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!news-xfer.siscom.net!news.siscom.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> From: nil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:20:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp79.midd-oh.siscom.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:20:41 EST In addition to Wintermute's directions on how to unzip the file, I sounds to me as if you may have made a mistake in downloading it as well. When you click on the link (http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip), a window pops up that has an "Unknown File Type" banner at the top and 4 buttons at the bottom: "More Info", "Pick App", "Save File", and "Cancel". It sounds to me as if you may have clicked on "Pick App", when what you really need to do is click on "Save File". When you do so, another window pops up that asks where you want the file to be put. After you tell it what directory/folder/whatever to put "toapv2.zip" into, it will download the file. From there, you can use the instructions from Wintermute to extract the plain-text files from "toapv2.zip". Just holler if you need more help. I downloaded the file yesterday. If needed, I could e-mail the plain-text files to you. Regards, nil ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!news-xfer.siscom.net!news.siscom.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3515AC2A.220C8F9B@siscom.net> From: nil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 5 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:26:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp79.midd-oh.siscom.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:26:19 EST P.S. to my last message: That was the method for downloading the file with Netscape. You didn't say what browser you're using. Let us know if you need any more help. nil ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:49:29 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 6751@207.65.180.30 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Help! How do I get this file? I went to the site and downloaded it. When it asked me what program to use I figured it was text, so I downloaded it to Word Perfect but it didn't open anywhere. What am I doing wrong? Alexa On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:33:14 -0500, "Anthony Marotta" wrote: >I think most of you have probably looked at this already but I finally >decided to try it and although I didn't make it to separation, I was quite >shocked with how easily it got me to a semi vibration stage. > > >I believe someone here already posted this link but just in case, check out: >http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren for some good info and specifically Robert >Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection in which, among other great stuff, the >rope technique is outlined, is zipped at >http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip > > > ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:35:02 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3516ab4c.17104029@news.nashville.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> <3515AC2A.220C8F9B@siscom.net> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 5246@207.65.180.181 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Explorer. I'll go try and see if I can get it. Alexa On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:26:19 GMT, nil wrote: >P.S. to my last message: That was the method for downloading the file >with Netscape. You didn't say what browser you're using. Let us know if >you need any more help. > > nil ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Gail Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:07:07 -0800 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3517316B.F23227EC@cidcorp.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> <35160BD4.ED52D82@cidcorp.com> <3516FCDA.CC3F278E@siscom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 26005@209.2.84.90 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) > Gail, > There are 6 chapters (files, that is) ranging between 16KB and 32KB > long. Further on down, Keith says that he's gone ahead and e-mailed them > to Alexa, and since he's already got them bundled together, I asked if > he'd be so kind as to send them off to you as well. Feel free to holler > if you have any difficulties. Good reading! > > nil Thank you, thank you. :-} Gail ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news-penn.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:26:17 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3516c520.215251@news.nashville.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 2485@207.65.180.167 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Okay. I NEED MORE HELP! I found the file and tried pkunzip. Maybe my dos version won't do it (6.22). Can anyone unzip the file and email me the text? alexa.james@nashville.com Thanks! Alexa On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:20:41 GMT, nil wrote: >In addition to Wintermute's directions on how to unzip the file, I >sounds to me as if you may have made a mistake in downloading it as >well. When you click on the link >(http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip), a window pops up that has an >"Unknown File Type" banner at the top and 4 buttons at the bottom: "More >Info", "Pick App", "Save File", and "Cancel". It sounds to me as if you >may have clicked on "Pick App", when what you really need to do is click >on "Save File". When you do so, another window pops up that asks where >you want the file to be put. After you tell it what >directory/folder/whatever to put "toapv2.zip" into, it will download the >file. From there, you can use the instructions from Wintermute to >extract the plain-text files from "toapv2.zip". > Just holler if you need more help. I downloaded the file yesterday. >If needed, I could e-mail the plain-text files to you. > > Regards, > nil ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!sackheads.org!ibm.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-xfer.siscom.net!news.siscom.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3516FCDA.CC3F278E@siscom.net> From: nil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> <35160BD4.ED52D82@cidcorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:22:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp93.midd-oh.siscom.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:22:55 EST Gail wrote: > Nil, > > Call me lazy, or just not confident in my net abilities yet. But, how > long are the plain-text files and could I impose upon you to e-mail them > to me if they aren't too long and it wouldn't be too much trouble to > you. > > Gail Gail, There are 6 chapters (files, that is) ranging between 16KB and 32KB long. Further on down, Keith says that he's gone ahead and e-mailed them to Alexa, and since he's already got them bundled together, I asked if he'd be so kind as to send them off to you as well. Feel free to holler if you have any difficulties. Good reading! nil ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!infeed.is.co.za!feeder.is.co.za!hermes.is.co.za!kheursinghr From: singhr@sabc.co.za (Ronnie Kheur Singh) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:36:35 GMT Organization: An Internet Solution Customer Lines: 3 Message-ID: <6f82bg$qi5$1@hermes.is.co.za> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gauntlet.sabc.co.za X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Here is a better page http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/projection.html ###### Path: ccw.ch!usenet From: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:25:29 +0100 Organization: My own Private Self Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3517D069.E62A6EF5@ccw.ch> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <3515AAD7.DAB0F627@siscom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) nil wrote: > (http://www.xsite.ltd.uk/wren/toapv2.zip) [lots of trouble with .zip file extracting snipped] For Robert Bruses Treatice on Projection you could also try: http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/projection.html Its in HTML, simply appears in any browser. Sorry for taking so long to answer... -- private: Neil.Franklin.remove.this@ccw.ch http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/ office: franklin.remove.this@arch.ethz.ch http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~franklin/ ###### Path: ccw.ch!elna.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!chicago-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newsops.execpc.com!posts.execpc.com!daily-planet.newsops.execpc.com!usenet From: Matt Holmes Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: rope technique Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:43:00 -0600 Organization: non-spactial Lines: 44 Message-ID: <6g75n3$bjm@newsops.execpc.com> References: <6f3i36$j1n$1@news.on> <35163e07.229296221@news.nashville.com> <6f82bg$qi5$1@hermes.is.co.za> NNTP-Posting-Host: da-soocha-1.mdm.mke.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: daily-planet.newsops.execpc.com 891755043 11894 (None) 169.207.81.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@execpc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Ronnie Kheur Singh wrote: > > Here is a better page > > http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/projection.html Both version 1 and 2 of Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection (Out of Body Experience) are available on my web site as well: http://www.execpc.com/~mholmes/toap/toap.html Here is some background info on these works: Volume I was written in early 1994 (April-May). Later in the year (July - August), due to further research and feedback from the original work, Volume II was release. Each volume individually contains a wealth of knowledge about the Out-of-Body Experience, however some material does overlap between volumes. A Part 7 to Volume II will be available sometime soon, around the release of Robert Bruce's new book. For those who are interested, there is an addendum to the treatise (tips and advise) located at: http://www.execpc.com/~mholmes/articles/tips.html Two other article by Robert Bruce are also available on my site that you may be interested in... YO YO OOBE Technique http://www.execpc.com/~mholmes/articles/yoyo.html Full Body Relaxation Technique http://www.execpc.com/~mholmes/articles/relax.html Please also check out Robert Bruce's web site, The Astral Pulse. There is a bunch of other stuff there that is very interesting: http://www.tower.net.au/~rsb/ Happy OBEing! Matt Holmes Mind Travel Plus http://www.execpc.com/~mholmes/index.html