From: Joe Saad Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:25:45 -0500 Organization: The University of Toledo Lines: 18 Message-ID: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp125.dialins.utoledo.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news.clark.net!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.232.20.2!malgudi.oar.net!utnetw.utoledo.edu!not-for-mail I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low price. Thanks a lot JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU ###### From: "Peter Krivas" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:52:05 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6cso3t$i9k@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.67.148.176 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!wnfeed!204.127.130.5!worldnet.att.net!newsadm I'v noticed this as well. I have seen many pages about it but none telling you how. Most information is on the sites of those who profit from it. I've read "Pschic warrior" and it also gives little info of the teqniqe bhind it. If anyone has any info about it please let me know as well. Thanks Danielle ###### From: GypsyRose_@hotmail.com (Essence) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: 23 Feb 1998 19:53:01 -0700 Organization: Love and Light Lines: 37 Message-ID: <6ctcmd$50a@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> <34f2dd4f.19120710@news.nashville.com> Reply-To: GypsyRose_@hotmail.com X-Posted-By: @206.165.22.251 (tlc76) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.165.113.230!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter0!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail >Here's a thought! If you're really interested, we could set up an >experiment right here on this newsgroup. One person could pick the >sites, we could set up a time, everyone who wants to participate could >try to remote view at a designated time and then report their results >back to the person who knows where to site was via e-mail. Then >he/she could post the results. >Anyone interested? I'm intrested!!! I'd pick a site.....couldn't it just be something easy like my bathroom or school? >On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:25:45 -0500, Joe Saad >wrote: >>I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still >>remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral >>projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to >>remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have >>info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell >>you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? >>There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to >>astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for >>weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are >>about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college >>student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does >>anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that >>contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low >>price. >> >>Thanks a lot >>JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU >> ###### From: "Evelyn" Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: 24 Feb 1998 04:24:50 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bd40dd$4999acc0$e54e1ed1@logmein.flash.net> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: lash15-229.flash.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail I live near UCLA and have seen some books on how to remote view at a big book store nearby called "Borders." They were paperback and probably cost about $15. You might want to try a big book store. I think college area book stores might carry more of that kind of thing too. Also, maybe you could get a book store to order something for you. -Evelyn Joe Saad wrote in article <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU>... > I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still > remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral > projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to > remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have > info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell > you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? > There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to > astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for > weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are > about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college > student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does > anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that > contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low > price. > > Thanks a lot > JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU > > ###### From: Bob Stevens Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:28:37 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 64 Message-ID: <34F31151.9D7538D0@mindspring.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> Reply-To: pawnbroker@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip101.santa-ana2-6.ca.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:25:05 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!newsfeed.wli.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.69.200.121!news.mindspring.com!usenet Hi gang, The protocols for remote viewing are quite extensive. The intention being to keep your conscious mind in the here and now and place your unconscious in the ether. When you OOB your conscious mind is asleep and your unconscious is in the ether. The difference is that when remote viewing you can consciously control where your unconscious goes and what information it receives. You now have a real time awareness and a question and response dialog with your unconscious that is not possible when OOB'ing because your rational/analytical/logical mind is asleep. Anyone can remote view, few can do it with accuracy. The protocols are designed to extract exact information of the target viewed. Imagine viewing Disneyland through the eyes of a 2 year old. Look at the Monorail. You and I know that it is a glorified subway. But a child sees it as a moving thing in the air, it makes a rumbling noise as it passes by, it's shiny, bright, kinda round shaped, carrying people, it's manmade vs natural and contrasts. A 2 year old doesn't know a wheel from a track from a passenger car. This is what it is like to remote view. You take in basic shapes, sounds, textures, daytime, nighttime, dark, light and try not to analyze any of it. Your conscious mind wants to compare the input with known values and match them up for a result. This is the hardest thing to unlearn. You need to separate your viewing from the compare and file section of your conscious and let your viewing stand on its own merit. Like a child learning and exploring, touching, hearing, seeing. To your unconscious the Monorail looks no different than a submarine or a blimp. Most of the time when remote viewing you have a person monitoring you telling you where to look, etc.. Kinda guiding, leading, querying, extracting information for later analysis. This is necessary because you are in an altered state and may become fixated in space/time. Your monitor is the rational/analytical part of the process. Many times in a session you receive perceptions that logically make no logical or relational sense whatsoever. Yet later you find out just how perfect they do fit together. The target comes to you in a gestalt. A download of information that you spend the next four hours describing. Similar to a picture is worth a thousand words. Viewpoint is another funny perception. You could describe the Monorail from the viewpoint of a mouse (in which case it's HUGE), beside it, or 5000 feet in the air in which case you may describe it as a toy train. Hope this answers some questions. Bob ###### From: Bob Stevens Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:00:50 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 33 Message-ID: <34F318DB.6B2B2212@mindspring.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> Reply-To: pawnbroker@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip101.santa-ana2-6.ca.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:57:10 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com!cs.utexas.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet Hi again, A good way to practice RV'ing is to have a friend go to a sight that is unknown to the rv'ers and act as a beacon. Jotting down his location, views, smells, observations, sounds, buildings, etc.. The rv'ers relax into a alpha-theta state and concentrate on the person who is the beacon. If relaxed properly you should receive a gestalt of information as a flash. Don't try to analyze it just let it flow, describe what you have seen not what you THINK you see. Your first impression will always be the most correct. We have done this at coordinated times across the country, in many cases we were able to RV the site where he was going to be several days before they arrived. It's a spooky feeling to open an envelope containing a rv'ing session that you did a week ago and find that you describe a location that a person was standing in an hour ago without any foreknowledge of where they were going. Another good practice is to have a friend hide something and write the location and description on a piece of paper in an envelope. RV the item and it's location without the help of your friend. When stumped or completed have your friend give you feedback. Pictures in envelopes with a set of random numbers on the outside as a reference is a good target. National Geographic, Sunset are good sources, just make sure you don't have a picture on both sides if you cut it out of a magazine. I had a friend place objects in a cardboard box, in my house that I RV'ed for practice. No touching, no peeking. Namaste, Bob ###### From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:45:51 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 38 Message-ID: <34f2dc9b.18940611@news.nashville.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 17015@207.65.180.91 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.onenet.net!news.oru.edu!fci-se!fci!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that there IS no technique. You just do it. I saw a special on it on A&E a few weeks ago and I've read a considerable amount about the CIA program. All of the remote viewers trained by the military say they simply went into a room, concentrated on the assigned location and free associated, writing and sketching any words, images, feelings they received when they opened their minds. They also had about a 33% accuracy rate, according to the special. That seems to be it. Oh, and the special did say some people where more talented at it - artists, writers, etc. Creative people with above average intelligence. Maybe that's all there is to it. Alexa >I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still >remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral >projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to >remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have >info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell >you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? >There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to >astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for >weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are >about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college >student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does >anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that >contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low >price. > >Thanks a lot >JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU > ###### From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:47:44 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 33 Message-ID: <34f2dd4f.19120710@news.nashville.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 17015@207.65.180.91 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news.clark.net!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.26.210.166!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail Here's a thought! If you're really interested, we could set up an experiment right here on this newsgroup. One person could pick the sites, we could set up a time, everyone who wants to participate could try to remote view at a designated time and then report their results back to the person who knows where to site was via e-mail. Then he/she could post the results. Anyone interested? Alexa On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:25:45 -0500, Joe Saad wrote: >I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still >remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral >projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to >remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have >info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell >you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? >There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to >astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for >weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are >about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college >student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does >anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that >contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low >price. > >Thanks a lot >JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU > ###### Message-ID: <34F244C3.6632F289@nowhere.com> From: Out Reply-To: no@nowhere.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-bls40 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> <34f2dd4f.19120710@news.nashville.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:56:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-32-100-126-154.nc.us.ibm.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:56:44 EST Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!News1.NetUSA.Net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.atl.bellsouth.net!news1.atl.bellsouth.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Would love to try. Alexa James wrote: > Here's a thought! If you're really interested, we could set up an > experiment right here on this newsgroup. One person could pick the > sites, we could set up a time, everyone who wants to participate could > try to remote view at a designated time and then report their results > back to the person who knows where to site was via e-mail. Then > he/she could post the results. > > Anyone interested? > > Alexa > > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:25:45 -0500, Joe Saad > wrote: > > >I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still > >remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral > >projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to > >remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have > >info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell > >you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? > >There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to > >astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for > >weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are > >about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college > >student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does > >anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that > >contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low > >price. > > > >Thanks a lot > >JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU > > ###### From: alexa.james@nashville.com (Alexa James) Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:30:48 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 45 Message-ID: <34f311aa.5627890@news.nashville.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> <34f2dd4f.19120710@news.nashville.com> <6ctcmd$50a@nntp02.primenet.com> Reply-To: alexa.james@nashville.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 27124@207.65.139.41 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail Yeah, it could be anywhere as long as it's distinct enough for you to recognize it and that you either have a photograph or regular access to it so you could compare people's impressions with the reality. Alexa > >>Here's a thought! If you're really interested, we could set up an >>experiment right here on this newsgroup. One person could pick the >>sites, we could set up a time, everyone who wants to participate could >>try to remote view at a designated time and then report their results >>back to the person who knows where to site was via e-mail. Then >>he/she could post the results. > >>Anyone interested? > >I'm intrested!!! I'd pick a site.....couldn't it just be something >easy like my bathroom or school? > >>On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:25:45 -0500, Joe Saad >>wrote: > >>>I heard about remote viewing ... you can go anywhere you want but still >>>remain in your body. This sounds safer and more accurate than astral >>>projection. But unlike astral projection, there is NO info on how to >>>remote view on the i-net. The very few sites on the i-net that have >>>info on remote viewing only describe it haphazardly, they do not tell >>>you how to perform it. Why is this, IS IT DANGEROUS? Or Top Secret? >>>There are many free step by step i-net pages on the i-net on how to >>>astrally project but none on how to remote view. After searching for >>>weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are >>>about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college >>>student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does >>>anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that >>>contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low >>>price. >>> >>>Thanks a lot >>>JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU >>> > > > ###### From: Bob Stevens Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:57:50 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 70 Message-ID: <34F469A1.1CC8DDCB@mindspring.com> References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> <34F31151.9D7538D0@mindspring.com> <01bd41a1$51f82940$2c4e1ed1@logmein.flash.net> <34F39FA3.D458E1F7@mindspring.com> <01bd41c2$17bd8880$c84e1ed1@logmein.flash.net> Reply-To: pawnbroker@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip95.santa-ana2-6.ca.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:54:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!News1.NetUSA.Net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet Learning remote viewing is no different than any other discipline. Practice, practice practice. I was trained by a gentleman who RV'd for a government agency other than the military. We use the protocols just as they came from the military (Ingo Swann). I would consider myself a solid intermediate student of RVing and have been doing this for about eight months. In the beginning it's a lot of time consuming work for very little reward. I did sessions that lasted for over 6 hours with uncanny success. I've done sessions for just as long with horrible results. It's a lot of work. It's not unusual to go through 200-300 sheets of paper for 1 viewer for 1 session. In the beginning it took me 5, 10 hour days before I had a home run target. The first 3 days were training, preparation and practice targets, last two were culmination of all of the protocols on monitored targets. I am to a stage where I can do a session in a couple of hours by myself. It's funny that I can RV by myself but I feel much more secure using a monitor. Here are a some of the training protocols; 1) Reaching a specific altered state and knowing you are there. 2) Creating a dialog with your unconscious. I have a dictionary of over 500 words that is used to communicate directly with my unconscious. 3) Accessing the target. 4) Using your dialog to describe the target. Then defining these further. 5) You then view all of the sensory details visual, kinesthetic, oral factory, auditory etc.. 6) You view the emotional state of the target, surroundings, people, intent, happy, sad etc.. You continue to access the target again and again each time receiving a little more information (flash). This is similar to viewing a drive-in movie from two miles away and then driving closer and closer. The closer you get the more detail you can pick up. This continues to the point of where you can create a 3 dimensional model of the site out of clay if you wish. Not until the end of the session do you finally take all of this information and combine it, and analyze it to form a conclusion. It's important to keep in mind that the military protocols create a very exacting, precise and structured environment in which to extract as much information and detail as possible. You can access a target, get impressions and return in no time at all with great success and pick up information just not a lot of specific detail. I don't recall which famous RV'er did a session describing this giant crystalline thing shining brightly in the sunlight, gold toned, etc.. In great detail. It was thought that it was a complete miss of the the victorian home which was the target. As it was the viewer was describing the crystal doorknob on the front door, exactly, drawings and all. The week before the super bowl I was in my dads office and he showed me some type of pool for the game with all kinds of ways to bet. I'm not a sports fan, didn't know who was playing let alone care. I quickly viewed the outcome of the game and who was going to win. In less than 5 sec. I received a flash of of a uniform with a lot of bright red/orange color on it. It for sure wasn't Green Bay, the favorites. The Broncos have a little red in the mane of the horse, but I saw much more than that. I caught the last 30 seconds of the game walking into a friends house and without looking at the tv asked if the team who was winning had this red/orange color on their uniform. To my total amazement the Broncos had this special uniform with a big bright red/orange stripe down both side of the jersey and pants. My dad had won. Namaste, Bob ###### Message-ID: <34F5264A.167E@bmis.com.au> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:22:34 +0800 From: Keith Alderslade Organization: Business Management Information Systems (BMIS) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; AIX 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body Subject: Re: Astral projection V.S. Remote Viewing References: <34F1DB49.8A09FE5B@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.135.120.34 Lines: 24 Path: ccw.ch!aetna.dolphins.ch!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!202.135.120.34 Joe Saad wrote: > > I heard about remote viewing ... > After searching for > weeks, the only thing I can find on learning how to remote view are > about 3 or 4 kits that cost hundreds of dollars!!!! Being a college > student, I cannot afford this. Can someone please help me .... does > anyone know the steps to remote viewing or know of i-net sites that > contain instructions on how to remotely view for free or for a low > price. > > Thanks a lot > JSAAD@POP3.UTOLEDO.EDU Hi all, I'm a newbie on this group. There are 2 great books on RV which include methods & instruction; 1. Mind Trek by Joeseph McMoneagle (good to purchase throug TMI) 2. Your Nostradamus Factor by Ingo Swann Keith