Message-ID: <4113DD01.EBBBE6FD@mn.rr.com> From: Alex Barna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Seeing: was Re: Yellow Bamboo References: <410b7742$0$21526$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410cbcf2$0$18250$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410e8722$0$21046$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410E9C46.9D483EB4@mn.rr.com> <410ea68d$0$16034$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at> <410ED5DA.98EEB684@mn.rr.com> <1091804551.6349.0@despina.uk.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 96 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 19:27:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.30.225.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.rdc-kc.rr.com 1091820435 65.30.225.94 (Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:27:15 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:27:15 CDT Organization: RoadRunner Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!news.glorb.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18556 Phasedreality wrote: > > Alex Wrote - > > > Actually how colors & intensity of light are seen is normally totally > > dependent on the electrochemical action of the rods & cones in the > > back of the eye & how that information is processed by the vision area > > of the brain. That area of my brain processes information that in most > > people doesn't get processed. I've had brain CT scans that show extra > > activity in that area of my brain. All that proved was that I'm not > > totally nuts. ^_^ > Hi Alex! > > Do you think that what you see is an additional frequency picked up by your > eyes and processed by your visual cortex? As I've said before I can't say for sure what it is I'm *seeing* or how I see it. I was tested 1984 because I made the mistake of telling a supervisor at the company I worked for that I could see the stress lines in the part I was machining. We make weapons for the navy & the navy demanded I be tested. The tests were done at the University of Minnesota hospital & the doctors had fun playing with their new brain imaging equipment while they 'tortured' me by having me describe what I saw while the blasted me with every type of energy the physics lab could generate. I got some nasty burns on my face & eyes. Their conclusion was that my visual cortex was processing information on something that was either above or below the spectrum they could generate at that time & that the information appeared to be coming from the rods & cones in my eyes. They chemically blinded me (that hurt like hell) by putting chemicals in my eyes & injecting chemicals in the optic nerve. http://www.bartleby.com/107/illus722.html Like I said all it proved was that I wasn't imagineing what I saw & that I wasn't totally insane , though they couldn't conclude what I saw or how I was seeing it. > Certainly from my experience of > seeing UE I think that it is more likely to be information gained by the 3rd > eye which is then passed onto the visual cortex and processed along with the > other visual information. If there was an organ or area of the brain that worked as a third eye those doctors would have found it, but they didn't. > The reason I would say this is because I find it > much more noticeable when I am in low light conditions, If you get the chance go into a cave or mine where there is total darkness. The vision is overwhelming. > or if my eyes are > not functioning 100%. However, I am open to ideas on this as you seem to > have done much more research (I nearly went down the CT scan route before I > worked out what it was, but trying to convince doctors in the UK that there > was something 'wrong' was proving far too difficult!) I wouldn't recommend it. Especially not at a research hospital where they like to experiment & stay away from the military. > Incidentally since, we last spoke, I have been working on my UE-sight and > have really begun to develop my ability to pick up the ebb and flow of it. > Trees are especially interesting to watch as they seem to 'suck-up' huge > amounts of energy and hold it in clouds around the leaves ready to be > processed. I *see* living trees more as generating energy than 'sucking it up'. Different points of view I guess. Cut wood does 'suck-up' energy (draw energy to it). > I am also getting much better at seeing the interaction of UE > with the aura and can now pick out the flows of most peoples chakras as long > as they are fairly active... I do *see* different energy areas in people & animals though I didn't think of the energy transfer points as chakras until recently. > Love & Sunshine > > Dan. GramPaHugs, Alex, -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * AOL Click * AOL Click **************************************************** ###### From: "Phasedreality" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <410b7742$0$21526$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410cbcf2$0$18250$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410e8722$0$21046$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410E9C46.9D483EB4@mn.rr.com> <410ea68d$0$16034$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at> <410ED5DA.98EEB684@mn.rr.com> <1091804551.6349.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <4113DD01.EBBBE6FD@mn.rr.com> Subject: Re: Seeing Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 14:04:05 +0100 Lines: 50 Organization: Phasedreality X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Complaints-To: abuse@clara.net (please include full headers) X-Trace: 48a06263df00f9085821b7209626e081daa090070e606023563490894114d341 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 14:04:01 +0100 Message-ID: <1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!skynet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!feeder.enertel.nl!nntpfeed-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net!216.196.110.149.MISMATCH!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!iris.uk.clara.net Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18569 Alex Barna wrote >If there was an organ or area of the brain that worked as a third eye those >doctors would have found it, but they didn't. Hmmm I don't think of the 3rd eye as an 'organ' in the physical sense, although I know some people believe it to be situated in the pineal gland. I feel that it is more an energetic organ that exists within the aura, and merely has a linkage into the brain somewhere in the middle of the brow. It's interesting that they found that your rod's and cone's were being triggered though.... >If you get the chance go into a cave or mine where there is total darkness. The >vision is overwhelming. I can imagine! I find that certain spaces not only have very strong visual EU fields but also make my brain fizz a little. It's an odd experience and feels a bit like someone is giving me mild electric shocks.... > I wouldn't recommend [testing]. Especially not at a research hospital where they like > to experiment & stay away from the military. Oh my gosh! That sounds absolutely horrific... I knew that they do some pretty awful things to people in the name of science but I didn't realise they would go that far. > I *see* living trees more as generating energy than 'sucking it up'. Different > points of view I guess. Cut wood does 'suck-up' energy (draw energy to it). Yes, I guess you could be right. I just assumed as the clouds were being drawn in rather than produced.... > I do *see* different energy areas in people & animals though I didn't think of > the energy transfer points as chakras until recently. As I develop my sense I am trying hard not to get too sucked into trying to 'see' things just because I have read about them. It's very easy to look at a few diagrams and then make the patterns in the UE fit that model because I expect it to..... Love & Light Dan. ###### From: Theo Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Seeing Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:15:04 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <410b7742$0$21526$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410cbcf2$0$18250$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410e8722$0$21046$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410E9C46.9D483EB4@mn.rr.com> <410ea68d$0$16034$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at> <410ED5DA.98EEB684@mn.rr.com> <1091804551.6349.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <4113DD01.EBBBE6FD@mn.rr.com> <1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net> Reply-To: byjoke@ch.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.eusc.inter.net 1091906097 15883 212.59.168.49 (7 Aug 2004 19:14:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@eusc.inter.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, it In-Reply-To: <1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!feed.news.tiscali.de!eusc.inter.net!news.eusc.inter.net!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18581 Phasedreality wrote: > Alex Barna wrote > >>If there was an organ or area of the brain that worked as a third eye those >>doctors would have found it, but they didn't. if you think as en eye like teh pair we have yes we have not iguanas have a third eye in tehir forehead.. we have the pineal gland. that is called third eye and is supposed not to see materialisti things but spiritial intuitions so no retinian nerves nor Iris or crystalline parts needed ! > Hmmm I don't think of the 3rd eye as an 'organ' in the physical > sense, good intuition > although I know some people believe it to be situated in the pineal gland. it is supposed localized to be there but not to BE IT ! I know that when I do meditation it is one polace amoing otehrs where to focus but I relaised my arms work for intuition better than my pineal gland:-) I > feel that it is more an energetic organ that exists within the aura, and > merely has a linkage into the brain somewhere in the middle of the brow. > It's interesting that they found that your rod's and cone's were being > triggered though.... when a radio emist waves.. in the radio it is a device made of transsitors or diods or whatever mecanical parts and what makes that words spoken in the set will become waves and travel and are receptioned wireless thousands of miles away .. or just 2 meters away maybe our whole body is an antenna.. and yet again we look for a special part that has that function we imagine it would has we say HEART is for love but when we suffer love pains we suffer with our body and mind and spirit .. > As I develop my sense I am trying hard not to get too sucked into trying to > 'see' things just because I have read about them. It's very easy to look at > a few diagrams and then make the patterns in the UE fit that model because I > expect it to..... you are moulding into another model .. Theo_694@hotmail.com MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : Theo@ch.inter.net «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» ###### From: "Phasedreality" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <410b7742$0$21526$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410cbcf2$0$18250$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410e8722$0$21046$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410E9C46.9D483EB4@mn.rr.com> <410ea68d$0$16034$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at> <410ED5DA.98EEB684@mn.rr.com> <1091804551.6349.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <4113DD01.EBBBE6FD@mn.rr.com> <1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net> Subject: Re: Seeing Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:28:17 +0100 Lines: 54 Organization: Phasedreality X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Complaints-To: abuse@clara.net (please include full headers) X-Trace: f9b420d57668642062d949f9e2aa245399081808c671610c1681dc4b4117de59 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: <1092083289.19404.0@ersa.uk.clara.net> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.zanker.org!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!ersa.uk.clara.net Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18663 Hi Theo! > if you think as en eye like the pair we have yes we have not iguanas > have a third eye in their forehead.. > we have the pineal gland. that is called third eye and is supposed not > to see materialistic things but spiritual intuitions so no retinal > nerves nor Iris or crystalline parts needed ! Yes, I know that a lot of people believe that the 3rd eye is the pineal gland. Certainly in terms of shamanic experience, the pineal gland is a key point for unlocking the human potential. > it is supposed localized to be there but not to BE IT ! > I know that when I do meditation it is one place among others > where to focus > but I realised my arms work for intuition better than my pineal gland:-) Heh, indeed...you can't pick up a cup of tea with your pineal gland either! > when a radio emits waves.. in the radio it is a device made of > transistors or diodes or whatever mechanical parts and what makes that > words spoken in the set will become waves and travel and are > receptioned wireless thousands of miles away .. or just 2 meters away > maybe our whole body is an antenna.. and yet again we look for a > special part that has that function we imagine it would has > we say HEART is for love but when we suffer love pains we suffer > with our body and mind and spirit .. Yes, I agree with you about the human antenna thing. I have always believed that part of the spiritual journey is about learning how to 'tune in' to the higher energies / frequencies - Some people like to spin the dial and see what comes up, others carefully plod through the stations one by one, some just find the easy listening station they like and stick with that, while others just turn the thing off and read the paper instead!!! I guess if we all listened to the same music life would be pretty boring... As for the heart, well I don't know. I certainly feel my heart center light up when I am with people I love. Maybe that is just social conditioning that gives me the association between emotions and the heart, but then as I strongly believe in the chakra system I would say that it goes a bit deeper than that... > you are moulding into another model .. Hehe... yes, that is true... sometimes it's hard to not think, I guess that's something which I must learn... Thanks for the input! Love & Light.. Dan. ###### From: baliansakti2004@yahoo.com (balian sakti) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Seeing Date: 9 Aug 2004 21:59:44 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <410b7742$0$21526$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410cbcf2$0$18250$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410e8722$0$21046$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at> <410E9C46.9D483EB4@mn.rr.com> <410ea68d$0$16034$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at> <410ED5DA.98EEB684@mn.rr.com> <1091804551.6349.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <4113DD01.EBBBE6FD@mn.rr.com> <1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.54.194.195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1092113984 29746 127.0.0.1 (10 Aug 2004 04:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!proxad.net!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18671 "Phasedreality" wrote in message news:<1091883841.73440.0@iris.uk.clara.net>... > Alex Barna wrote > > >If there was an organ or area of the brain that worked as a third eye those > >doctors would have found it, but they didn't. > > Hmmm I don't think of the 3rd eye as an 'organ' in the physical sense, > although I know some people believe it to be situated in the pineal gland. I > feel that it is more an energetic organ that exists within the aura, and > merely has a linkage into the brain somewhere in the middle of the brow. In my level 3 training of yellow bamboo we focused on what were called "telepathy" or seeing at a distance training. There were 3 different exercises at level 3- you start in a totally dark room in the sitted position. YOu imagine your right eye is the moon and move it to your forehead in between your brows. The left eye is the sun and you move it to the middle of your forehead. YOu tilt your pelvis forward like your tailbone is plugging into your genetals like plugging in a plug into the electric. This energy travels up the spine into the place between your eyebrows and turns on a light- like a car light- and your looking through a tunnell. you can look into the future, the distance, into someones heart and mind etc. the second telepathy exercise is like above but you see a person you want to convince and use the telepathy to get them to do what you want. Balian Sakti