From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 102 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:49:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.155.143.210 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny01 1095738549 141.155.143.210 (Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:49:09 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:49:09 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny01.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19507 hi everyone (those of you i know and those i don't yet), i haven't read or posted in a while but i just wanted to say hello and tell about an interesting experience i had giving reiki to someone. nothing too exciting, but i was fascinated by it and wanted to share. it could easily feed into the thoughts that some people have about reiki being from somewhere other than divine places or it being dangerous, but in no way do i mean to support that idea. i still think thats silliness. here is my story. a few weeks ago (in my apartment which is a studio) i gave about and hour and a half reiki session to a guy i know from the health food store. it felt pretty powerful and while i had my hands positioned at his head i felt a release happen, he twitched and i saw a grayish shadowy something flutter away from the right side of his head. i was fascinated because that never happened before but i didn't think too much of it at the time. the whole session was pretty powerful, i was fully present and he seemed to really receive the energy and appreciate it. he was very relaxed afterward and i felt pretty energized. i gave him a ride home, had something to eat and then went to bed because it was already late. that night i had the strangest dreams ever and one involved some wierd kind of overnight session with spiritualists and energy workers (about 5 guys in their 20s and 30s) in my apartment. while they were there these little demons rose up out of my floor and grabbed onto my legs and dragged me into another dimension so that i thought i was still in my apartment but the others who were in my apartment with me could not see me and were calling out to me wondering what happened to me. there was this thin veil or cloud separating us, and nothing looked like it was really solid. i was yelling "i'm right here!!! here i am! help!" and then i was saying to the demons "you have no power over me, this is not real, you have no power!!!" Only one guy (who was supposed to be of some latin background and was some experienced spiritualist) knew i was still there and told me to believe what i was saying and to pray to god. i started to seriously and frantically yell out "jesus help me, god help me!!!" (which i have probably never done in my waking life) and the demons finally released their grip on me. i was still feeling alot of fear though. then i woke up and was so out of sorts and at first my apartment looked hazy and i wasn't sure if i had woken from the dream. i was so frightened i actually called my boyfriend at 4:00am(who had to work the next day and who was concerned about his brother so probably shouldn't be recieving a startling phone call at that time). i immediately thought about the gray shadow i saw while doing the reiki session and wondered if it was related. i told my boyfriend, "i feel like a crazy person to suggest it, but i wonder if what i thought was just blocked energy releasing was really some kind of entity?" he was like "well anything is possible." i decided that i must have alot of unspoken fears lately and they just came out in this nightmare and i decided not to concern myself with thoughts of "entities" floating around my apartment (though i did open the windows wide to let them out just in case!) i felt better after i spoke with my boyfriend, i just needed to ground myself in reality, and then within a few minutes i fell back to sleep and slept beautifully for the rest of the night. i even had other dreams, but none were nightmares. the following day i went into the healthfood store and on a whim thinking perhaps i connected with his demons, i asked the kid i gave the session to "how did you sleep last night?" he was like "great!" so then i told him about my dream. he was quiet but then he says "that's interesting because i play alot of fantasy games and paint these little figurines from them. the games have demons. lately i have been playing the games alot and for the past two weeks or so thoughts of them have been going all around in my head." that floored me, because the fact is that while i have had nightmares--dreams i recognize as dreams but can't wake from, or people chasing me and i can't run fast enough--i have never in my life dreamt of demons and i have never, since i was a child, had a nightmare that rattled me so much. the conclusion i drew was that i did tune into something with this kid and somehow it intermingled with my own fears and anxieties and came out as this wacko nightmare. i still don't know whether or not that shadow was related, and i guess i don't care too much whether or not it could be some kind of "entity" because i don't truly believe anything like that could have power over me. i am just fascinated by the whole thing, and to tell you the truth i am taking this as a sign that my intuition is becoming more heightened and that i just need to learn how to interpret signals better and recognize what is mine and what is not. just a few days ago i gave a session to another woman, who also works at the healthfood store, and that night i had a dreams that actually involved her and in it she spoke to me about her boyfriend who as a former addict has found new purpose to his life (i dont know anything about him in real life--this was dream talk) and that he found a malachite stone--which in my waking life i don't even know anything about either, but i do have a gem book so i looked it up. it turns out malachite is a good stone for dream work, but also according to this book by "melody"(yeah one name) it is a "stone of transformation," assisting one in changing situations, and providing for the transfer of sacred information leading to spiritual evolution. i would say that both this woman and myself are going through personal transformations in our lives, and in essence they are likely spiritual evolutions. the stone has other qualities which apply to me--it's a balancing agent (i could use that!) among other things. it also vibrates to the number 9, which in numerology is my number and which i was told is related to being humanitarian and also related to forgiveness of self and others. when i go to the store tomorrow i will tell this woman about my dream because perhaps it will have some significance to her as well. but long story even longer--this dream made me feel more confident about my original theory that my intuition is awakening more and i just need to make sure i look at things through the proper lens so that my intuition will serve me well instead of frighten me. if anyone stayed with my story i would be interested in other's ideas about my experiences conveyed, or similar expereinces. -ginger ###### From: "b0b" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:01:22 +0200 Lines: 144 Message-ID: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> References: X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de gt37+YkWVHtprh7cUsT2CQZeVQKregDp65r714WHjDDbxJpAWL X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19509 One thing I have found, is you need to be sure and sever the connection you form with another during a Reiki Session, or Attunement. I have experienced the reverse of your situation, where my thoughts were being picked up by the client later as a nightmare, or dream. Be sure to positively "End" the session with your full intention to sever the spiritual connection to the other being. b0b "gingerobyn" wrote in message news:VwN3d.1137$Pz3.488@trndny01... > hi everyone (those of you i know and those i don't yet), > i haven't read or posted in a while but i just wanted to say hello and tell > about an interesting experience i had giving reiki to someone. nothing too > exciting, but i was fascinated by it and wanted to share. it could easily > feed into the thoughts that some people have about reiki being from > somewhere other than divine places or it being dangerous, but in no way do i > mean to support that idea. i still think thats silliness. > > here is my story. a few weeks ago (in my apartment which is a studio) i gave > about and hour and a half reiki session to a guy i know from the health food > store. it felt pretty powerful and while i had my hands positioned at his > head i felt a release happen, he twitched and i saw a grayish shadowy > something flutter away from the right side of his head. i was fascinated > because that never happened before but i didn't think too much of it at the > time. the whole session was pretty powerful, i was fully present and he > seemed to really receive the energy and appreciate it. he was very relaxed > afterward and i felt pretty energized. i gave him a ride home, had something > to eat and then went to bed because it was already late. > > that night i had the strangest dreams ever and one involved some wierd kind > of overnight session with spiritualists and energy workers (about 5 guys in > their 20s and 30s) in my apartment. while they were there these little > demons rose up out of my floor and grabbed onto my legs and dragged me into > another dimension so that i thought i was still in my apartment but the > others who were in my apartment with me could not see me and were calling > out to me wondering what happened to me. there was this thin veil or cloud > separating us, and nothing looked like it was really solid. i was yelling > "i'm right here!!! here i am! help!" and then i was saying to the demons > "you have no power over me, this is not real, you have no power!!!" Only one > guy (who was supposed to be of some latin background and was some > experienced spiritualist) knew i was still there and told me to believe what > i was saying and to pray to god. i started to seriously and frantically yell > out "jesus help me, god help me!!!" (which i have probably never done in my > waking life) and the demons finally released their grip on me. i was still > feeling alot of fear though. then i woke up and was so out of sorts and at > first my apartment looked hazy and i wasn't sure if i had woken from the > dream. i was so frightened i actually called my boyfriend at 4:00am(who had > to work the next day and who was concerned about his brother so probably > shouldn't be recieving a startling phone call at that time). i immediately > thought about the gray shadow i saw while doing the reiki session and > wondered if it was related. i told my boyfriend, "i feel like a crazy person > to suggest it, but i wonder if what i thought was just blocked energy > releasing was really some kind of entity?" he was like "well anything is > possible." i decided that i must have alot of unspoken fears lately and > they just came out in this nightmare and i decided not to concern myself > with thoughts of "entities" floating around my apartment (though i did open > the windows wide to let them out just in case!) i felt better after i spoke > with my boyfriend, i just needed to ground myself in reality, and then > within a few minutes i fell back to sleep and slept beautifully for the rest > of the night. i even had other dreams, but none were nightmares. > > the following day i went into the healthfood store and on a whim thinking > perhaps i connected with his demons, i asked the kid i gave the session to > "how did you sleep last night?" he was like "great!" so then i told him > about my dream. he was quiet but then he says "that's interesting because i > play alot of fantasy games and paint these little figurines from them. the > games have demons. lately i have been playing the games alot and for the > past two weeks or so thoughts of them have been going all around in my > head." > > that floored me, because the fact is that while i have had > nightmares--dreams i recognize as dreams but can't wake from, or people > chasing me and i can't run fast enough--i have never in my life dreamt of > demons and i have never, since i was a child, had a nightmare that rattled > me so much. the conclusion i drew was that i did tune into something with > this kid and somehow it intermingled with my own fears and anxieties and > came out as this wacko nightmare. i still don't know whether or not that > shadow was related, and i guess i don't care too much whether or not it > could be some kind of "entity" because i don't truly believe anything like > that could have power over me. i am just fascinated by the whole thing, and > to tell you the truth i am taking this as a sign that my intuition is > becoming more heightened and that i just need to learn how to interpret > signals better and recognize what is mine and what is not. > > just a few days ago i gave a session to another woman, who also works at the > healthfood store, and that night i had a dreams that actually involved her > and in it she spoke to me about her boyfriend who as a former addict has > found new purpose to his life (i dont know anything about him in real > life--this was dream talk) and that he found a malachite stone--which in my > waking life i don't even know anything about either, but i do have a gem > book so i looked it up. it turns out malachite is a good stone for dream > work, but also according to this book by "melody"(yeah one name) it is a > "stone of transformation," assisting one in changing situations, and > providing for the transfer of sacred information leading to spiritual > evolution. i would say that both this woman and myself are going through > personal transformations in our lives, and in essence they are likely > spiritual evolutions. the stone has other qualities which apply to me--it's > a balancing agent (i could use that!) among other things. it also vibrates > to the number 9, which in numerology is my number and which i was told is > related to being humanitarian and also related to forgiveness of self and > others. when i go to the store tomorrow i will tell this woman about my > dream because perhaps it will have some significance to her as well. but > long story even longer--this dream made me feel more confident about my > original theory that my intuition is awakening more and i just need to make > sure i look at things through the proper lens so that my intuition will > serve me well instead of frighten me. > > if anyone stayed with my story i would be interested in other's ideas about > my experiences conveyed, or similar expereinces. > -ginger > > ###### Reply-To: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" From: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:36:23 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Lines: 188 Message-ID: <414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: M1392P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at X-Trace: 1095755175 newsreader02.highway.telekom.at 21374 80.121.45.228 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!216.196.110.149.MISMATCH!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.cambrium.nl!news.cambrium.nl!newsfeed.utanet.at!newsfeed01.highway.telekom.at!newsreader02.highway.telekom.at!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19510 I agree with that one needs to cut the cords with clients and students. I always cut the energetic connections established during the healing session, and cut the cords established with students as soon as they feel confident with the energies. I learned to do that after some nasty experiences with continued energy zapping/vampirism by clients, and students who make themelves too dependent on the attuning master, even up to the point in mistaking the established energy connection with love. Love and Blessings, Elisabeth -- http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html "b0b" wrote in message news:2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de... > One thing I have found, is you need to be sure > and sever the connection you form with another > during a Reiki Session, or Attunement. I have > experienced the reverse of your situation, where > my thoughts were being picked up by the client > later as a nightmare, or dream. > > Be sure to positively "End" the session with your > full intention to sever the spiritual connection to the > other being. > > b0b > > "gingerobyn" wrote in message > news:VwN3d.1137$Pz3.488@trndny01... > > hi everyone (those of you i know and those i don't yet), > > i haven't read or posted in a while but i just wanted to say hello and > tell > > about an interesting experience i had giving reiki to someone. nothing too > > exciting, but i was fascinated by it and wanted to share. it could easily > > feed into the thoughts that some people have about reiki being from > > somewhere other than divine places or it being dangerous, but in no way do > i > > mean to support that idea. i still think thats silliness. > > > > here is my story. a few weeks ago (in my apartment which is a studio) i > gave > > about and hour and a half reiki session to a guy i know from the health > food > > store. it felt pretty powerful and while i had my hands positioned at his > > head i felt a release happen, he twitched and i saw a grayish shadowy > > something flutter away from the right side of his head. i was fascinated > > because that never happened before but i didn't think too much of it at > the > > time. the whole session was pretty powerful, i was fully present and he > > seemed to really receive the energy and appreciate it. he was very relaxed > > afterward and i felt pretty energized. i gave him a ride home, had > something > > to eat and then went to bed because it was already late. > > > > that night i had the strangest dreams ever and one involved some wierd > kind > > of overnight session with spiritualists and energy workers (about 5 guys > in > > their 20s and 30s) in my apartment. while they were there these little > > demons rose up out of my floor and grabbed onto my legs and dragged me > into > > another dimension so that i thought i was still in my apartment but the > > others who were in my apartment with me could not see me and were calling > > out to me wondering what happened to me. there was this thin veil or cloud > > separating us, and nothing looked like it was really solid. i was yelling > > "i'm right here!!! here i am! help!" and then i was saying to the demons > > "you have no power over me, this is not real, you have no power!!!" Only > one > > guy (who was supposed to be of some latin background and was some > > experienced spiritualist) knew i was still there and told me to believe > what > > i was saying and to pray to god. i started to seriously and frantically > yell > > out "jesus help me, god help me!!!" (which i have probably never done in > my > > waking life) and the demons finally released their grip on me. i was still > > feeling alot of fear though. then i woke up and was so out of sorts and at > > first my apartment looked hazy and i wasn't sure if i had woken from the > > dream. i was so frightened i actually called my boyfriend at 4:00am(who > had > > to work the next day and who was concerned about his brother so probably > > shouldn't be recieving a startling phone call at that time). i immediately > > thought about the gray shadow i saw while doing the reiki session and > > wondered if it was related. i told my boyfriend, "i feel like a crazy > person > > to suggest it, but i wonder if what i thought was just blocked energy > > releasing was really some kind of entity?" he was like "well anything is > > possible." i decided that i must have alot of unspoken fears lately and > > they just came out in this nightmare and i decided not to concern myself > > with thoughts of "entities" floating around my apartment (though i did > open > > the windows wide to let them out just in case!) i felt better after i > spoke > > with my boyfriend, i just needed to ground myself in reality, and then > > within a few minutes i fell back to sleep and slept beautifully for the > rest > > of the night. i even had other dreams, but none were nightmares. > > > > the following day i went into the healthfood store and on a whim thinking > > perhaps i connected with his demons, i asked the kid i gave the session to > > "how did you sleep last night?" he was like "great!" so then i told him > > about my dream. he was quiet but then he says "that's interesting because > i > > play alot of fantasy games and paint these little figurines from them. the > > games have demons. lately i have been playing the games alot and for the > > past two weeks or so thoughts of them have been going all around in my > > head." > > > > that floored me, because the fact is that while i have had > > nightmares--dreams i recognize as dreams but can't wake from, or people > > chasing me and i can't run fast enough--i have never in my life dreamt of > > demons and i have never, since i was a child, had a nightmare that rattled > > me so much. the conclusion i drew was that i did tune into something with > > this kid and somehow it intermingled with my own fears and anxieties and > > came out as this wacko nightmare. i still don't know whether or not that > > shadow was related, and i guess i don't care too much whether or not it > > could be some kind of "entity" because i don't truly believe anything like > > that could have power over me. i am just fascinated by the whole thing, > and > > to tell you the truth i am taking this as a sign that my intuition is > > becoming more heightened and that i just need to learn how to interpret > > signals better and recognize what is mine and what is not. > > > > just a few days ago i gave a session to another woman, who also works at > the > > healthfood store, and that night i had a dreams that actually involved her > > and in it she spoke to me about her boyfriend who as a former addict has > > found new purpose to his life (i dont know anything about him in real > > life--this was dream talk) and that he found a malachite stone--which in > my > > waking life i don't even know anything about either, but i do have a gem > > book so i looked it up. it turns out malachite is a good stone for dream > > work, but also according to this book by "melody"(yeah one name) it is a > > "stone of transformation," assisting one in changing situations, and > > providing for the transfer of sacred information leading to spiritual > > evolution. i would say that both this woman and myself are going through > > personal transformations in our lives, and in essence they are likely > > spiritual evolutions. the stone has other qualities which apply to > me--it's > > a balancing agent (i could use that!) among other things. it also vibrates > > to the number 9, which in numerology is my number and which i was told is > > related to being humanitarian and also related to forgiveness of self and > > others. when i go to the store tomorrow i will tell this woman about my > > dream because perhaps it will have some significance to her as well. but > > long story even longer--this dream made me feel more confident about my > > original theory that my intuition is awakening more and i just need to > make > > sure i look at things through the proper lens so that my intuition will > > serve me well instead of frighten me. > > > > if anyone stayed with my story i would be interested in other's ideas > about > > my experiences conveyed, or similar expereinces. > > -ginger > > > > > > ###### Reply-To: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" From: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:42:58 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Lines: 150 Message-ID: <414fe732$0$24248$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: M1392P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at X-Trace: 1095755570 newsreader02.highway.telekom.at 24248 80.121.45.228 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed01.highway.telekom.at!newsreader02.highway.telekom.at!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19511 Well, you may have had your first elemental or entity release session. Before you start doing energy work you might want to make it a point to protect yourself, and continue so during and after the session. Also, take a shower after the session, or a full bath with salted water, cleaning your chakras and your aura. Hatsu-Reihu also helps. Immediately before or after the session, rinse your hands with cool flowing water on the tab. I learned about the necessity of exercising strict energy hygiene and protection techniques the hard way, too. Love and Blessings, Elisabeth -- http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html "gingerobyn" wrote in message news:VwN3d.1137$Pz3.488@trndny01... > hi everyone (those of you i know and those i don't yet), > i haven't read or posted in a while but i just wanted to say hello and tell > about an interesting experience i had giving reiki to someone. nothing too > exciting, but i was fascinated by it and wanted to share. it could easily > feed into the thoughts that some people have about reiki being from > somewhere other than divine places or it being dangerous, but in no way do i > mean to support that idea. i still think thats silliness. > > here is my story. a few weeks ago (in my apartment which is a studio) i gave > about and hour and a half reiki session to a guy i know from the health food > store. it felt pretty powerful and while i had my hands positioned at his > head i felt a release happen, he twitched and i saw a grayish shadowy > something flutter away from the right side of his head. i was fascinated > because that never happened before but i didn't think too much of it at the > time. the whole session was pretty powerful, i was fully present and he > seemed to really receive the energy and appreciate it. he was very relaxed > afterward and i felt pretty energized. i gave him a ride home, had something > to eat and then went to bed because it was already late. > > that night i had the strangest dreams ever and one involved some wierd kind > of overnight session with spiritualists and energy workers (about 5 guys in > their 20s and 30s) in my apartment. while they were there these little > demons rose up out of my floor and grabbed onto my legs and dragged me into > another dimension so that i thought i was still in my apartment but the > others who were in my apartment with me could not see me and were calling > out to me wondering what happened to me. there was this thin veil or cloud > separating us, and nothing looked like it was really solid. i was yelling > "i'm right here!!! here i am! help!" and then i was saying to the demons > "you have no power over me, this is not real, you have no power!!!" Only one > guy (who was supposed to be of some latin background and was some > experienced spiritualist) knew i was still there and told me to believe what > i was saying and to pray to god. i started to seriously and frantically yell > out "jesus help me, god help me!!!" (which i have probably never done in my > waking life) and the demons finally released their grip on me. i was still > feeling alot of fear though. then i woke up and was so out of sorts and at > first my apartment looked hazy and i wasn't sure if i had woken from the > dream. i was so frightened i actually called my boyfriend at 4:00am(who had > to work the next day and who was concerned about his brother so probably > shouldn't be recieving a startling phone call at that time). i immediately > thought about the gray shadow i saw while doing the reiki session and > wondered if it was related. i told my boyfriend, "i feel like a crazy person > to suggest it, but i wonder if what i thought was just blocked energy > releasing was really some kind of entity?" he was like "well anything is > possible." i decided that i must have alot of unspoken fears lately and > they just came out in this nightmare and i decided not to concern myself > with thoughts of "entities" floating around my apartment (though i did open > the windows wide to let them out just in case!) i felt better after i spoke > with my boyfriend, i just needed to ground myself in reality, and then > within a few minutes i fell back to sleep and slept beautifully for the rest > of the night. i even had other dreams, but none were nightmares. > > the following day i went into the healthfood store and on a whim thinking > perhaps i connected with his demons, i asked the kid i gave the session to > "how did you sleep last night?" he was like "great!" so then i told him > about my dream. he was quiet but then he says "that's interesting because i > play alot of fantasy games and paint these little figurines from them. the > games have demons. lately i have been playing the games alot and for the > past two weeks or so thoughts of them have been going all around in my > head." > > that floored me, because the fact is that while i have had > nightmares--dreams i recognize as dreams but can't wake from, or people > chasing me and i can't run fast enough--i have never in my life dreamt of > demons and i have never, since i was a child, had a nightmare that rattled > me so much. the conclusion i drew was that i did tune into something with > this kid and somehow it intermingled with my own fears and anxieties and > came out as this wacko nightmare. i still don't know whether or not that > shadow was related, and i guess i don't care too much whether or not it > could be some kind of "entity" because i don't truly believe anything like > that could have power over me. i am just fascinated by the whole thing, and > to tell you the truth i am taking this as a sign that my intuition is > becoming more heightened and that i just need to learn how to interpret > signals better and recognize what is mine and what is not. > > just a few days ago i gave a session to another woman, who also works at the > healthfood store, and that night i had a dreams that actually involved her > and in it she spoke to me about her boyfriend who as a former addict has > found new purpose to his life (i dont know anything about him in real > life--this was dream talk) and that he found a malachite stone--which in my > waking life i don't even know anything about either, but i do have a gem > book so i looked it up. it turns out malachite is a good stone for dream > work, but also according to this book by "melody"(yeah one name) it is a > "stone of transformation," assisting one in changing situations, and > providing for the transfer of sacred information leading to spiritual > evolution. i would say that both this woman and myself are going through > personal transformations in our lives, and in essence they are likely > spiritual evolutions. the stone has other qualities which apply to me--it's > a balancing agent (i could use that!) among other things. it also vibrates > to the number 9, which in numerology is my number and which i was told is > related to being humanitarian and also related to forgiveness of self and > others. when i go to the store tomorrow i will tell this woman about my > dream because perhaps it will have some significance to her as well. but > long story even longer--this dream made me feel more confident about my > original theory that my intuition is awakening more and i just need to make > sure i look at things through the proper lens so that my intuition will > serve me well instead of frighten me. > > if anyone stayed with my story i would be interested in other's ideas about > my experiences conveyed, or similar expereinces. > -ginger > > ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:51:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.180.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny06 1095825100 162.83.180.201 (Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:51:40 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:51:40 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny06.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19533 thanks for the advice. i always end it with the intention of surrounding the person in a protective bubble of light or something like that so that they are not vulnerable but i don't think about myself at the end of the session, only that i wash my hands with the intention of washing away what i don't need. "b0b" wrote in message news:2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de... > One thing I have found, is you need to be sure > and sever the connection you form with another > during a Reiki Session, or Attunement. I have > experienced the reverse of your situation, where > my thoughts were being picked up by the client > later as a nightmare, or dream. > > Be sure to positively "End" the session with your > full intention to sever the spiritual connection to the > other being. > > b0b ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <414fe732$0$24248$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 39 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:57:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.180.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny09 1095825452 162.83.180.201 (Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:57:32 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:57:32 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny09.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19534 "Well, you may have had your first elemental or entity release session". yeah, i thought so too. thanks for the advice. i am going to have to go over the reiki terms and stuff that everyone talks about, because i dont know what hatsu-reihu is. i tend to just go with what feels right and i'm not exactly a "studious" or very disciplined reiki student. i do usually make sure to shower afterward but this time did not. i also thought to smudge with sage afterward, but for some reason decided not to (probably laziness). now that i have had that experience i have a better understanding of why these things are necessary, i guess i never really believed it to be before. "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" wrote in message news:414fe732$0$24248$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at... > > Before you start doing energy work you might want to make it a point to > protect yourself, and continue so during and after the session. Also, take > a shower after the session, or a full bath with salted water, cleaning your > chakras and your aura. Hatsu-Reihu also helps. Immediately before or after > the session, rinse your hands with cool flowing water on the tab. > I learned about the necessity of exercising strict energy hygiene and > protection techniques the hard way, too. > > Love and Blessings, > Elisabeth > -- > http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html > http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html > > > > > ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> <414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 23 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: <6M64d.1063$sa.718@trndny05> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:58:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.180.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny05 1095825538 162.83.180.201 (Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:58:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:58:58 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny05.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19535 "I agree with that one needs to cut the cords with clients and students." do you have a particular method/process you use to do that? "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" wrote in message news:414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at... > I > always cut the energetic connections established during the healing session, > and cut the cords established with students as soon as they feel confident > with the energies. I learned to do that after some nasty experiences with > continued energy zapping/vampirism by clients, and students who make > themelves too dependent on the attuning master, even up to the point in > mistaking the established energy connection with love. > > Love and Blessings, > Elisabeth > -- > http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html > http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html > ###### From: gdwill@earthlink.net (Garry Williams) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:15:24 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <41515015.1608080@news.Individual.NET> References: <414fe732$0$24248$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> Reply-To: gdwill@earthlink.net X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de IsUZxhr7GuKWTTZ3SerdhAuiv6wXayG0Binh0Nk7s6fglCbRCa X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19538 On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:57:32 GMT, "gingerobyn" wrote: >thanks for the advice. i am going to have to go over the reiki terms and >stuff that everyone talks about, because i dont know what hatsu-reihu is. i >tend to just go with what feels right and i'm not exactly a "studious" or >very disciplined reiki student. It's hatsurei ho. Try the following sites: http://angelreiki.nu/ryoho/okuden.html http://www.geocities.com/fascin8or/d_hatsurei_ho.html ###### Reply-To: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" From: "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> <414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <6M64d.1063$sa.718@trndny05> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:41:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <4151c50b$0$15264$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: M1390P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at X-Trace: 1095877903 newsreader02.highway.telekom.at 15264 80.121.45.185 Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed01.highway.telekom.at!newsreader02.highway.telekom.at!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19539 Yes, I do. I imagine the client or other person with whom I want to cut cords, s/he is sitting about 10 feet or 3 meters away from me on a wooden chair. I envelop both her/him and me with white-golden healing energies for our highest good, and then see the strings connecting us. Sometimes they are thin threads for a thin and slow energy flow, but more often they are thick ropes and other sort of energy exchange or attachment connections. Also, the colour of this cords (or else) changes depending on the type of connection and type of energy that is flowing in them. Now I imagine a pair of scissors, a knive, or a sword in my right hand and I cut the cords. Once they are cut they often try to connect again, and I repeat the process till I just see a short stump or remains of the cords on both the person and me. I ask the Divine that except for unconditional love there will be no more cords or attachments between us now and in the future, and that the past wounds be healed. I repeat the process every day till I feel relieved and happy, and every day it will be easier to cut the energetic cords. In the rare case that my efforts are not enough to cut a thick carmic (or other) rope, I ask Archangel Michael for help, he usually is successful cutting this cords. Namaste, Elisabeth -- http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html "gingerobyn" wrote in message news:6M64d.1063$sa.718@trndny05... > "I agree with that one needs to cut the cords with clients and students." > > do you have a particular method/process you use to do that? > > "Elisabeth Frauendorfer" wrote in message > news:414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at... > > I > > always cut the energetic connections established during the healing > session, > > and cut the cords established with students as soon as they feel confident > > with the energies. I learned to do that after some nasty experiences with > > continued energy zapping/vampirism by clients, and students who make > > themelves too dependent on the attuning master, even up to the point in > > mistaking the established energy connection with love. > > > > Love and Blessings, > > Elisabeth > > -- > > http://www.magnussa.com/mprue.html > > http://www.magnussa.com/institute.html > > > > ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <2ra5eqF175i6jU1@uni-berlin.de> <414fe5a6$0$21374$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <6M64d.1063$sa.718@trndny05> <4151c50b$0$15264$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:37:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.132.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny03 1095997047 162.83.132.53 (Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:37:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:37:27 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny03.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19547 thanks elizabeth. i am not one who visualizes well, i tend to be more kinesthetic than visual, but perhaps with practice some similar to that might help me. i think it's something i need to do related to other areas of my life. thanks. ginger ###### From: "gingerobyn" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <414fe732$0$24248$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <41515015.1608080@news.Individual.NET> Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:38:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.132.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trndny08 1095997103 162.83.132.53 (Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:38:23 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:38:23 EDT Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny08.POSTED!f3340854!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19548 thanks garry, and hello! hope you are well! "Garry Williams" wrote in message news:41515015.1608080@news.Individual.NET... > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:57:32 GMT, "gingerobyn" > wrote: > > >thanks for the advice. i am going to have to go over the reiki terms and > >stuff that everyone talks about, because i dont know what hatsu-reihu is. i > >tend to just go with what feels right and i'm not exactly a "studious" or > >very disciplined reiki student. > > It's hatsurei ho. Try the following sites: > > http://angelreiki.nu/ryoho/okuden.html > > http://www.geocities.com/fascin8or/d_hatsurei_ho.html ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: hi there! wanted to share an interesting reiki session experience Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:33:02 +0200 Lines: 118 Message-ID: <2s2qp0F1hcrqfU1@uni-berlin.de> References: Reply-To: byjokeATch.interDOTnet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de rCn7owRB/nAZJZlCETL4hg2FkqzRUlo7ly9S7lVNLeNUxM42tRTK5h User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:19634 what did you eat? do you any still any left = where I can buy? :-) yes when minds opens strange things happens.. but it does not always work as we wish .. I had wonderful and crazy dreams too last week and the moon was waxing :-) gingerobyn wrote: > hi everyone (those of you i know and those i don't yet), > i haven't read or posted in a while but i just wanted to say hello and tell > about an interesting experience i had giving reiki to someone. nothing too > exciting, but i was fascinated by it and wanted to share. it could easily > feed into the thoughts that some people have about reiki being from > somewhere other than divine places or it being dangerous, but in no way do i > mean to support that idea. i still think thats silliness. > here is my story. a few weeks ago (in my apartment which is a > studio) i gave > about and hour and a half reiki session to a guy i know from the health food > store. it felt pretty powerful and while i had my hands positioned at his > head i felt a release happen, he twitched and i saw a grayish shadowy > something flutter away from the right side of his head. i was fascinated > because that never happened before but i didn't think too much of it at the > time. the whole session was pretty powerful, i was fully present and he > seemed to really receive the energy and appreciate it. he was very relaxed > afterward and i felt pretty energized. i gave him a ride home, had something > to eat and then went to bed because it was already late. > that night i had the strangest dreams ever and one involved some > wierd kind > of overnight session with spiritualists and energy workers (about 5 guys in > their 20s and 30s) in my apartment. while they were there these little > demons rose up out of my floor and grabbed onto my legs and dragged me into > another dimension so that i thought i was still in my apartment but the > others who were in my apartment with me could not see me and were calling > out to me wondering what happened to me. there was this thin veil or cloud > separating us, and nothing looked like it was really solid. i was yelling > "i'm right here!!! here i am! help!" and then i was saying to the demons > "you have no power over me, this is not real, you have no power!!!" Only one > guy (who was supposed to be of some latin background and was some > experienced spiritualist) knew i was still there and told me to believe what > i was saying and to pray to god. i started to seriously and frantically yell > out "jesus help me, god help me!!!" (which i have probably never done in my > waking life) and the demons finally released their grip on me. i was still > feeling alot of fear though. then i woke up and was so out of sorts and at > first my apartment looked hazy and i wasn't sure if i had woken from the > dream. i was so frightened i actually called my boyfriend at 4:00am(who had > to work the next day and who was concerned about his brother so probably > shouldn't be recieving a startling phone call at that time). i immediately > thought about the gray shadow i saw while doing the reiki session and > wondered if it was related. i told my boyfriend, "i feel like a crazy person > to suggest it, but i wonder if what i thought was just blocked energy > releasing was really some kind of entity?" he was like "well anything is > possible." i decided that i must have alot of unspoken fears lately and > they just came out in this nightmare and i decided not to concern myself > with thoughts of "entities" floating around my apartment (though i did open > the windows wide to let them out just in case!) i felt better after i spoke > with my boyfriend, i just needed to ground myself in reality, and then > within a few minutes i fell back to sleep and slept beautifully for the rest > of the night. i even had other dreams, but none were nightmares. > the following day i went into the healthfood store and on a whim > thinking > perhaps i connected with his demons, i asked the kid i gave the session to > "how did you sleep last night?" he was like "great!" so then i told him > about my dream. he was quiet but then he says "that's interesting because i > play alot of fantasy games and paint these little figurines from them. the > games have demons. lately i have been playing the games alot and for the > past two weeks or so thoughts of them have been going all around in my > head." > that floored me, because the fact is that while i have had > nightmares--dreams i recognize as dreams but can't wake from, or people > chasing me and i can't run fast enough--i have never in my life dreamt of > demons and i have never, since i was a child, had a nightmare that rattled > me so much. the conclusion i drew was that i did tune into something with > this kid and somehow it intermingled with my own fears and anxieties and > came out as this wacko nightmare. i still don't know whether or not that > shadow was related, and i guess i don't care too much whether or not it > could be some kind of "entity" because i don't truly believe anything like > that could have power over me. i am just fascinated by the whole thing, and > to tell you the truth i am taking this as a sign that my intuition is > becoming more heightened and that i just need to learn how to interpret > signals better and recognize what is mine and what is not. > just a few days ago i gave a session to another woman, who also > works at the > healthfood store, and that night i had a dreams that actually involved her > and in it she spoke to me about her boyfriend who as a former addict has > found new purpose to his life (i dont know anything about him in real > life--this was dream talk) and that he found a malachite stone--which in my > waking life i don't even know anything about either, but i do have a gem > book so i looked it up. it turns out malachite is a good stone for dream > work, but also according to this book by "melody"(yeah one name) it is a > "stone of transformation," assisting one in changing situations, and > providing for the transfer of sacred information leading to spiritual > evolution. i would say that both this woman and myself are going through > personal transformations in our lives, and in essence they are likely > spiritual evolutions. the stone has other qualities which apply to me--it's > a balancing agent (i could use that!) among other things. it also vibrates > to the number 9, which in numerology is my number and which i was told is > related to being humanitarian and also related to forgiveness of self and > others. when i go to the store tomorrow i will tell this woman about my > dream because perhaps it will have some significance to her as well. but > long story even longer--this dream made me feel more confident about my > original theory that my intuition is awakening more and i just need to make > sure i look at things through the proper lens so that my intuition will > serve me well instead of frighten me. > if anyone stayed with my story i would be interested in other's > ideas about > my experiences conveyed, or similar expereinces. > -ginger > -- Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : Theo@ch.inter.net «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«»