Lines: 55 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: seichim@aol.comnospam (Patrick Zeigler) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Date: 27 Jul 2004 12:08:25 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Not Feeling much during an attunement Message-ID: <20040727080825.00667.00000412@mb-m03.aol.com> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!209.11.36.156.MISMATCH!nntp-server.pubsub.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18202 The no bells and whistles during an attunement is something that has been discussed often on this newsgroup. Early on, doing standard "Reiki type attunements" I found that there was a percentage that had a very deep reaction and a percentage that seem to have very little reaction. For me my Reiki attunements were not as great as my personal meditation experiences, that is when I began to look at alternative attunement methods. What I have found is that through the years, is that those people who were more emotionally expressive or just more emotionally open would have a much stronger attunement experience. I also noticed that those with a very strong mental disposition, the results were almost non existent. Early on I fell into the mental category. It was not until I participated in a Native American Sweat lodge that I began to make a strong connection to how the emotions help open a person up and feel, also at this time I also took some courses in Alchemical Hypnotherapy. During that time I did quite a bit of inner emotional work and found that by going inward and moving out of the head and into the heart, my spiritual experiences increased. What was happening was, that by doing emotional clearing, many old wounds and mental blocks were removed. I found if I was given an attunement at this time the results were more consonantly profound and the energy would have a deeper healing effect. After many years of developing this method I have included emotional clearing as part of my class and the results have been magnificent, almost everyone comes away from the class feeling a strong connection to the energy and many have the most powerful spiritual experience of their life, my class is mostly Reiki Masters. What I found was happening was people were having what I call a true "Initiation", meaning that they now could feel a strong connection to source. Initiations are in some ways like an orgasm when you have one you know it. Each person has their own experience with an Initiation, for some it is quite gentle yet profound , while for others they scream uncontrollably when the energy comes in. The main thing about an Initiation is when you have one, there is no question in your mind that you had one, it will be one of most beautiful experiences of your life. All Love, Patrick ___________________ SKHM Classes July 10-11 Cornwall, UK 17 -18 Glasgow, scotland August 14 and 15 Las vegas 21-22 Toronto September 2-3 Seattle October 22-23 Malaga, 30-31 Lisbon Our New CD is Ready www.SKHM.org ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:22 +0100 (BST) Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <20040727080825.00667.00000412@mb-m03.aol.com> Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de /W4GnbBzgpH2NRrZRfINAAwKtaxOuVebvf991/QvgM+Y8s5AQ= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18203 Hello again, Patrick .. :) My personal experience was one of no flashing lights nor visionary experiences, but just a deep "knowing" that something was right and that I had changed .. Stuart (Patrick Zeigler) wrote: > The main thing about an > Initiation is when you have one, there is no question in your mind > that you had one, it will be one of most beautiful experiences of > your life. ###### Lines: 29 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: seichim@aol.comnospam (Patrick Zeigler) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Date: 27 Jul 2004 13:10:55 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Message-ID: <20040727091055.00667.00000413@mb-m03.aol.com> Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!209.11.36.156.MISMATCH!nntp-server.pubsub.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18204 <> Yes, Stuart...not to put you in a category, but I do believe you would agree with me if we put you into the Highly mental category. More mental types will have the experience you describe, while more emotional types will have a deep Body experience. Emotional visionary types usually get the flashing Lights. There are some methods that anyone can use to give themselves a broader experience. For example really heady people can move into the heart more. The same could probably be said for totally heart centered people to move into their head more as well, then they may experience more of the knowing you speak of. I have found that very strong mental dispositions are the most difficult to open up to an Initiation, but when the do, it is like a huge dam has cracked open. All Love Patrick ###### From: "Mr. Random" <--- Don't Follow Me, I'm Lost Too... ---> Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: <20040727091055.00667.00000413@mb-m03.aol.com> Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:37:51 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.50.44.169 Message-ID: <41066868_1@news.iprimus.com.au> Organization: iPrimus Customer - reports relating to abuse should be sent to abuse@iprimus.com.au X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.134.67.67 X-Trace: 1090931022 un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au 3596 203.134.67.67:2407 X-Complaints-To: Abuse, including message IDs to abuse@pipenetworks.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.bri.connect.com.au!figjam.pipenetworks.com!token.pipenetworks.com!218.100.2.58.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18208 Yes, after reading some of Stuarts reply's/posts, I too would put him in the 'highly mental'* category (jk) ;-P Love, Hugs, and Reiki Shane-o =] p.s. - I really *do* like your posts Stu * highly mental: crazy, silly, etc. ( for those who don't understand/get humour :) ) ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:51 +0100 (BST) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <20040727091055.00667.00000413@mb-m03.aol.com> Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de u/5zKRG70JPVN+2TlAAiGQHsV7D+Q/bFUQNqo7v8bGoJsYhx4= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18209 (Patrick Zeigler) wrote: > Yes, Stuart...not to put you in a category, but I do believe you > would agree with me if we put you into the Highly mental category. That's a fair assessment, Patrick ... notwithstanding Shaun's cracks .. ;) Although I find it very easy to empathise with others .. Stuart ###### From: stuv@cix.co.uk (Stuart Vernon) Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:21 +0100 (BST) Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: stuv@cix.co.uk X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de JbJys82g7lhrguZS3VqRdQBmFxT8xG0zqdak7QlBXHoOUp9hQ= X-News-Software: Ameol2 X-URL: http://www.ameol.com Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.imp.ch!news.imp.ch!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18211 (Stuart Vernon) wrote: > Shaun Shane ... sorry mate ... :) Stuart ###### From: "Judith Vaughan" Newsgroups: alt.healing.reiki References: Subject: Re: Not Feeling much during an attunement Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:50:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.3.72.132 X-Complaints-To: abuse@virgin.net X-Trace: newsfe1-gui.ntli.net 1091033448 82.3.72.132 (Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:50:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:50:48 GMT Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service Path: nightfall.franklin.ch!pfaff2.ethz.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!switch.ch!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!newsfeed.freenet.de!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!proxad.net!proxad.net!62.253.162.219.MISMATCH!news-out.ntli.net!newsrout1.ntli.net!news-in.ntli.net!ntli.net!newspeer1-win.ntli.net!newsfe1-gui.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: nightfall.franklin.ch alt.healing.reiki:18220 I must be a real emotional type, then ! Well, I know I am. During my Reiki 2 attunement I felt myself being spiralled up from my head and I nearly passed out. It was fantastic! And it was only about 11am and I hadn't touched a drop! Love, Jude